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Most of Intel's Ivy Bridge CPUs Not Actually Delayed Until June
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I know i'm probably one of the only ones that prefers the way the Macbook Pro 13 looks now, I dislike the Air's tapered edge, so what I'm guessing will happen is the Ivy bridge update will be amazing, higher res screen, 15 hours of battery etc etc and that damn tapered edge I hate.
The 13" 'Pro' was never deserved of that title. 13" MacBook maybe but certainly had nothing Pro about it. I reckon Apple will do away with it at the next refresh and continue onwards and upwards for the new 15 and 17" MBP's it'll bring a little balance and distinction back to the line up.
The new MBP are sure to go down an absolute storm for everyone. Just wish I was in the position to purchase one!
The new MBP are sure to go down an absolute storm for everyone. Just wish I was in the position to purchase one!
What i am personally hoping for is a redesign of the Macbook pros along with retina screens, quad core 13 inch, and usb 3.0. That would make my day.
Well if intel are talking custom x86 SOC then we should see intel inside iPad before we see OS X on ARM
I'll certainly be upgrading my computer once Ivy Bridge is released, so the faster this is released the happier I'll be 
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.Your not the only one at all. I think Apple will keep both 13 and quad core pro vs dual core air. Add hires screens to the pros and it's two very different products.
I can see them adding a 15 air to the line up as well but the three pro models aren't going anywhere.
My next Macbook Pro? Quad Core i7 Ivy Bridge,15 inch, hopefully the pixel density will be like the 17 model 1920x1200 and hopefully Retina, it could easy replace the matte screens, would be a good replacement..., 1GB or more GPU , 16gb ram and a 512(480)gb ssd and am done
How so ? Look at how much time it took developers to move from PPC to x86 (some of which never actually did, leaving a lot of people whining when Apple removed Rosetta in Lion)... now you're telling us ARM wouldn't be an issue ?
Especially considering nothing ARM puts out right now can even rival Intel in performance per cycle, much less in actual cycles per second, you'd expect what ? Emulation ?
Please, can you tell us what you mean by "backwards compatibility" not being important ?
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What's in a name ? Real pros don't look at the names vendors give their models.
I have an Air, I use it for my job. Makes it a "Pro" computer to me.
For the billionth time, MacRumors, the MacBook Pro isn't merging with the MacBook Air! The 13" model may disappear, but the 15" and 17" models won't lose their quad-core CPUs and dedicated GPUs in favor of a thinner form factor as too many people actually would rather those features than an ultra-light and ultra-thin notebook.
I hope no one who uses their computer for a big part of their job simply walks into a store and sees the word Pro and assumes that is the right computer for them.
Although this may fit the typical Apple costumer stereotype, I would hope that a 'pro' does a little research and would know what kind of computer he needs for his work, not just the one called pro.
After all, everyone I know that owns a MacBook has the 13" MacBook pro. They are not pros; mostly students. I really don't think the name matters at all, people will buy whichever one they like the best. This is why I believe apple will soon kill the 13" mbp, drop the suffix, and call them all MacBooks.
What if Intel goes back to making ARM processors like back when they had acquired StrongArm and were making... well... ARM processors ?
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I think you'll be surprised when you see a ultra-light and ultra-thin 15" and 17" model with a quad-core CPU and dedicated GPU.
16gb RAM
1TB HD
GB Ethernet
Firewire
SD Card Slot
Optical Drive
IPS Screen (13 MBA has higher resolution but lower quality screen)
All things the 13" MBP can have or has that the MBA can not. Doesn't seem odd at all to keep it around.
Hum... IPS Screen and SD Card slot ?
They can very much fit an IPS screen in a 13" MBA just the same as they could in a 13" MBP (no MacBooks, including the Pros, have IPS screens for the moment, they all use TN panels. Laptops with IPS screens are quite the rare breed).
And again... SD Card slot ? The MBA can't have that ? Why does mine have one then ?
Even the RAM, nothing really prevents the MBA from having the same RAM the MBP does. It's just not user upgradeable. Apple just needs to make a SKU with more RAM and that's about it.
"Let's see Paul Allen's card."
--Patrick Bateman
And of course, like the Mac Pro at the high-end, the ignored wildcard in this discussion is the Mac Mini. It would be nice if at some point, the Mini goes all quad, and not just for the server like it is now.
--Patrick Bateman
And of course, like the Mac Pro at the high-end, the ignored wildcard in this discussion is the Mac Mini. It would be nice if at some point, the Mini goes all quad, and not just for the server like it is now.
The real Page One news here is that, after years and years of quoting anonymous sources, usually proven to be wrong, people still believe anything printed in Digitimes. I'd trust a story about a 3 headed alien in the National Enquirer more than anything in Digitimes.
Based on the expected March-April official shipping of Ivy Bridge timing would suggest Apple product refresh starting as soon as next Tues or March 6. I don't see Apple refreshing any Macs in the middle of a "new" iPad hype cycle though so if not the 6th then we'll be waiting until mid/late April. Apple, historically, tends to promote one product family at a time.
Based on the expected March-April official shipping of Ivy Bridge timing would suggest Apple product refresh starting as soon as next Tues or March 6. I don't see Apple refreshing any Macs in the middle of a "new" iPad hype cycle though so if not the 6th then we'll be waiting until mid/late April. Apple, historically, tends to promote one product family at a time.
If apple kill the 13" pro (and expect the Air to replace it), they're missing the point.
Pros NEED gigabit ethernet. Wireless or USB dongles aren't fast enough. Pros NEED memory expansion - 4gb or even 8gb is not nearly enough.
Pros NEED to be able to change out/upgrade storage.
There's certainly a market for a 13" Pro with anti-glare screen, decent screen res, 16gb of RAM and an anti-glare screen option.
Speaking of which.... why are apple's most portable machines all without anti-glare? If you're likely to use a machine outside or somewhere that there is likely to be glare, surely its more likely to be PORTABLE?
My 2c?
Get rid of the optical drive, double the number of memory slots and fill the remaining space with battery.
Maybe ditch the firewire port, and upgrade the USB to 3.0. Maybe add a second thunderbolt port? Memory card slot = meh. It can go.
Anything else being removed would be a compromise that a real workhorse machine can't deal with.
Pros NEED gigabit ethernet. Wireless or USB dongles aren't fast enough. Pros NEED memory expansion - 4gb or even 8gb is not nearly enough.
Pros NEED to be able to change out/upgrade storage.
There's certainly a market for a 13" Pro with anti-glare screen, decent screen res, 16gb of RAM and an anti-glare screen option.
Speaking of which.... why are apple's most portable machines all without anti-glare? If you're likely to use a machine outside or somewhere that there is likely to be glare, surely its more likely to be PORTABLE?
My 2c?
Get rid of the optical drive, double the number of memory slots and fill the remaining space with battery.
Maybe ditch the firewire port, and upgrade the USB to 3.0. Maybe add a second thunderbolt port? Memory card slot = meh. It can go.
Anything else being removed would be a compromise that a real workhorse machine can't deal with.
Correct - my bad, the 13" MBA does have an SD slot and while not a IPS screen the MBP is a higher quality (but lower resolution) screen than the MBA. As a person with "crappy" eyes and having used both, the difference is very clear. For the SD slot I meant to write Security slot, which in my environment is crucial.
As far as RAM goes, it doesn't have an option from Apple or even 3rd party now. Maybe it will in the next revision, maybe it won't but the 13" MBP has the 3rd party option now.
I think you'll be surprised when you see a ultra-light and ultra-thin 15" and 17" model with a quad-core CPU and dedicated GPU.
I would indeed, especially given that (a) Intel doesn't have a ULV quad-core CPU slated for Ivy Bridge (at least not one that I'm aware of), (b) there isn't such thing as a ULV dedicated GPU (yet), and (c) Even if any of these existed, there's no way that they'd all fit on a logic board as narrow as that of a would-be 15" or 17" MacBook Air. Unless you know something I don't. Otherwise, I admire your fantasies.
It doesn't have an option I think precisely because it is soldered onto the logic board. Apple probably doesn't sell a whole lot of 8 GB MBPs, but them being upgradeable means they don't have to have a bunch of logic boards with 8 GB stuck to them that they can't sell.
There's nothing preventing higher RAM numbers in the MBA but Apple being afraid of getting stuck with a stock of logic boards they can't sell.
I'd really like to know where these rumors of an Air-like MacBook Pro are coming from. Sure, slimming down the chassis is the next logical step for Apple to take, but where is the concrete evidence? Has there even been a leaked document or quote from an Apple-insider stating that a redesign of the Macbook Pro is coming, let alone a leaked picture or component? I'm not saying that I don't think Apple will ever redesign the Pro, I just think that these "rumors" are fabrications or "link-bait" as some call it.
The logic board in the Air is not any narrower than the logic board in the Pro. And my Penryn MacBook Air uses a Low-Voltage CPU, not a ULV CPU.
