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Most useless thread ever. There is no definition or parameters on what overrated means.

But since this thread seems to go on and on, I will feed its hunger.

Elvis is the very definition of overrated. He was an overrated performer who made billions off of other musician's compositions. He was an awful actor. I even liked some songs...but they come from fat Elvis days:

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Overall...the most overrared in my opinion ( which is the very thing that makes this thread useless).
 
Wow this thread is very popular. Sadly, U2 seems to be on the losing end in terms of user's opinions. Since they are getting attacked so much, it must mean they are doing something right (i.e. making the best music in rock and roll history). We all know they are not "over-rated" whatever that may mean. Maybe some of you don't like them because they are so popular, or maybe because of Bono's publicity. Just remember, there are three other talented people in the band even though he may get most of the credit or attention. :apple:
 
Overall...the most overrared in my opinion ( which is the very thing that makes this thread useless).

Nonsense - the vast majority of the threads on this forum (and any other) purporting to be an objective discussion actually consist mostly of opinion...at least this thread is open about its subjectivity. ;)
 
Sadly, U2 seems to be on the losing end in terms of user's opinions. Since they are getting attacked so much, it must mean they are doing something right (i.e. making the best music in rock and roll history).

I like U2... (obviously the older stuff more) but your post is exactly why people say they are overrated. You are clearly overrating them. :)
 
Umm... Green Day. Worst singer, worst songs, and yet they still got to play at a superbowl, a grammy awards show, and in the simpsons movie??

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for the Beatles, Radiohead, and Rolling Stones.
IMO - all three bands changed the course of Rock and Roll, for better or for worse and have created sounds that many bands still "copy" today.
 
It often gets voted as number one in favourite polls, but for me it's utter bollocks.

'Imagine no possessions' - penned by a man who had an air conditioned room for his fur coats. What a load of bollocks.

He was making art, not submitting a proposal for a new form of government to the UN. Almost every musician writes about how they dream they'd like they world to be, rather than how their real life is. Have you ever heard a hip hop song? Rap MCs are the kings of ********ting about how they live their life!

You can't count a person's personal life details against your opinion of how good you think their creations are. Frank Lloyd Wright was a disharmonious ******, yet his creations are incredibly harmonious.
 
It often gets voted as number one in favourite polls, but for me it's utter bollocks.

'Imagine no possessions' - penned by a man who had an air conditioned room for his fur coats. What a load of bollocks.
That's why he said 'imagine'. For you to imagine not him.

He was making art, not submitting a proposal for a new form of government to the UN. Almost every musician writes about how they dream they'd like they world to be, rather than how their real life is. Have you ever heard a hip hop song? Rap MCs are the kings of ********ting about how they live their life!

You can't count a person's personal life details against your opinion of how good you think their creations are. Frank Lloyd Wright was a disharmonious ******, yet his creations are incredibly harmonious.
Yes you can. That's why it's an opinion. Besides are you saying life doesn't affect his art? Of course it does, that's why you include it in the equation.

Now Mozart is "overrated?"

I think somebody just hammered the last nails in the coffin of this thread.
No, I'll do it. Johann Sebastian Bach is overrated. There I said it.
 
That's why he said 'imagine'. For you to imagine not him.

He was making art, not submitting a proposal for a new form of government to the UN. Almost every musician writes about how they dream they'd like they world to be, rather than how their real life is. Have you ever heard a hip hop song? Rap MCs are the kings of ********ting about how they live their life!

You can't count a person's personal life details against your opinion of how good you think their creations are. Frank Lloyd Wright was a disharmonious ******, yet his creations are incredibly harmonious.


Yes you can. That's why it's an opinion.

Oh sure, you can base your opinion on anything you like, it just makes you opinion on his music invalid. If you're basing your opinion about his music on anything other than the way it sounds, then your opinion on it bears no meaningful weight. Which is fine, there's no law against it. When you audition for a music school they put a curtain between the performer and the judges, because if you're really just judging a person's music then you have to separate it completely from who the person is.

Besides are you saying life doesn't affect his art? Of course it does, that's why you include it in the equation.

I never said anything remotely close to what you're trying to extrapolate from my statement. Regardless, it still does not make a single iota of difference what went on in his life in order for him to produce his art the way he did, the only thing that we're measuring is how good we think his music is.

If you want to say you don't like that his music was different than his life, then that's a totally valid opinion, but it's an opinion on what you think of him as a person, not an opinion on how good his music is. If you personally can't separate the two things, that doesn't mean they are the same.

Personally, I think he has a few really great songs, but overall I think most of his music is junk.
 
Nirvana was good, don't get me wrong. What turned me off was how people who didn't give a damn about them before 1994 suddenly started talking about them as if they were one of the best bands of all time and how sad they were that Kurt died. It was pathetic, and that's the kind of hype that makes me put them in the "over-hyped" category.

I guess I can see where you're coming from with that, but think about all the coverage that came after it. Maybe it convinced some people to listen to the music who had never given it a chance before. And take me, I was really young in the early 90's (I was born the year their first CD came out) and didn't listen to the radio, but as I got older I discovered Nirvana (and didn't know they were so popular as they are, believe it or not) and they became one of my favorite bands. But if these people are just talking about Nevermind, you're right. Nevermind is a good album, but it's not as good as the other two studio albums they put out.


And as for me, I'm torn between not horrible but given too much credit U2 and absolute crap like Nickelback, Three Doors Down, and Creed, who are all lumped together because they might as well be the same band for how much alike they sound. It boggles my mind that they are making money off the slop they shovel out.
 
Limp Bizkit. Not that they were terrible but I think they really made things bad for semi related bands who were much more talented. And this fits overhyped too, but they wre given too much credit for a lack of creativity. At least Korn has had some talent. Say what you will but I think that is the only rock band that could incorporate bagpipes in a song and it actually sound pretty goo.

as for under rated and underhyped(at least in the states) Matthew Good. I may not agree with him on everything but he does have a real musical talent there. Also this does not apply to canadians, as they know him or are in a cave all there lives(apparently)
 
As a sub-topic of this thread, I was wondering if people wanted to clarify how they personally define overrated?

For example, some of the music that has been mentioned in the previous pages as overrated was:

The Beatles

Black Lips

Mozart

Hannah Montana

Now, I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying that each of the folks who nominated these acts was using different criteria.

Is overrated a band that doesn't deserve the sales it generates but that isn't really regarded as particularly talented (like an N-Sync or Ace of Base)?

Or is it musicians that don't deserve the attention they receive, even if very few people know about them (like a Daniel Johnson or Heatmiser)?

Or is it something else entirely?
 
It often gets voted as number one in favourite polls, but for me it's utter bollocks.

'Imagine no possessions' - penned by a man who had an air conditioned room for his fur coats. What a load of bollocks.

That's hilarious! I had no idea. I guess he meant no possessions (except for fur coats and an air-conditioned room in which to store them).
 
Duff-Man ays...okay, what the heck, I'll toss my few names in without having read all the pages of the thread...as with anything in the arts it is of course subject to individual taste and there's really no right or wrong, just individual opinion......oh yeah!

Led Zeppelin
U2
Radiohead
Grateful Dead
Nirvana
 
David Gilmore did it first--see "One Of These Days", "Run Like Hell", etc.
My point wasn't that the Edge used that type of delay first, my point was the Edge did it to such an extreme -- and on so many songs -- that it became "the U2 sound". So much so that anyone new using the same technique is now automatically accused of trying to "sound like U2".

FWIW, I've broken down and analyzed about a dozen Gilmour guitar solos. The guy is a freakin' genius (and Rick Wright with the chord voicings, amazing!)!!!
 
Beatles, hands down most overrated.
U2 jumped the shark around 1990.
Oasis, all they did was rip off the Beatles and didn't even try to hide it
KISS
Aerosmith post-1990
Nine Inch Nails
Nirvana, probably the second most overrated band of all time.

Most overrated song of all time, Jimi Hendrix star-spangled banner from Woodstock.
"Miss American Pie" by Don McLean may actually be the most overrated song, though. It's pretty terrible.
 
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