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In my experience, my relationship with Apple's devices have changed from mediocre to extremely loved in the past 20 years, so it's believable to hear that Apple's brand loyalty has declined. I suppose that can fluctuate.
 
Just make Siri straight up not totally useless, that's all I care about. Google Assistant is leagues ahead of Siri in getting answers to simple questions, and even then Google is still crap. It's 2024 and Apple has a basically unlimited budget to make Siri the best personal assistant and has for years, yet stubbornly they seem to refuse to make it even somewhat capable of being able to get even the most basic answers to questions on say a HomePod.
 
Well if you make most of your money with “tech trade in’s” that don’t support Apple Intelligence, then you gotta have a survey to back up your business model.
 
Colour none of us surprised. Tim Cook is a skidmark on Apple's product history.
I don't know about the latter.

But it feels very much that Apple is 2-3 years late to the game and won't be able to deliver on its AI concept until much later. Disappointingly much later.

Then again, having shopped around on various services and tried out of bunch non-Apple smartphones, I can't say there's really anyone besides OpenAI offering anything AI I need.

A lot of fun and super advance stuff, sure. But not anything I can really make much use of for my work, no true must haves (besides OpenAI's products).

However, I really hate that Apple didn't center the first iteration of Apple Intelligence on improving Siri instead of using recourses on image generation, Genmoji, Photo cleanup, etc.

Siri has been dreadfully behind the competition for years and years. And seeing how slow and lackluster the AI version of it has turned out just makes iPhones and iOS feel almost vintage if judged solely on its voice assistant.
 
18.1 and 18.2 have been incredibly underwhelming. I don’t really care for or even get most of these recent updates it doesn’t really solve a problem.
 
Unfortunately Apple Intelligence is not all that great. It’s something you may use occasionally and at this time not something anybody would pay for
 
I asked it "if im using 5600k color temperature lights and want them to look like tungsten in camera, how should I set the camera." I tried asking it this question 7 times in different ways and it thinks im trying to set up the HOME app, it says it cant do that or Chat GTP gives me a generic answer that is kinda useful but doesnt answer my question. Not really intelligent unless you want to take time ot get generic answers.
 
Does Apple Intelligence means Siri dictation finally uses Whisper.cpp?

Or will Siri dictation still suck compared to OpenAI/Whisper?
 
The auto responses for messages are completely useless to me because they don't match my style -- they sound like someone else's words. So, I never use them, and they kinda get in the way. I wish I could turn off that particular feature without turning off AI completely.
I HATE THOSE SO MUCH!!!
 
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Agreed, I just want Siri to be improved to be more natural and actually be useful. That stuff that we hear is delayed until 18.4 or 1? Forget all the stupid image gen gimmicks and text clean-up tools, there are and have been much better apps for that for many years. if you want to make those tools, work hard on them first and release when there is a ground-breaking implementation. Not this half baked rubbish. Historically, Apple would never release something that wasn't better in some way than the competition. Either by being simpler, or more integrated or innovative in their own way. I can see the Notification summaries having some hope if they can improve things a little more, Lock Screen notification management on iOS is not great. One of my biggest gripes is playing music in the car via Apple Music, so tired of hearing, I can't do that right now or, sorry I didn't get that. Be wonderful if it could comprehend a two part musical request like, play me some pump up music, but no rap, while I'm driving. I think Quality of life improvements are where the gains are to be had.

iPhone 15 pro max user
 
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I really want none of it. I want calls, music, a camera, a texting device, and a browser. That's it. I never use and shut off Siri.

I got a taste of AI when I upgraded my Mac and the autocomplete in writing emails was annoying enough. I'm keeping my iPhone on iOS 17 and if they are going to force AI on iPhones and computers, it's Graphene on a Pixel and Mint Linux for me in the future. This is a reason for me NOT to buy an Apple device.

It's fine to chase the latest and greatest but AI just seems dumb. Or, at least give us an out to get away from it for those who find it intrusive.
 
Yes, given their stated goals of privacy. Of course each of us has a different take on “smart” assistants.
Well, we probably disagree. I'm not as loyal to Apple as you are. There's no reason. If you don't mind that Apple hasn't been able to add a calculator to the iPad for so long - why? To this day, there is no independent volume control on the iPhone - notifications, calls, media - why? The mouse is charged from the bottom - I've never seen more stupidity - please explain to me the advantages of this charging from the bottom. The games in Arcade are for 5-year-olds children. HomePod can only play music. It doesn't work with SIRI very well. Such basic things for me. Apple can't do it - or doesn't want to? Apple constantly tells you what's good for you as if we were some kind of demented person. And you don't see it? OK. But I don't like it.
 
Anecdotal but true for myself: I'm slowly but surely moving away from using Google or DuckduckGo in order to find answers to questions I have. I have switched to using Perplexity or Copilot because the answers are way more relevant, and those services provide concise answers with relevant links so I can double check. For me this is an example of LLMs doing something truly useful and it differs from search engines 'of the past'. I expect this is how 'AI' will worm its way into our phone lives: slowly but surely. Whether a survey says people are interested or not is in my opinion irrelevant... people will simply start using it because it gives them something better. It is up to the OS en app developers to try and find the best use cases for 'AI'. It is early days! Apple is hinting at Siri being able to act as an agent in the future and perform (sort of) complex tasks, and that sounds fantastic. But I have to see it to believe it :)

BTW I write 'AI' because we're not really seeing true Artificial Intelligence applications yet.
So basically it will be the default search engine. Yes I can see that too and it’s how I use ChatGPT most of the time, but it’s hardly the game changer apple is trying to sell. That and it doesn’t require a new iPhone to get that functionality.
 
Well, we probably disagree. I'm not as loyal to Apple as you are. There's no reason. If you don't mind that Apple hasn't been able to add a calculator to the iPad for so long - why? To this day, there is no independent volume control on the iPhone - notifications, calls, media - why? The mouse is charged from the bottom - I've never seen more stupidity - please explain to me the advantages of this charging from the bottom. The games in Arcade are for 5-year-olds children. HomePod can only play music. It doesn't work with SIRI very well. Such basic things for me. Apple can't do it - or doesn't want to? Apple constantly tells you what's good for you as if we were some kind of demented person. And you don't see it? OK. But I don't like it.
I've also found I miss the ancient analog volume controls where you could feather in the loudness.

iOS/Android seems to just go in blocks, with the lowest being too loud almost sometimes, or the next jump is off, for some spoken word files. I can't get a volume in the middle.

I added a manual dial control inline with my wired headphones to allow this. It seems dumb though to have to jump through hoops.

I also dislike the volume controls in Bluetooth as well.
 
I've also found I miss the ancient analog volume controls where you could feather in the loudness.

iOS/Android seems to just go in blocks, with the lowest being too loud almost sometimes, or the next jump is off, for some spoken word files. I can't get a volume in the middle.

I added a manual dial control inline with my wired headphones to allow this. It seems dumb though to have to jump through hoops.

I also dislike the volume controls in Bluetooth as well.
These are small things, but I don't understand why Apple can't do this. I don't want to argue with you. We all have our own opinions. Have a good time
 
They’ll push the hell out of it and worry about whether there is any valid use for it later.

And while I type this, I’m seeing the Google Gemini commercial on TV for the ten thousandth time.
 
I asked it "if im using 5600k color temperature lights and want them to look like tungsten in camera, how should I set the camera." I tried asking it this question 7 times in different ways and it thinks im trying to set up the HOME app, it says it cant do that or Chat GTP gives me a generic answer that is kinda useful but doesnt answer my question. Not really intelligent unless you want to take time ot get generic answers.
Did you ask vanilla ChatGPT or Gemini the same question? I'm curious to know if one of them will be helpful with this question, it's a great use case for AI being helpful on the go!
 
I'm slowly but surely moving away from using Google or DuckduckGo in order to find answers to questions I have. I have switched to using Perplexity or Copilot because the answers are way more relevant, and those services provide concise answers with relevant links so I can double check. For me this is an example of LLMs doing something truly useful and it differs from search engines 'of the past'. I expect this is how 'AI' will worm its way into our phone lives: slowly but surely.
Yes, while most people justifiably don't see much value in most of the current Apple Intelligence features, an increasing number of people are and will be using AI-powered web search engines, and being fairly satisfied with the results most of the time. At that point, I don't think a lot of people will be saying they have no use for AI in general, or if they still do, it'll be because they don't know what they're saying.
 
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Well, we probably disagree. I'm not as loyal to Apple as you are.
There are 1B apple customers with their own thoughts.
There's no reason. If you don't mind that Apple hasn't been able to add a calculator to the iPad for so long - why?
Is the calculator a defining moment for apple? It isn’t.
To this day, there is no independent volume control on the iPhone - notifications, calls, media - why?
You’re right.
The mouse is charged from the bottom - I've never seen more stupidity - please explain to me the advantages of this charging from the bottom.
That has never bothered me.
The games in Arcade are for 5-year-olds children.
Ok. I don’t use arcade.
HomePod can only play music.
I’m okay with this. Don’t need it to solve for PI to the billionth decimal point.
It doesn't work with SIRI very well. Such basic things for me. Apple can't do it - or doesn't want to? Apple constantly tells you what's good for you as if we were some kind of demented person. And you don't see it? OK. But I don't like it.
Ok. I’m a firm believer for vote with your $$$.
 
About ChatGPT integration with Siri: I guess for some people it’s easier to ask Siri a question that it hands off to ChatGPT if it needs to, rather than requiring the user to download the ChatGPT app and launching it separately each time you want to access it. But I always launch the ChatGPT app when I know I want to use ChatGPT, and I don’t find this to be onerous.

Are there any advantages of automatic Siri handoffs to ChatGPT, besides the fact that you’re using the ubiquitous Siri interface to do it, so that you don’t have to go to a home page and tap on the ChatGPT app’s icon? And does Siri fail to do the handoff often enough to make always directly launching the ChatGPT the better option?

And what about Naomi?
 
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