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More proof on how Apple is neglecting iPhone 4 users.

nuckinfutz said:
The how does does one that holds this position of planned obsolescence reconcile the fact that the 3GS will run iOS 6.0?

By the time iOS 6.0 is deliver the 3GS will be approaching 3.5 years of use. If Apple didn't care about prolonging the life of your phone the 3GS would not have made cut.

The argument given is without merit or even plausibility.
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They release the OS with some features missing and then continually release updates to apps, or entire apps, where only some of the features are supported on older devices, even though they're perfectly capable.

They've done a double whammy with Siri, by releasing it for only the latest tablet and phone even though the others are capable. I bought my iPad 2 six months ago for £500 while it was still the newest iPad and it's already getting half assed updates.
 
kicko said:
I agree, no reason why the 4 cannot support this feature.
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More to the point, do you or anyone else in this thread see a reason why Apple would arbitrarily limit this specific feature to the 4S?

The whole "planned obsolescence" argument seems a little silly considering this feature actually encourages people to spend more money. :)
 
BaldiMac said:
More to the point, do you or anyone else in this thread see a reason why Apple would arbitrarily limit this specific feature to the 4S?
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It's always possible that the programmer made a mistake and wrongly listed it as only being compatible with the 4S.

The whole "planned obsolescence" argument seems a little silly considering this feature actually encourages people to spend more money. :)
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So does encouraging peope to buy a newer phone :)
 
kdarling said:
So does encouraging peope to buy a newer phone :)
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I think it's pretty unlikely that there will be anyone that upgrades from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 4S because they can't check in on their way to pick up something from the Apple Store. :D
 
matttye said:
This feature is one of many that is arbitrarily limited to the newest iPhone.
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The problem is motive. The ability to serve customer more quickly via advanced warning that they are coming to the store to pick up their purchase benefits both Apple and the consumer alike.

What motive would Apple have to arbitrarily limit this feature to the iPhone 4s?
 
nuckinfutz said:
The problem is motive. The ability to serve customer more quickly via advanced warning that they are coming to the store to pick up their purchase benefits both Apple and the consumer alike.

What motive would Apple have to arbitrarily limit this feature to the iPhone 4s?
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Could be a conspiracy.

They slowly but surely phase out older devices and make them less attractive by releasing apps and updates that are stunted for all but the newest device.

If you have the latest device, not only do you have more features but you also get served more quickly in store.

Yeah yeah I know, tin foil hat :p
 
itsmemuffins said:
It's not fragmentation it's segmentation. Learn the difference ;)
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Ok, but aside from being nerdier, why do I need to learn a difference?
It still sucks, especially when you get an update for an app that renders it non-functional.

In any case, this is the way things have always been and will likely be for a long time. Technology advances, and older stuff gets left behind. It is unlikely there is some sinister plot behind it.
 
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BFizzzle said:
its prolly due to the 4s having the improved more accurate GPS...

would be a waste of company time for employees to be alerted when customers are not really there, or bad for customers to be there and employees not being alerted
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This. It probably has to do with geofencing or something.
 
As others have said, it's a 2 year old device. I still love my iPhone 4 and have done since June 2010. I don't think this will be the feature that sends me to the apple store to buy the 4s.
The fact that we still get free software upgrades at all I think is pretty good. Yes apple could probably have 95% of the 4s features enabled on the 4, but I guess I'll just have to settle for 92%!
Try getting that from Android.
 
Well this is not a secret that Apple tries to motivate us to have the newest hardware all the time. But this little tiny feature is not a major one and it is really strange iPhone 4 doesn't have it as well.
 
The OP should stop bitching and make sure he has the lastest and greatest Apple products. That's what Apple wants ... So do it .... Do it now!!!
 
aristobrat said:
The net result of not having this feature on the iPhone 4 is that it makes picking up items at local Apple Store more inconvenient for millions of potential shoppers, which means potential lost sales.

Do you really think they'd lose sales just to piss the iPhone 4 owners off?!
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Oh lawdy, how would I ever shop now! God forbid Apple Store would not know of my soon to be triumphant arrival :rolleyes:
 
I am actually quite shocked at how many people are arguing that these limitations are not "arbitrary". I challenge all of these people to show an ounce of proof that any of the features limited from the 4 (but we can just speak of this pickup feature since that is what the thread is about) are hardware related. Maps? Nope... we already have a dev that hacked that onto the iPhone 4 some 2 days after iOS6 beta launched. Now this? What about this feature screams hardware limitation to any of you? :confused:
 
Actually the burden of proof lies with the people that believe Apple is intentionally crippling older phones since they are arguing from the negative.

Conventional wisdom would seem to point towards Apple allowing this feature on all phones because it benefits them to know when someone is due to arrive.
 
Wait until they start screwing iPhone 4S and iPad 3 users. Apple can talk a big game about Android fragmentation but Apple is just as worst; selective feature upgrades.
 
nuckinfutz said:
Actually the burden of proof lies with the people that believe Apple is intentionally crippling older phones since they are arguing from the negative.

Conventional wisdom would seem to point towards Apple allowing this feature on all phones because it benefits them to know when someone is due to arrive.
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Well, I certainly presented that there are devs getting features (mapping) limited to the 4S (and higher, presumably) onto the iPhone 4 without issues. Siri on a 4 works as well as it does on a 4S so long as you fool Apple's servers into thinking it is running on a 4S. How about facetime over 3G being limited to the 4S? That has been on the 4, again via a third party, since 2010! What more evidence need be presented? If THAT isn't enough for you people, surely nothing will be outside of a written confession from Tim Cook himself.

It's a little sad that there are consumers out there that are willing to take everything Apple says as the absolute truth. "Prove Apple wrong, until then I will believe everything they say without fuss." That's cool, I guess. Glad I don't think like that though.
 
cdmoore74 said:
Wait until they start screwing iPhone 4S and iPad 3 users. Apple can talk a big game about Android fragmentation but Apple is just as worst; selective feature upgrades.
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Selective feature upgrades, but they still get upgrades. The same can not be said about Android or Windows phones...not that it should matter anyway.

People should buy technology based on how it works and suits them at the time of purchase, not how they assume it'll be upgraded or work in years to come.

Basically, if you want your phone to work as well as the latest and greatest, buy the latest and greatest.
 
cdmoore74 said:
Wait until they start screwing iPhone 4S and iPad 3 users. Apple can talk a big game about Android fragmentation but Apple is just as worst; selective feature upgrades.
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Fragmentation typically refers to OS or screen sizes. It typically does not missing hardware functionality for if that was the case I could say that any platform is fragmented because some phones have a 3 megapixel camera versus 5 and 8.
 
petrucci666 said:
"wahh my previous generation device isn't getting next generation featres"
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You want to try your luck with android instead?

Most iphone 4 devices would have been purchased on contract, which is coming up for renewal/new handset.

bothering to support it with iOS upgrades at all is more than you get out of HTC, Samsung, etc after 2 + years. Hell, you're lucky if you get updates after 6-12 months on the other side of the fence.
 
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