More Suppliers Secure Apple Watch 2 Orders as Launch Inches Closer

[warrior2000]

Third party apps on the iPhone OS1 - I'm sure you knew that.

Watch is laggy and sluggish across the board. It is crap. and that is the same feedback I get from a wide range of users.

LOL.

The Apple Watch has a 97% satisfaction rate. Higher than the original iPhone and iPad.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...action-outpaces-original-iphone-ipad---report

But go ahead and rely on your anecdotal evidence that accounts for .001% of Watch sales.

Apple has sold about 10,000,000 units in less than a year and is by far the best selling smartwatch on the planet.

 

[citysnaps]

Could you at least read the reviews before you make grand statements?
The Samsung S2 3G has horrible battery life when the cell radio is used.
Nice job of showing a picture of the none 3G watch which is much thinner also.

http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-gear-s2-3g/

"It's more expensive, requires a connected data plan to pair with, and runs out of battery life quickly on cellular. It's bulkier, too."

"But it's also really thick. It felt OK on my wrist, but anyone who prefers smaller watches or bands might object."

"I didn't mention battery life, but it's not great. It has about three or fours of active use, or a day (or less) of regular standby use with cellular turned on. It ran out of juice on my wrist by early evening, most days, and I wasn't using it much. It charges via a wireless cradle that's included."


THREE OR FOURS HOURS OF ACTIVE USE. LESS THAN ONE DAY OF USE WITH CELLULAR TURNED ON STANDBY.

PLUS THE WATCH IS ABOUT 30% THICKER THAN THE LARGEST APPLE WATCH, WITH A SMALLER USABLE SCREEN SIZE.

Like I said the tech isn't ready for a 3G smartwatch with equal battery life as the current AppleWatch in the same size case. Sure you can fit it in a much bigger case or sacrifice full day battery life. But most people want full day battery life and don't want to wear a massively thick watch on their wrist.

Agree...

And how much does that extra data plan cost?

Looks like it is really thick, but a clever photo tried to disguise that. Very misleading.

There are very few times when I don't have my phone with me - even in the gym it's with me. Makes a ton of sense to have my watch tether wirelessly to my phone. Overall that was an excellent decision by Apple.

 

[warrior2000]

Tim Cook's Apple.

Even Jony Ive would rather design shop interiors now than get involved in the device hardware comedy coming out of Cupertino under Cook.

iPhone 6s - best selling smartphone this year
iPhone 6s+ - best selling phablet phone this year
AppleWatch - best selling smart watch
iMac - best selling all-in-one
iPad - best selling tablet
MacBook - best selling Laptop line

Sure looks like Tim Cook's Apple is a comedy. LOL. Hard to believe even with overwhelming success people want to bash Apple. LOL.

The results speak for themself. People vote with their money. Talk is cheap. Anyone can spout criticisms of a product. But money don't lie. Apples ridiculously great sales is proof that Apple is anything but a comedy. More like a tragedy.....for Apple haters. LOL. Or a horror movie....for those wishing Apple would fail. LOLOLOLOLLLOLOLL.

I bask in the greatest that is Tim Cook's Apple. Dominating smartphones, tablets, wearables, and laptops.

 

[Max Portakabin]

iPhone 6s - best selling smartphone this year
iPhone 6s+ - best selling phablet phone this year
AppleWatch - best selling smart watch
iMac - best selling all-in-one
iPad - best selling tablet
MacBook - best selling Laptop line

Sure looks like Tim Cook's Apple is a comedy. LOL. Hard to believe even with overwhelming success people want to bash Apple. LOL.

The results speak for themself. People vote with their money. Talk is cheap. Anyone can spout criticisms of a product. But money don't lie. Apples ridiculously great sales is proof that Apple is anything but a comedy. More like a tragedy.....for Apple haters. LOL. Or a horror movie....for those wishing Apple would fail. LOLOLOLOLLLOLOLL.

I bask in the greatest that is Tim Cook's Apple. Dominating smartphones, tablets, wearables, and laptops.

I hope this is satire because otherwise I worry about your mental health.

 

[warrior2000]

I hope this is satire because otherwise I worry about your mental health.

Why?

Isn't great sales YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR proof that people love the product?
If not what is? What's a greater voting system than voting with $$$? People can lie and bullsheet all they want but they tell the truth with what they buy.

Apple appeals to the mass market who has $$$. Apple does not try to appeal to tech nerds.
They sell more high end devices than anyone on the planet by a large margin.

So if sales and repeat customers is not the measuring stick what should be?
You tell me.

Mental health? LOL. Whats worse? Praising and being happy about a product you own or constantly bashing a product and a CEO of a company you don't even know? You tell me what is more healthy? LOL. Thanks for the laughs!

 

[cableguy84]

Tim Cook's Apple.

Even Jony Ive would rather design shop interiors now than get involved in the device hardware comedy coming out of Cupertino under Cook.

true, true

 

[OllyW]

Blows my mind that people can't charge their watch every night. It literally takes 2 seconds for me to put my watch on the dock each night. For me its way easier to charge each day. It would be harder to remember to charge every other day.

It still amuses me that most fans of the Apple Watch think it's best features are notifications and reminders but can't imagine the watch being able to send them notifications and reminders telling them to charge the battery if Apple ever manage to extend battery life to two days or more.

 

[jase1125]

Why on Earth do you term them 'overseas'?

Such a relative term, especially for a website with a global readership / Such a presumption of everything revolving around America!

Oh I don't know. Probably because this is an American publication covering an American company. Stop being butthurt over nonsensical issues.

 

[69Mustang]

Could you at least read the reviews before you make grand statements?
The Samsung S2 3G has horrible battery life when the cell radio is used.
Nice job of showing a picture of the none 3G watch which is much thinner also.

http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-gear-s2-3g/

"It's more expensive, requires a connected data plan to pair with, and runs out of battery life quickly on cellular. It's bulkier, too."

"But it's also really thick. It felt OK on my wrist, but anyone who prefers smaller watches or bands might object."

"I didn't mention battery life, but it's not great. It has about three or fours of active use, or a day (or less) of regular standby use with cellular turned on. It ran out of juice on my wrist by early evening, most days, and I wasn't using it much. It charges via a wireless cradle that's included."


THREE OR FOURS HOURS OF ACTIVE USE. LESS THAN ONE DAY OF USE WITH CELLULAR TURNED ON STANDBY.

PLUS THE WATCH IS ABOUT 30% THICKER THAN THE LARGEST APPLE WATCH, WITH A SMALLER USABLE SCREEN SIZE.

Like I said the tech isn't ready for a 3G smartwatch with equal battery life as the current AppleWatch in the same size case. Sure you can fit it in a much bigger case or sacrifice full day battery life. But most people want full day battery life and don't want to wear a massively thick watch on their wrist.

You're right. I confused the specs for the standard S2. Apologies. The CNet reviewer got worse battery life than the ZDNet reviewer. http://www.zdnet.com/article/gear-s...-smartwatch-offers-more-than-the-apple-watch/ Most likely due to the way they used them differently. The additional 3mm does make it thicker, but not all caps thicker. Not massively thick either. You do love your hyperbole though.

As for the cellular data plan, any watch with the ability to make independent calls is going to have a plan. Not sure what the argument is on this one. Even your hypothetical watch + screens idea is going to need a data plan.

 

[JackANSI]

LOL. 2 days. Guess you will be 'watchless' for a while.

Blows my mind that people can't charge their watch every night. It literally takes 2 seconds for me to put my watch on the dock each night. For me its way easier to charge each day. It would be harder to remember to charge every other day.

Every day charge my phone and watch. Takes 5 seconds to do both. LOL.

LOL. You need to get out of the house and travel more, son.

 

[blacktape242]

you can't have a sport watch with out GPS, so apple please get it right this time...

 

[Someyoungguy]

Why on Earth do you term them 'overseas'?

Such a relative term, especially for a website with a global readership / Such a presumption of everything revolving around America!

They are overseas relative to Apple HQ. Lighten up!

 

[sidewinder3000]

I don't care about thinness as much as battery life. If they make the watch thinner without at least DOUBLING battery life, I'll be sorely disappointed

 

[Someyoungguy]

GPS is worthless without a cell radio.
With just GPS it would take 5 minutes+ to find a signal. Thats why it would need a cell radio to have a usable GPS.

So do you really want to stuff a GPS+Cell Radio in the watch?

My Garmin watch gets a GPS signal in about 7 seconds. The phone relays satellite location hints to the watch when in range.

My 10 year old Tom Tom gets a GPS lock in about two minutes without any aides.

Modern GPS radios can also receive GLONAS signals (Russian GPS), increasing the likelihood of a lock.
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Uh, GPS radio takes space. Also note that GPS watches don't have a taptic engine or a CPU that is as big as the AppleWatch. The Apple watch screen also takes much more size and weight than a simple Mono screen.

The truth is very few people need a GPS radio on their watch. Those who do probably are better off buying a dedicated fitness band.

The tech just is not ready for a stand alone Watch. Maybe in 3 years.

Personally what I'd like to see is the Watch as a standalone product with LTE/GPS. Then you could buy a seperate touch screen that would act as the Watches 'monitor'. But keep in mind a stand alone Watch that takes the place of your phone would cost $600 minimum.

With the Watch being the central brain you could buy multiple touch screens at different sizes. These touch screens would be dumb screens. So some days you could bring along a 6 inch screen, other days 4 inch. Other days 10 inch.

Ok, so your cellular argument failed, your weight argument failed, and now you're on to space. I wonder how Samsung and Garmin can do it, but Apple can't. Stop making excuses for them.

 

[69Mustang]

Agree...

And how much does that extra data plan cost?

Looks like it is really thick, but a clever photo tried to disguise that. Very misleading.

There are very few times when I don't have my phone with me - even in the gym it's with me. Makes a ton of sense to have my watch tether wirelessly to my phone. Overall that was an excellent decision by Apple.

The only thing misleading about that picture is I used the wrong one when referencing the S2 3G. The watch in the picture is an 11.4 mm thick S2 regular compared to the 10.5 mm thickness of the AW. There was no attempt to disguise anything. It's not a Samsung photo. It's a picture from a comparison of the S2 v. AW. Nothing misleading.

 

[sidewinder3000]

The only thing I want from an Apple Watch 2 is the Face Time camera. That's all. A faster processor would be nice but not something that would warrant me getting a new one. The rest of the things I want are OS changes that could be implemented on the original Apple Watch that they haven't bothered touching.

Curious, what OS changes would you like to see? I'd love to see 2x more watch faces, much finer "watch specific" control for notifications, among other things.
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[warrior2000]

My Garmin watch gets a GPS signal in about 7 seconds. The phone relays satellite location hints to the watch when in range.

My 10 year old Tom Tom gets a GPS lock in about two minutes without any aides.

Modern GPS radios can also receive GLONAS signals (Russian GPS), increasing the likelihood of a lock.
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Ok, so your cellular argument failed, your weight argument failed, and now you're on to space. I wonder how Samsung and Garmin can do it, but Apple can't. Stop making excuses for them.

Wrong. Samsung had not done it. Read the S2 reviews. It gets horrible battery life of less than a day and its 30% thicker with less usable screen area. Remember to read the 3g reviews. The regular S2 gets similiar battery life as the Apple watch.

The Garmin is a stretch to be called a smart watch. Again it is significantly thicker and larger than an Apple Watch plus it has a mono screen.

Apple is not going to make the watch thicker and larger just to stuff a cell radio.

There is no true smartwatch on the market right now that has a full color display with all day battery life and a form factor the same size or smaller as the Apple watch.
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The only thing misleading about that picture is I used the wrong one when referencing the S2 3G. The watch in the picture is an 11.4 mm thick S2 regular compared to the 10.5 mm thickness of the AW. There was no attempt to disguise anything. It's not a Samsung photo. It's a picture from a comparison of the S2 v. AW. Nothing misleading.

The Samsung S2 3G is 13.4 mm thick. About 20% thicker than the regular S2 you show on the picture and about 30% thicker than the Apple Watch.

30% thicker is very significant for a watch. Especially since the Samsung S2 had less useable screen area than the Apple Watch.

If you think 30% isn't significant, try ask any one how hard it would be to make the current Apple Watch 30% thinner without sacrificing battery life or features.

 

[Spendlove]

I will be ordering it immediately.

Apple Watch 1 has been fantastic for a gen 1 device that does so so so so much. I wear it everyday, use it all day.

Bring on version 2! (Just keep the band fittings or there will be trouble).

 

[69Mustang]

The Samsung S2 3G is 13.4 mm thick. About 20% thicker than the regular S2 you show on the picture and about 30% thicker than the Apple Watch.

30% thicker is very significant for a watch. Especially since the Samsung S2 had less useable screen area than the Apple Watch.

If you think 30% isn't significant, try ask any one how hard it would be to make the current Apple Watch 30% thinner without sacrificing battery life or features.

You're replying to the wrong quote. I already acknowledged in my reply to you that the S2 G3 is 3mm thicker than the AW at quote 109. My response to citysnaps was about the implication the picture was staged to make the S2 look thinner. No one was attempting to shade the thickness of the watch in the picture.

We can agree to disagree about the significance of a 3mm difference. I'll admit, 30% does sound huge until 3mm is put into perspective, it's 0.118 inches. I'm not sure why one would think of making the AW 30% thinner (to make it even more feminine?)

 

[warrior2000]

I will be ordering it immediately.

Apple Watch 1 has been fantastic for a gen 1 device that does so so so so much. I wear it everyday, use it all day.

Bring on version 2! (Just keep the band fittings or there will be trouble).

I agree. People who don't wear an Apple Watch every day don't understand. Hell, I didn't understand until I bought it and used it for a week. Now I can't go a day without wearing it, just like my phone. I consider it a personal assistant right there on my wrist.
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You're replying to the wrong quote. I already acknowledged in my reply to you that the S2 G3 is 3mm thicker than the AW at quote 109. My response to citysnaps was about the implication the picture was staged to make the S2 look thinner. No one was attempting to shade the thickness of the watch in the picture.

We can agree to disagree about the significance of a 3mm difference. I'll admit, 30% does sound huge until 3mm is put into perspective, it's 0.118 inches. I'm not sure why one would think of making the AW 30% thinner (to make it even more feminine?)

3mm is a huge difference on a small item like a watch. The 4mm difference in screen size for the 38mm and 42mm Apple watch sounds like not much. But it is a huge difference when its on your wrist.

Check out this Rip Curl GPS watch which is 17mm (about 30% larger than the Samsung S2 3G) it looks absolutely massive (pic below)

here is a pic of the Samsung S2 3G. It looks VERY THICK. Much thicker than the Apple WAtch. And keep in mind this watch gets horrible battery life. So for it to get similiar battery life as the Apple WAtch it would have to be even THICKER.

You are saying why would Apple have to make the Watch 30% thinner? I'm saying to get the same battery life as now they would need to make all the other components 30% thinner to fit a larger battery and Cell/GPS radio. It isn't that easy at all. And I'm not even sure its possible on a $299 device. Don't forget there are also big royalties to pay for any device that runs LTE/3G. About 4% of the sales price. That's why an LTE iPad cost $130 more than Wifi.

 

[garylapointe]

Blows my mind that people can't charge their watch every night. It literally takes 2 seconds for me to put my watch on the dock each night. For me its way easier to charge each day. It would be harder to remember to charge every other day.

Every day charge my phone and watch. Takes 5 seconds to do both. LOL.

I wear mine 23/7.
I charge it when I'm getting ready for bed and put it back on to run a sleep app (I usually read in bed so most times it gets fully charged). Put it on to sleep. Put it back on the charger in the morning to top it off while I'm getting ready (before I put it back on the charger I set a timer based on when I think it'll be full [1.3 minutes per percent] so I don't have to keep checking it AND so I don't forget it).

Even if it lasted 3 days, I'd still probably charge it ever night (because I'd forget to charge it every third night).
I probably wouldn't charge it in the morning if that were the case, but still.

Gary

 

[brinary001]

Why on Earth do you term them 'overseas'?

Such a relative term, especially for a website with a global readership / Such a presumption of everything revolving around America!

Calm down this isn't a PRSI story so don't make it into one.

Both Apple and MacRumors are headquartered here, so they're going to use language that centers them on this sphere we call Earth. If they were based in the UK and said "overseas" I wouldn't think anything of it because it's still overseas relative to me.

 

[garylapointe]

Ok so if i fly long haul this thing is gonna die before i even get to the hotel. Or if i stay at a relatives house it will be dead before the morning.
Sorry, not acceptable

My phone is going to need a charge in those same scenarios. I keep a watch charger with my phone charger.

The phone might last longer generally, but if I'm traveling long haul, I'm probably using the phone life up anyways so I'm going to top it off (and could easily top the watch off too). What else do I have to do while waiting to get there? If I have a laptop top it makes it even easier to charge things up.

Gary

 

[Mac 128]

Dude. That Rip Curl watch has a MASSIVE face of 47mm. Plus its 70% THICKER than the biggest Apple watch. Add to the fact that it has a mono color screen, no taptic engine, and a much smaller CPU, no force touch, digital crown, ect.

So you want to stuff all that plus more in an Apple Watch case that is 70% smaller? LOL.

Lies, hyperbole and straw man arguments, which have nothing to do with the point.

Actual Rip Curl specs from the manual:

Width - 45.5mm (square, not including strap)
Thickness - 15.5mm

Actual Watch specs from the dimensional drawings:

Width - 38.03mm (x42.5mm height, not including strap)
Thickness - 12.46mm

Your claim that Rip Curl is "70% THICKER" than the 42mm Watch = 21.18mm

Actual difference: 3.04mm, or less than 25% thicker.

Your hyperbole = over 45%

And I'm still waiting for you to send links to your earlier claim that extended battery watch bands were currently available.

But people could say the same thing about the iPhone. But Apple has been pretty consistent about giving the iPhone only 1 day of battery life not 2. It really is a trade off. Battery life or device size. I think at this point they have good balance. I would not want to see the Watch get much bigger or else it would be getting to ugly large watch territory.

Besides I think you can buy bands that extend the battery life to 2 days.

 

[warrior2000]

Lies, hyperbole and straw man arguments, which have nothing to do with the point.

Actual Rip Curl specs from the manual:

Width - 45.5mm (square, not including strap)
Thickness - 15.5mm

Actual Watch specs from the dimensional drawings:

Width - 38.03mm (x42.5mm height, not including strap)
Thickness - 12.46mm

Your claim that Rip Curl is "70% THICKER" than the 42mm Watch = 21.18mm

Actual difference: 3.04mm, or less than 25% thicker.

Your hyperbole = over 45%

And I'm still waiting for you to send links to your earlier claim that extended battery watch bands were currently available.

I got my specs from Amazon. It says the case was 47mm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rip-Curl-SearchGPS-Smart-Watch/dp/B00P82ESF8

I read on another article it was 17mm thickness. Can't find the link.
The Apple watch is 10mm. So with your measurement of 15.5 the Surf watch is 50% thicker.

Plus it has no full color screen.
No touch screen. No force touch. etc. ect. ect.

Again if is so easy to make a smartwatch with a cell radio/GPS with the same battery life and size as the Apple WAtch show me one. Show me one. The Rip Curl is not a smartwatch. And the Samsung S2 has horrible battery life. If it was so easy there would one out, but there isn't.