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Specs don't matter as much for an iPhone because Apple prices it based on user experience, app support, and manufacturer support. Motorola might believe the Moto X offers the best Android user experience and thus could price a phone with only decent specs at $200 off contract.







The Moto X will not have a 3000 mAh battery. If you are expecting that, then expect to be disappointed. Multiple rumors have pegged it at 2000-2100.
Specs don't matter on the iPhone because the hardware works in concert with the software. As we've seen with several Android devices, the best hardware can't always make buggy software buttery smooth like the iPhone.
 
Just saw this on The Verge,

The Moto X will always be listening, pretty similar to the Xbox One.

I find it pretty cool, but creepy as well. Hopefully it can be turned off.

 
Damn, that video is mouthwatering. I hope the final specs get leaked soon as well. Such a shame this phone is going to be a mid-range one.

EDIT: I expect this phone to be at least faster than Nexus 4, which has been out for almost a year.
 
Just saw this on The Verge,

The Moto X will always be listening, pretty similar to the Xbox One.

I find it pretty cool, but creepy as well. Hopefully it can be turned off.

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This actually sounds very promising. The phone is always on and updating in the background anyway...receiving email, texts..calls and so forth. The voice activation is just a trigger. The modern smartphone uses multiple triggers already to launch apps. The voice triggers look very very promising. I know there is a lot more to come. But I wonder about the battery life. Voice recognition where there are more background noise like say the TV or others in the room speaking as well. I don't think this phone needs to have the latest and greatest specs to be successful. It does not need to be the fastest phone spec wise. It just needs to deliver one its promises.....

On another note.....this kind of voice recognition software has many many uses. Can you imagine a TV product that can be trained to use multiple voice profiles? You can tell it to open the channel guide. Change channels...or even tell it to switch to your favorite program when it comes on...or remind you it is about to start on another channel than the one you are watching at the time.
There are a LOT of uses for voice recognition software that can truly work.....
 
This actually sounds very promising. The phone is always on and updating in the background anyway...receiving email, texts..calls and so forth. The voice activation is just a trigger. The modern smartphone uses multiple triggers already to launch apps. The voice triggers look very very promising. I know there is a lot more to come. But I wonder about the battery life. Voice recognition where there are more background noise like say the TV or others in the room speaking as well. I don't think this phone needs to have the latest and greatest specs to be successful. It does not need to be the fastest phone spec wise. It just needs to deliver one its promises.....

On another note.....this kind of voice recognition software has many many uses. Can you imagine a TV product that can be trained to use multiple voice profiles? You can tell it to open the channel guide. Change channels...or even tell it to switch to your favorite program when it comes on...or remind you it is about to start on another channel than the one you are watching at the time.
There are a LOT of uses for voice recognition software that can truly work.....

The midrange specs could be to help with battery life. I would imagine "always" being on would drain battery so they had to to do something.
 
Specs and performance can be mutually exclusive--that's the point that was being made.

In a straight specs comparison, the iPhone does have subpar specs when compared to the latest Android devices. Dual core vs. quad core (and octocore) CPU, 1 GB vs. 2 GB RAM, 1440 mAh vs. 2300-2600 mAh battery--huge gaps on paper. Yet in real world performance, the gaps (if any) is much smaller.

The point being made is specs are meaningless if the real world performance and user experience is competitive. I don't care what's under the hood if it performs. So while the rumored specs aren't blowing us away, let's wait and see what real world use is like.

I'm personally very skeptical as Android, while improving, still doesn't have a great history of efficiency--have needed top notch specs to produce a good user experience. Here's hoping Moto has figured out something new.

A better dual core isn't subpar compared to an inferior quad core (and please, don't tell me you buy that Octo core nonsense).

Similarly, the battery is small because the phone is small. Proportionally it doesn't come as subpar either.
 
Very exciting device and new software features.

"Okay Google Now" is a great idea. Truly hands free.

I'm sorry, Apple. But Google is pushing software so much farther and faster with Google Now alone (not to mention with Maps, too).

This is the first time I'm excited about the Moto X phone.

PS. This makes me very excited about the new Nexus 7 too.

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Re: creepiness.

I don't find it creepy at all that it's listening.

Have you guys ever watched Star Trek? :D
 
We will see how useful always on voice will be on this phone.

Clearly to be able to be made in the United States they are expecting to sell that many. In any case the unibody design in leaked picture looks drooling :D
 
My concern with voice commands is if you are with someone who has the same phone, will you accidentally activate each others phones? I guess in that situation you'd be unable to use voice commands.
 
My concern with voice commands is if you are with someone who has the same phone, will you accidentally activate each others phones? I guess in that situation you'd be unable to use voice commands.

I bet there are options to change the command. I also think it probably can recognize your voice.
 
I hope it, at least, matches the One and GS4 in terms of specs. If not, why even bother?

Because there's way more to a phone than specs. I, for one, hope that the Moto X comes with a 720p display not a 1080p one, the difference is too small, but the hit on processor and battery is too big. I, and am sure many others, care more about the experience rather than "number of cores".

Look at the S4 and how it lags. Optimization > CPU
 
Because there's way more to a phone than specs. I, for one, hope that the Moto X comes with a 720p display not a 1080p one, the difference is too small, but the hit on processor and battery is too big.

The 1080p-screened GS4 lasts a day easily.

Look at the S4 and how it lags. Optimization > CPU

Oh please. That was patched up a week after release. The GS4 is completely fine now.

If the rumors of a $600+ price tag are true, this phone can't compete with the likes of Samsung and HTC. It needs to be sold at a discount to match its inferior specs, like the Nexus 4.

Hopefully, Moto doesn't let us down. I would love to support Motorola!
 
Because there's way more to a phone than specs. I, for one, hope that the Moto X comes with a 720p display not a 1080p one, the difference is too small, but the hit on processor and battery is too big. I, and am sure many others, care more about the experience rather than "number of cores".

Look at the S4 and how it lags. Optimization > CPU

hmmmm. my S4 does not lag......
 
A better dual core isn't subpar compared to an inferior quad core (and please, don't tell me you buy that Octo core nonsense).

Similarly, the battery is small because the phone is small. Proportionally it doesn't come as subpar either.

So now you believe the iPhone has top level specs? :rolleyes:

Not going to argue, especially as this discussion isn't about the iPhone or any other device. The point be made is that specs can be meaningless--it's the real world experience that matters and before we announce the Moto X DOA based on its 'rumored' midrange specs, lets see how it performs.

I'm skeptical, but will reserve judgement until we can see it in action.
 
The 1080p-screened GS4 lasts a day easily.



Oh please. That was patched up a week after release. The GS4 is completely fine now.

If the rumors of a $600+ price tag are true, this phone can't compete with the likes of Samsung and HTC. It needs to be sold at a discount to match its inferior specs, like the Nexus 4.

Hopefully, Moto doesn't let us down. I would love to support Motorola!

From what I've seen, it still lags and chokes on the most basic stuff like scrolling through contacts, or pictures in gallery, etc.
 
I'm sorry, Apple. But Google is pushing software so much farther and faster with Google Now alone (not to mention with Maps, too).

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I'm sorry, I must've missed the post made by Apple earlier in the thread that you meant to quote....or any other post comparing iOS or the iPhone and the Moto X, for that matter.
 
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I'm sorry, I must've missed the post made by Apple earlier in the thread that you meant to quote....or any other post comparing iOS or the iPhone and the Moto X, for that matter.

Highlighting one area of my post for a topic you don't want to discuss... Do you know how to forum? :rolleyes:

Anyway, iOS 7 was just previewed with new Siri features; people often say Siri is a closer to hands-free experience than Google Now is, etc. Totally relevant.

You don't care to discuss this, that's a-okay, though again, odd you'd highlight it. Gasp -- look, other people are mentioning the S4 in this thread. How dare they.
 
"Okay Google Now" is a great idea. Truly hands free.

Too bad many Google Now operations still require touch input for completion. Try sending a text without using your hands, or setting a reminder, or sending an email, or creating a calendar event. And these are just the first ones to come to mind. There are many more.

These are the things I do most with my voice. And all of which you can't fully do with your voice. Google Now is far from hands free. The Moto X implementation is just eliminating the need to use the touch screen to start listening. Not eliminating the need to use the touch screen to complete a task. Google Now requires too much touch input to work. And isn't the purpose of voice commands to do everything by, you know, voice?

Siri, although she has some issues as well, can do all of the previously mentioned things without ever once requiring touch input. And that is something I miss about iOS. Plus Google Now reminders are total crap compared to iOS reminders in the sense that going back to view all current reminders is a pain. Swipe up to google now > hit the menu button > hit settings > hit my stuff > hit reminders. 5 steps. iOS? Just hit the reminders app... Google should at least incorporate time-based reminders into Google calendar if they are going to make it a pain to view your reminders.
 
Too bad many Google Now operations still require touch input for completion. Try sending a text without using your hands, or setting a reminder, or sending an email, or creating a calendar event. And these are just the first ones to come to mind. There are many more.

These are the things I do most with my voice. And all of which you can't fully do with your voice. Google Now is far from hands free. The Moto X implementation is just eliminating the need to use the touch screen to start listening. Not eliminating the need to use the touch screen to complete a task. Google Now requires too much touch input to work. And isn't the purpose of voice commands to do everything by, you know, voice?

Siri, although she has some issues as well, can do all of the previously mentioned things without ever once requiring touch input. And that is something I miss about iOS. Plus Google Now reminders are total crap compared to iOS reminders in the sense that going back to view all current reminders is a pain. Swipe up to google now > hit the menu button > hit settings > hit my stuff > hit reminders. 5 steps. iOS? Just hit the reminders app... Google should at least incorporate time-based reminders into Google calendar if they are going to make it a pain to view your reminders.

To be honest, I don't use Google Now enough to know all this other than for searches. Fair enough. I stand corrected; Siri is closer to hands-free than Google Now.
 
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I'm sorry, I must've missed the post made by Apple earlier in the thread that you meant to quote....or any other post comparing iOS or the iPhone and the Moto X, for that matter.

If you're gonna be in this dark corner of MacRumors forums, you're going to have to get used to people taking every chance they get to bash iOS.
 
I just tried some and the Google Now experience definitely feels like it stops dead in the tracks. Didn't Google Now use to have a loading bar that would automatically execute the action if you waited long enough? Did they get rid of that?
 
I just tried some and the Google Now experience definitely feels like it stops dead in the tracks. Didn't Google Now use to have a loading bar that would automatically execute the action if you waited long enough? Did they get rid of that?

Another testament to Google's inconsistency. That only comes up with calling people and navigation AFAIK.

But it doesn't speak back to you to let you know it is calling the correct person. With Siri, it will say something like "Now calling Larry Page" or something. So you at least know if it heard you correctly. Google Now, you just have to hope it did.
 
Another testament to Google's inconsistency. That only comes up with calling people and navigation AFAIK.

But it doesn't speak back to you to let you know it is calling the correct person. With Siri, it will say something like "Now calling Larry Page" or something. So you at least know if it heard you correctly. Google Now, you just have to hope it did.

I can see where Google now could stand to be improved for sure. I guess it isn't meant to be a personal assistant like siri is.

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Actually, this is really the first time I'm exploring Google Now deeply.

It's clearly not meant to be a personal assistant like Siri. It's more about getting information to you automatically, which makes perfect sense for a company like Google.

All the voice commands feel like they're there for the extra features, and as such, I definitely can see how Google now should improve if they want these extra features taken and used seriously.
 
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