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No, I promise I'm responding to the right quote. Part of wearable tech is its appearance. Is it something that I want to wear every day or is it something that I will only wear with certain things, while working out, etc. In addition to the internals of a device I also look at the "externals", 99% of which is appearance.
If that's the case, you were attempting to hijack a technical, spec based debate with something that purely subjective. Not the direction we were headed.

Either way, I will give my subjective opinion, just like you did. Even though I don't care for smartwatches, I think the S2, specifically the Classic, looks better. It looks more traditional and masculine. Two important factors for me. The Apple Watch is too feminine for my taste. At best, it looks unisex. Not my thing.
 
You're assuming that always on eye tracking technology will not use more power than the screen.
They could develop a sensor and chip the sole purpose of which is eye tracking. I read a paper a while back where some researcher had developed a method for power efficient mobile eye tracking using a clever algorithm than didn't need a full image of the eye (or something to that effect)
 
You have the same routine as me. I typically end the day with 60% of the battery left so I charge for an hour before bed and then wear it for the silent alarm each morning and to track my sleep. I usually wake with about 93% battery left and do an hour workout and put it on the charger by my sink while I shower and get ready.

Which sleep app? I use Sleep++ and I'm pretty happy with it.

Generally while asleep mine uses 10% (plus or minus a little bit), a few times 0% and a times 30% (and the 30% aren't particularly long nights). Putting it into Airplane mode doesn't seem to make much of a difference...

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i cant imagine how i would feel if i bought 14000$ watch which is out of fashin in 2 years

It won't be out of fashion. It will be a classic.

You don't see people throw away the original Rolex watches or even the original iPhone1.

And the market for the $14k Watch is millionaires. They burn $14k on a dinner and drinks. Having the most expensive smart watch on the planet for 1 year is well worth $14k for these people.
 
Macs were their bread and butter... Had they used your reasoning it would've been MacPhone. There is no need to try again. That's what you were suggesting by keeping the same naming conventions with all of their products.

The Mac was already named the "Mac" when Steve decided to go in a different direction with the Mac as the central hub for the internet, music, movies, etc back in the late 90s. Hence, the "i" in the iMac. The iPhone followed this marketing strategy and logic by being named the "iPhone". Thus, the Apple Watch is similar to the "iPhone" AND the "iMac" as a central node but in this case for your health, notifications, time, etc. Hence, it still holds the same *logic* to call it an "iWatch" and NOT the bizarre branding of "Apple Watch" or "Apple Watch Sport" or "Apple Watch Edition" or "Apple Watch Hermes". Try harder!
 
Why on Earth do you term them 'overseas'?

Such a relative term, especially for a website with a global readership / Such a presumption of everything revolving around America!
Where did the Technology come from?! Who built china?! Who built Taiwan's industrial base?! Who foolishly died fighting for England and remodernized it's industry?!
 
Launching the Apple Watch 2 with the iPhone 7 doesn't seem like a great strategy. I don't think consumers will want to buy two expensive new Apple toys at the same time.

Agreed. I do plan on upgrading
Please, come out at WWDC!!

I also would like to see a WWDC release. Here is to hoping.
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Ok so if i fly long haul this thing is gonna die before i even get to the hotel. Or if i stay at a relatives house it will be dead before the morning.
Sorry, not acceptable

Then the Watch is not for you. You seem to focused on the battery life. !8 Hours is more than enough to get me through a 14 hour day, with 50% battery life remaining. Perhaps you can support Pebble with their purported "7 Day" battery life. Lets see how much you appreciate their customer support and Operating software.
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I really want to like this thing. I really like the design and I feel like a "grownup" when I wear it. I've owned and returned it on 4 different occasions.

The app screen is cluttered garbage and hard to use and I never could figure out how to activate the watch faces or find the mickey mouse face. Without that, the thing even failed as a simple watch - it always started up on different screens and I'd have to spend 10 - 20 seconds and lots of swipes to get it back to the home screen which only had the time displayed in tiny fonts in a small corner. I think apps on this tiny screen are pointless and the Pay functions always disappointing as I had to twist my arm in weird directions to get all the stationary scanners to read the bar codes. The screen was too small to read notifications. In most situations I would give up and just use my phone anyway.

I know if I read the manual or watched the online tutorials figuring out the navigation and functions would be "easy." But at the end of the day it is a WATCH and should be intuitive and simple to use. It fails spectacularly. I shouldn't have to read user manuals and watch online videos to use it. Again, design and color options are fantastic, but yeah...

Really? How could you not figure out how to use the Watch face screens??? And your complaining about having to twist your arm in different directions for Apple Pay? Sounds like you have personal issues or incapable of performing simple tasks with the Watch. Of course the screen is small to read notifications, its a Watch, not the size of an iPhone Screen. The Apple Watch is easy enough where you can easily bypass any tutorials. Sounds like user error to me. Don't blame the Apple Watch.
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The anylists are predicting Apple will sell half of what they did during the launch year.



Sorry, what bands currently do this?



There are around 500 million iPhones worldwide. There are around 10 million Watches worldwide. I'd say the odds are quite a bit better if I forget my iPhone charger on a trip, wherever I'm staying will likely have one to loan me. Not to mention the widespread availability of them at the corner Walgreens. Probably out of luck if you forget your Watch charger.

Really? I think competency would play a role if some KNOWS their wearing a rechargeable Watch in which will require charging, to have a spare or bring the original with them. Not to mention Low Power Mode as an option.
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Lies, hyperbole and straw man arguments, which have nothing to do with the point.

Actual Rip Curl specs from the manual:

Width - 45.5mm (square, not including strap)
Thickness - 15.5mm

Actual Watch specs from the dimensional drawings:

Width - 38.03mm (x42.5mm height, not including strap)
Thickness - 12.46mm

Your claim that Rip Curl is "70% THICKER" than the 42mm Watch = 21.18mm

Actual difference: 3.04mm, or less than 25% thicker.

Your hyperbole = over 45%

And I'm still waiting for you to send links to your earlier claim that extended battery watch bands were currently available.

Except....no one cares about your Dog Collar or Rip Curl. Take your rant to a different forum, stay on topic.
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Isn't perspective fascinating? The exact same watch looks positively tiny in this photo:

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If you're going to make these kinds of arguments, you could at least be intellectually honest about it.

He Was being honest about it. He clearly stated where he obtained his facts from Amazon. I like your hideous Rip Curl Watch by the way. Thats being intellectually honest.
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You go find them yourself, while you're posting links to your own claims. This isn't my argument. It's yours. I'm just pointing out your intellectual dishonesty. And while you're at it, please post your engineering degree, so we understand the technical background that enable you to make all of these claims.

Engineering degree? Intellectual Dishonesty? Your posts are consistently cynical and more to the point...egregious.
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Dude. At least post a picture that shows the RipCurl watch closer. That picture has the rip curl a mile away and half covered by the surfer. You are making yourself look bad. I posted a picture of the RipCurl and S2 to show its thickness. Those are not misleading photo graphs. Most here are aware of how the Apple Watch thickness looks like already.

And why the hell are you comparing a single feature watch like the RipCurl to a full featured Apple Watch? Just stop.

So your reasoning is Apple can do anything with no regard to basic physics? Give me a break. Samsung is an elite hardware maker and even they can't fit a GPS/LTE radio in a decent sized smartphone and get good battery life.

And I'm not asking you to do any legwork. Just a simple google search. Find me a single smartwatch with GPS/Cell radio that has the same battery life and as small form factor as the Apple Watch. There isn't any. Its a technical hurdle at this time.

You keep yelling that Apple can do it. Apple can do it. Apple can do it. Yet provide ZERO proof that its even possible at a $300 price point.

My proof that they can't is every single 3G smartwatch on the market is either much larger or has crappy battery life. Batteries, battery life, and 3G radios are not high tech. Its basic electronics. There are physical limitations. This is just like expecting an iPhone to have 5 day battery life.


Mac 128 is requesting your engineering degree ASAP. Please forward it to "Mac128is a troll.com". He clearly is obsessed with his Rip Curl watch.
 
The original iPhone did not have third party apps. There were 'web apps' that were nothing more than links to a web site, but no installed third party apps. Jobs didn't think they were needed, he was of the opinion that web apps would take care of all the applications iPhone users needed.

3rd party apps were not available on iPhone OS1 - they were available for the original iPhone following release of iPhone OS2.

However, there were proprietary apps in iPhone OS1 that did not slow down the original phone or cause the level of sluggishness experienced across the board on :apple:Watch.
 
Apple has worked hard and smart over the years. As a result they're now able to create a less than outstanding product like Apple Watch and keep it in the lineup without having to rely on it making money. With that kind of freedom Apple can take all kinds of risks, and never truly be concerned about the outcome.
 
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Apple has worked hard and smart over the years. As a result they're now able to create a less than outstanding product like Apple Watch and keep it in the lineup without having to rely on it making money. With that kind of freedom Apple can take all kinds of risks, and never truly be concerned about the outcome.

To be fair, it will get significantly more effective at what it does, over the next 2-3 iterations. However, I completely agree about what they can get away with atm.
 
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