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More UK iPhone 4 Details: Vodafone Pricing Leaked, Virgin Looking to Come On Board?

downset said:
will they be sold unlocked anywhere in the uk or does each carrier lock them?

i am in london on the 24th and would like to try to buy one in the apple store
if a buy a paytogo phone will it be locked?
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Probably will be locked, but if you buy from O2 and if you make two calls longer than 15 seconds each and you have more than £15 credit on the phone then you can ask online for O2 to unlock it. This process certainly applied to the 3GS so everyone is hoping it will also apply to the 4. O2 charge £15 for PAYG unlocks
 
ACDeag said:
Probably will be locked, but if you buy from O2 and if you make two calls longer than 15 seconds each and you have more than £15 credit on the phone then you can ask online for O2 to unlock it. This process certainly applied to the 3GS so everyone is hoping it will also apply to the 4. O2 charge £15 for PAYG unlocks
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How much is the 4G on PAYG?
 
tazzy8907 said:
It all depends on what contract they have with BT for their openzone hotspots... O2 has a contract that gives all their customers unlimited wifi (and same with the cloud) but voda (and I think orange only has 750mb... if it's the same as the 3Gs) only has a contract for 1gb... still their fault probs 😛 need to throw a bit more cash at BT!!!
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Depending how much you use it, OpenZone isn't very expensive anyway - you can buy bandwidth that's not locked to monthly usage (PAYG essentially).

I'm starting to wonder at O2's own data service this past few days. I'm using a tether bolt-on and I've started noticing them throttling the download speeds on large files... once a download gets over 64MB it goes from ~400KB/s to ~41KB/s, every single time. Pausing the download for ten seconds then resuming gets you back to ~400KB/s.

Curiously the tether bolt-on is 3GB/mo for £10 - better and cheaper than the new iPhone tariff data plans 😛 This is the same data network as normal phone data, so I'm guessing someone at O2 isn't very good at math.
 
With Orange releasing their tariffs today there is one thing which really stands out to me - an MMS message costs 20p on O2, 30p on Orange, and 36p on Vodafone, with no allowance.

cg0def said:
All iPhones sold in the UK are unlocked since the end of last year.
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Does that include contract subsidized phones, or just PAYG ones?
 
aperantos said:
That is certainly not true of O2. I know someone on who had an iPhone with them and now an Android phone, but tethers at home and so uses several GB per week but has never been stopped by any fair usage policy.

Michael.
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tethering is usually done through a seperate system, usually as a bolt on in 02's terms. Your friend may well have been using a few gb per week, but the majority of this would have through the tethering which is not connected to your phones data usage, but as a separate tethering allowance which is a lot more than mobile data consumption.
I'm referring to just phone usage, no tethering included, in which the majority of u.k carriers enforce fair usage policies of around 1gb.

Please, correct me if i'm wrong 🙂
 
woodo said:
tethering is usually done through a seperate system, usually as a bolt on in 02's terms. Please, correct me if i'm wrong 🙂
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Sorry to say you are wrong I am afraid. It is just through a normal tariff, no bolt on. Not sure how he did it on his iPhone, maybe using the OS 3.1.0 trick as I do not think it was jailbroken, but with Android there is no physical restriction. He is looking forward to the next version of the Android OS as apparently that will let him use his phone as a mifi.

It is against the terms and conditions, but I guess they just do not enforce them. Much like how they are now using the fact that a few people abuse the network to push the tariff changes rather than applying the excessive usage policy on problem users.

As someone who does not make many calls I have switched to the cheapest simplicity tariff on O2 for £15pm (12-month contract) as it works out the cheapest overall option for me, plus I get to keep unlimited data as the new tariffs have not started yet.

Kind of ironic really, if O2 had not added the limit I would have just stayed at £45 per month and upgraded, instead I am now paying them less and keeping unlimited data.

Apart from the data limit O2 still seem the best value of all networks, at least over Orange and Vodafone. Was shocked today to discover that voicemail is not free on Vodafone, it is charged as a standard phone call.

Michael.
 
wow overpriced.

zengod said:
Looks like Orange is the better deal on the better network so it's bye bye O2 for me !! (And serves them right for not making any effort to sort out their 3G service over the last two years !!)

http://shop.o2.co.uk/new-iphone/tariffs.html
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cheers for the heads up.
By the looks of those phone costs 02 are about to loose a lot of customers, including me! granted i am only basing this on the cheaper end of the tariffs, but they seem to charge more for the phone if you buy it on a longer contract, seems backward if you ask me? The orange deals are better than this but vodafone will be my winner if those leaked prices actually become a reality, they looked like great deals to me!
Hurry up u.k carriers, get your act together and release your prices, i'm far too impatient! 🙂
 
aperantos said:
Sorry to say you are wrong I am afraid. It is just through a normal tariff, no bolt on.
Michael.
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fair enough, i stand corrected 🙂 still, i'm pretty sure that the tethering in the uk is done seperately, if you look at the orange pay monthly plans:
http://iphone.orange.co.uk/plans/
,at the bottom of the grid there is the monthly tethering add on for 3gb of tethered 3g data, which suggests to me that the tethering is a seperate add on and measured seperately from just the phone's 3g data usage whilst untethered?

woodo.
 
ACDeag said:
Be interesting to see if 3 upset the apple cart with their pricing.
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Their pricing is now released:

http://www.three.co.uk/Phones/iPhone?_$ja=tsid:21697

The pricing isn't too bad, but only 1 GB data allowance, and I haven't been able to find out what they charge for out-of-allowance usage.
 
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