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Sorry, I was talking about those of us who don't like to break the warranty. ;):D

A jailbroken iPhone doesn't break the warranty... An UNLOCKED iPhone is a different story...
I can restore my phone to the original settings and nobody will ever know it was jailbroken. :cool:
 
Sorry, I was talking about those of us who don't like to break the warranty. ;):D

BTW... I've been thinking different since 1987 and since System 4, then went thru hell with System 7, relaxed a little with 8, loved 9 and adore X... The iPhone could have been much better... Do some research on Apple's Newton and eMate and u will understand. :apple:

Cheers

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Or the calendar button is to pull email from server if you don't want auto update for you exchange items. That is my logical guess, but we will see.

EDIT: If probably becomes available if there is mail on the server and then you can take action to download. Combination of what previous poster said and my thoughts.

Or.. here's hoping that its a way to differentiate calendars.

Exchange is going to bring in synced calendars, contacts, and e-mails. Tell me if there are more people like me out there: I have my personal e-mails, contacts, etc. already syncing. I welcome the exchange syncing for my work stuff, but when it does, I want to keep my personal stuff separate from my work exchange stuff. Is there any detail as to if that's possible and if so how that is accomplished?
 
BTW... I've been thinking different since 1987 and since System 4, then went thru hell with System 7, relaxed a little with 8, loved 9 and adore X... The iPhone could have been much better... Do some research on Apple's Newton and eMate and u will understand. :apple:

Cheers

P

Ok, well I did read Infinite Loop and understand what you went through. Also, the Newton wasn't, in my opinion as good as the iPhone will be in June.
 
A jailbroken iPhone doesn't break the warranty... An UNLOCKED iPhone is a different story...
I can restore my phone to the original settings and nobody will ever know it was jailbroken. :cool:

Jailbreaking voids the warranty. It's in the terms. By removing that restriction, you are modifying the software. But yes, you can restore it and no one will know...until you break your dock port. oops!

If you think about what you said, doesn't that mean you can restore unlocks and no one will know? =/ I have no idea how that works since I have AT&T.
 
The calculator looks awesome! I've been saying from day one that the calculator should work that way: Tilt sideways for scientific/RPN. Oh please let it have an option for RPN!!! That bass-ackwards calculator drives me nuts! (an admittedly short trip)

tys
 
Jailbreaking voids the warranty. It's in the terms. By removing that restriction, you are modifying the software. But yes, you can restore it and no one will know...until you break your dock port. oops!

If you think about what you said, doesn't that mean you can restore unlocks and no one will know? =/ I have no idea how that works since I have AT&T.

I haven't jailbroken or unlocked either, but from what I've read, unlocking messes with the phone's modem firmware which isn't restorable via a standard itunes restore.
 
the calculator is nice, but aren't the period and @ symbol new on the main keyboard page? http://www.engadget.com/photos/iphone-firmware-2-0-hands-on/705043/

and i know they implemented the space bar so it would act like a blackberry but still this seemingly minor addition is really nice to have

If your righting an email adress, it will be there.

I can't believe that people are raving about crappy features like these to the phone's OS... 4 years ago Sony's P-800, P-900 or Nokia 7710 were doing what version 2.0 is going to do and so much more. Nothing worth wowing over... Although the iphone is faster, easier and nicer looking, it still can't touch the hundreds of useful features that were present years ago...
I've been missing Flash, Picture dialing, video recording with audio, camera zoom and auto-focus, icon re-arranging, themes, photo cropping and resize, seamless bluetooth syncing and file transfer, Bluetooth Modem, outgoing and incoming call logs and a REAL internet browser without limitations...
I love the iPhone. Actually I love my 1.1.4 Jailbroken iPhone with SummerBoard and Customize, and hundreds of themes, apps and sounds to make it my own, the way it should have been from the top.
Un-broken iPhones can't compare. I thank the hackers, developers and programmers that made the iPhone a useful, fun, amazing phone... And all for FREE!
Instead of giving us a stupid new calculator, let the developers go wild, give them the freedom to do amazing things worth of Apple's trajectory...
I am, so far, very disappointed. :mad:

Some of those things i agree with. Video recording i would love, camera zoom is the same as a pinch zoom so that doesnt realy matter, auto focus is not somrthing most phones have. Bluetooth i really wish it had full blown. As for the real internet browser, show me 3 other phones whos web browser is better than the iphones. Apple is letting the developers go wild. You go wild and make your own apps. Inside, apple is tweaking the calculator, among other things. BTW


Did anyone else notice the 2nd botton on the calculator. That means 2x more functions!!
 
I refuse to give Apple a pass on this one. It's just dumb.

I've been sending them feedback on the regular. How can they promise "desktop-class" and then leave out a third of the application's window and half of its functionality? Aaaargghh!
My 3-year old Palm z22 performed better overall with iCal than my iPhone. doesn't make sense... *sigh*
 
Don't you think the bazillion or so apps coming in June and thereafter is going to address this? Face it everyone. The iphone was named incorrectly....on purpose to fool the market I think. It is a mobile mac. You don't like the program that apple wrote? Then use another.

iCal is a program Apple wrote, and it doesn't seem illogical to think that it should pair with calendar program that they wrote for the phone. I (and I think others) would just like the programs they wrote to be consistent, especially if the iPhone is a "mobile mac." Then it should be truly seamless.
 
Why is the focus on upgrading the CALCULATOR when the iPhone is so miserably lacking CUT&PASTE and SEARCHABLE CONTACTS???!!!

IS THIS A JOKE??

Like I commented elsewhere: What makes you think that NOT improving the calculator would bring us those benefits you wish for? Or: what makes you think that improving the calculator is preventing Apple from adding searchable contacts (and how useful is that REALLY?) and C&P?

The iPhone has been sold as a "SmartPhone" and it is still years behind other phones that already have these functions.

And it's years ahead in some other areas.

Gaming and Video should come LATER!!

So, you believe that the OpenGL-gurus at Apple should NOT be working on enabling gaming on the iPhone, but rather, they should be using their knowledge of OpenGL to bring us searchable contacts and cut&paste?

Um, OK....

Has it ever occurred to you that Apple has more then one engineer working on the software? That improving the calculator or OpenGL does not necessarily take out resources from some other areas of improvement? That the engineers who know OpenGL and video might not be the ideal engineers to work on Cut & paste? That they can improve several things at once? What should those OpenGL-engineers do while some other engineers work on other features (like C&P)? twiddle their thumbs because they should only work on one feature at a time, and no new features should be added until iPhone gets Copy & Paste?
 
the calculator is nice, but aren't the period and @ symbol new on the main keyboard page? http://www.engadget.com/photos/iphone-firmware-2-0-hands-on/705043/

That's what the keyboard looks right now when you are entering an email-address in email. So there is no change. The numbers-button looks slightly different though (current button has no underscore in it)

and i know they implemented the space bar so it would act like a blackberry

They did that a while ago.
 
What should those OpenGL-engineers do while some other engineers work on other features (like C&P)? twiddle their thumbs because they should only work on one feature at a time, and no new features should be added until iPhone gets Copy & Paste?

That's a very good point and to a certain extent counters my rant earlier on in the thread.

There is a common theme here in a lot of the complaints (some are just from iWhiners, of which I'd say I am not one) and that theme is there's a little frustration building about the lack of some very simple things that would really speed up the workflow when using the iPhone that on the face of it don't look too hard to implement.

Things like C&P are actually not that easy to implement within the touch user interface currently on the iPhone. Other things, however, look to be simple to do (tasks? notes sync?). These things would increase the utility of the iPhone significantly to many users.
 
Unfortunately, isn't cut and paste relatively major change that would be really annoying to announce to developers after they have been programming for months? Presumably, if it were to be implemented, some gesture or sequence of taps would be off limits for new programs or they would conflict with the copy and paste functionality. Also, wouldn't some developers really want to incorporate it into their programs?

It would seem, until apple has figured which developers are going to be regulars and trustworthy enough to seed secret iphone builds, as it already probably has with leopard, we probably aren't in for many major secret revisions for a while.

We could hope that apple would update or add a few apps of their own to keep up the competition.
 
More features in the basic firmware - always good news.

I do find it bizarre that we'd get a new calculator app over something like horizontal keyboard support in all applications though (especially notes!). It maybe that both are there in the final firmware, so it's fair enough. But I'm just a little worried given previous firmware updates seem to have introduced features in an "interesting" order.

Phazer
 
yes finally! a real calculator!

yr3o2m

One of PC's fun apps. :)
 
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