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- 25 MHz beast processing power
- RAM up to 28 MB
- HDD 80 MB, for pros'
- New improved battery life: 2.5 hours

Wow, technology moves really fast.:eek:
 
I sure hope that there will be 13'' Macbook Pro with Quad-Core cuz I want one 13'' for school and Air won't cut it.

If the vocal minority here had there way the 2012 MBP's will have less power than the 2011 models, but they'll be a tiny bit thinner and shaped like an ugly door wedge.

Luckily, Apple isn't as stupid as its fans, the MBP line is a high end laptop line and Apple won't burn that market segment.
 

This will be hard to resist:

Quad core i-chip,
HD4000
8GB ram
Thunderbolt

All in all, compared to my MacBook:

Approx 3 times as fast *
Half the weight
3 times better graphics
Double the RAM
10 times faster external port
Roughly £300 more retail price.
Half the HD space.

* my MacBook scored about 3000 on geekbench, current 2011 MBA score about 6000, and a quad core Sandy Bridge MBA ** maybe 9000

** assuming that we actually get a quad core MBA ...


One thing I am completely sure about: MB Airs *won't* get quad-core CPUs anytime soon - at least not until Haswell (or maybe even until Rockwell) chips are released. Why? Because APUs in current Airs have 17W TDP but Ivy Bridge quads' TDP starts at 35 Watts. In case of possible 15" Air, I assume that the maximal suitable TDP would be as high as 25W, but still - not enough for Quad-core.

Air's cooling simply couldn't handle such amount of heat... Keep dreaming, maybe next year.
 
I posted in the last thread as well, but given this news:
Is it stupid to be a macbook pro 15 inch matte now given this news? Im going away for 2 months to thailand the 3rd of MARCH 2012 and I dont have a laptop yet...
 
Pro?

Ivy Bridge is not ready for mac pro for a while. Its a strange world. Intel releases their new technology in mid-end machines before high-end. I gave up to buy a mac pro and build my a hackintosh since I refuse to buy obsolete technology for a high-end price. A over clocked i7. The best machine I have had. No thunderbolt , but no need for it now. And saves me 2000 USD.
 
Professional processors out just in time for OS X Twitter.

hahah!
so true.
I have a quad i7 2.4ghz mbp with 8gb ram and i barely use it. for my daily computing task, my A5 with 512mb ram suffices lol
those super processors are now serving the niche market - the photoshoppers, the audio engineers and the video editors.
 
Disagree. I am pretty sure that basic 13" MBP is the best-selling Pro whatsoever. Apple doesn't have any reason to discontinue it.

There are many people who prefer powerful mobile machine over stylish thin "ultrabook". Also, the possibility of implementing quad-core Ivy-Brigde inside 13" MBP makes the difference between Pro and Air even bigger => gives Apple one less reason to kill this line.



As Intel is going to release 35W Quad-core CPU, introduction the QC 13" Macbook is more likely than ever.


I really hope Quad-core 2.1Ghz 3612QM for next MBP 13" (maybe in the top end)...
I personally don't care about any redesign (fashion look, thinner etc..)
I only want more power :cool: and a better screen resolution (1280 x 800 is very very bad for every pro app)

My desire for 13" MBP IVY BRIDGE:

I7 dual core for low end config / Quad-core - 3612 QM for high end
8gb ram (standard base config)
Integrated GPU( HD4000)
Higher screen resolution

;)

Bye

Andrea
 
I would like to see anti-glare options on every Apple screen.

Yeah, this might be a bit off topic in this thread but here's another huge vote for anti-glare. Apple, you reading this?? It's hard to use large iMac screens in an office with lights, near a window, etc. These are work machines for some users and we're not watching movies, we're editing documents, photos, etc.

The only one of our staff who disagrees, whose computer faces away from lights and windows, says, "If anything it's to my benefit because I use it as a mirror."

Point made?
 
Ivy Bridge is not ready for mac pro for a while. Its a strange world. Intel releases their new technology in mid-end machines before high-end. I gave up to buy a mac pro and build my a hackintosh since I refuse to buy obsolete technology for a high-end price. A over clocked i7. The best machine I have had. No thunderbolt , but no need for it now. And saves me 2000 USD.
Intel has been releasing the mainstream desktop and mobile platforms first for some time now.

Nehalem showed up first on the LGA 1366/X58 line up but that would be considered a test for the later Xeon derivatives on an entirely new architecture. Lynnfield/Clarksfield were nearly a year later there.
 
The logic board in the Air is not any narrower than the logic board in the Pro. And my Penryn MacBook Air uses a Low-Voltage CPU, not a ULV CPU. ;)

Horizontally, no, it's not narrower. Vertically, on the other hand, it's way narrower. It is a way smaller logic board than is on the MacBook Pros. Just look at any of the service manuals or tear-downs and you'll see what I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure your MacBook Air's CPU is considered "ULV"; I know that the CPUs currently in the MacBook Air are considered that. Unless I'm just getting terms mixed up here. Even if I am, the point behind it still stands; you are using a lower-voltage CPU than what was used on the other Penryn-based Macs, and in turn, there isn't a slated "lower-voltage" quad-core CPU from Ivy Bridge that we know of in the pipeline; therefore, yes, when the Air-like ultra-light, ultra-thin mythical MacBook Pros come out with quad-core and a discrete GPU, I'll be shocked sideways.

I purchased a 15" MacBook Pro around this time last year so I'm not really in the market, but I'm ready to see some redesigned MacBook Pros! :D

No, you're not. We had six years with the last design, and pending design flaws with the current, it may be another two before you seen the next (given that only three and a half have passed since this one was introduced and it's still well-loved).

I believe that Ivy Bridge supports USB 3; will the next generation of Macs come with USB 3?

It's not that Ivy Bridge supports USB 3, it's that the chipsets to be unveiled for Ivy Bridge will have native support for it, and given that Apple wanted to wait until Intel had native support before implementing it themselves, it's a safe bet that we'll see it next round.

Bring on a new mini.

I used to look at it as a kind of sad stepchild of the Apple line, but the value in that little box is now amazing. If you have a monitor, why bother with anything else? I just wish they'd soup up the mini a bit more for a bit more cash, so it has the video/processor power of the iMac, but sans screen and optical and all the trim. 'Course I wish they also trimmed down the Pro Tower, now that TB allows much of that box to be purchased separately as peripherals nowadays.

If you analyze the mini from a purely hardware muscle perspective, it's actually a terrible deal as you're paying the cost of a laptop to get its components in a box that doesn't come with a battery, screen, or integrated keyboard/trackpad and isn't portable. Within the context of Apple-branded Macs, it's fantastic, but within the context of desktops as a whole, it's kind of a rip-off.

I can't wait to log in here and see a headline about iMac release events! My wife and I have a 2006 white MB and a 2007 MBP respectively and they are both failing hard (upgraded hard drives, and memory, replaced batteries twice on each, frequently clear PRAM and repair permissions, and still can hardly keep up with routine processing) and are eagerly awaiting the upgrade. Don't need a laptop anymore. iPad 3 and a new iMac thank you very much.

Any ideas on how soon these chips will find their way into an iMac and into my home? I hope it isn't too many more months. The wait is killing me. At least it looks like the iPad is go within a month.

iMacs are unreliable due to their cramming of desktop components into such a thin design. (Hence specialized firmware on the hard drives that (a) use the drive's built-in temperature sensors to monitor heat and report it to the logic board and (b) make it so you can't use an aftermarket hard drive.) They are due for a design change coming up here, but in the meantime, the current design. Plus best of luck doing any kind of service on that thing on your own. The specs are nice, but it's horribly designed.
 
If there is Retina 15" MBA with these Ivy Bridge CPUs, I just may take the plunge and upgrade my 15" MBP. I didn't intend on it, even though my MBP is 4 years old, but what I propose would be tempting...
 
Horizontally, no, it's not narrower. Vertically, on the other hand, it's way narrower. It is a way smaller logic board than is on the MacBook Pros. Just look at any of the service manuals or tear-downs and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I don't see the "way smaller". I see different shaped :

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It's too bad the images are not up to scale. The lower one is actually as large as a 13" MacBook while the upper one is only half length. In the end, the surface area is about the same, look at the connectors to see that the MBA's is simply to a smaller scale.

Remember kids : the MBP has an optical drive taking up a lot of space.

I'm pretty sure your MacBook Air's CPU is considered "ULV";

Then you're pretty wrong. Look up the SL9400.

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If you analyze the mini from a purely hardware muscle perspective, it's actually a terrible deal as you're paying the cost of a laptop to get its components in a box that doesn't come with a battery, screen, or integrated keyboard/trackpad and isn't portable. Within the context of Apple-branded Macs, it's fantastic, but within the context of desktops as a whole, it's kind of a rip-off.

Because you don't value SFF PCs doesn't mean they are a rip-off. The Mini is quite competitive in the space of SFF PCs.
 
I have it on good authority that tomorrow is the day the new iMacs are dropping! Perfect timing!

this is entirely made up. Unless tomorrow is the day. In that case... CALLED IT!
 
I don't see the "way smaller". I see different shaped :

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2sAFILZWQrMcISoJ.large


It's too bad the images are not up to scale. The lower one is actually as large as a 13" MacBook while the upper one is only half length. In the end, the surface area is about the same, look at the connectors to see that the MBA's is simply to a smaller scale.

Remember kids : the MBP has an optical drive taking up a lot of space.

Having actually held both logic boards in my hand at work as part of my job, those pictures are more or less to scale with each other. Also, look at how much smaller the CPU and IGP/Chipset-chip are on the Air's logic board than it is on the MBP's. The Air's MLB has substantially less surface area than the MBP's. The optical drive has no bearing on this as it's not like Apple would make the MLB larger than it is currently on the MBP.


Then you're pretty wrong. Look up the SL9400.

I'll put it this way, it's a physically smaller chip, running at a substantially lower clock speed, lower voltage or not is almost irrelevant to the original point at this point. Though I'm pretty sure that it does run at a lower voltage than the Penryn chips used in the last White MacBook, the Mid 2010 MacBook Pro, and the Mid 2010 Mac mini. The chip in your Air came from the same family of CPUs as the other Mid 2010 Penryn-based Macs, but it wasn't at all the same class of CPU.

Because you don't value SFF PCs doesn't mean they are a rip-off. The Mini is quite competitive in the space of SFF PCs.

Small form factor PCs for being desktop computers and only offering up reduced space in exchange for lesser performance for a greater cost is my definition of a rip-off. Within the context of the form factor, fine, it is competitive, but that form factor, as a a whole, in terms of performance and the specs that you are paying for, for a desktop, is a rip-off. However Apple doesn't give you the alternatives at the low-end that other manufacturers give. It's Mac mini or nothing.
 
I just hope that the new MBP still have a dedicated graphics card as the Intel ones are rubbish with dealing with even slight gaming and also under stress from architectural programs. I hope it cones out before end of may as will be buying in Australia through the business before I return to the UK
 
I have it on good authority that tomorrow is the day the new iMacs are dropping! Perfect timing!

this is entirely made up. Unless tomorrow is the day. In that case... CALLED IT!

I pitty da fool who plays with my emoticons. :mad: i mean emotions.:(;)
I have blind hopefulness. If tomorrow passes and there is no refresh (as one user put it in here) I will be a sad panda.
 
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