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Moto X - Designed by you. Assembled in the USA.

Looks like it still won't be truly hands free all the way with the Moto X:

http://vimeo.com/70256940#

I think Strausd is a 100% right. I don't see why Google doesn't add the time-bar-to-execute actions for all actions.

Likewise, i don't see why Google doesn't add the double-tap-hold to zoom in/out (that's on Google Maps) to the entire OS -- something I've mentioned multiple times in the past (since its first implementation, in fact).
 
onthecouchagain said:
Highlighting one area of my post for a topic you don't want to discuss... Do you know how to forum? :rolleyes:

Anyway, iOS 7 was just previewed with new Siri features; people often say Siri is a closer to hands-free experience than Google Now is, etc. Totally relevant.

You don't care to discuss this, that's a-okay, though again, odd you'd highlight it. Gasp -- look, other people are mentioning the S4 in this thread. How dare they.
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No, I highlighted the part of your post that was completely irrelevant to the thread topic, nothing more. It wasn't a topic I didnt want to discuss--it was a topic nobody other than you wanted to discuss. Neither the OP, or any other poster has made a comparison of these new features to iOS or Siri--solely you chastising Apple all by yourself, again for something that was not brought up previously. You replied to a statement that was never made. Highlight EXACTLY where this point was previously made in this thread and I'll stand corrected. Otherwise, your statement was simply nothing more than troll bait, meant to get a rise out of anyone willing to come to Apple's defense. Well, clearly you got your wish, at least on the first part...

Highlighting one area of my post for a topic you don't want to discuss... Do you know how to forum? :rolleyes:
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I do, but it's pretty clear you don't. From the posted forum rules as instantly bannable offenses:

7. Trolling. Do not post in order to anger other members or intentionally cause negative reactions. For a given post, this can be a subjective call, but a pattern of such posting or an especially egregious case will get you banned.
Advertising/soliciting/self-promotion
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people often say Siri is a closer to hands-free experience than Google Now is, etc. Totally relevant.
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Well people may say that somewhere, at sometime. Problem was, NOBODY said it here, thus, totally irrelevant.
 
tbayrgs said:
No, I highlighted the part of your post that was completely irrelevant to the thread topic, nothing more. It wasn't a topic I didnt want to discuss--it was a topic nobody other than you wanted to discuss. Neither the OP, or any other poster has made a comparison of these new features to iOS or Siri--solely you chastising Apple all by yourself, again for something that was not brought up previously. You replied to a statement that was never made. Highlight EXACTLY where this point was previously made in this thread and I'll stand corrected. Otherwise, your statement was simply nothing more than troll bait, meant to get a rise out of anyone willing to come to Apple's defense. Well, clearly you got your wish, at least on the first part...



I do, but it's pretty clear you don't. From the posted forum rules as instantly bannable offenses:





Well people may say that somewhere, at sometime. Problem was, NOBODY said it here, thus, totally irrelevant.
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Straus and I had a perfectly fine discussion about Google Now vs. Siri. Don't see the problem.

You've never heard more than one topic discussed in a thread before? Seriously, you're not new to forums, so please stop the act. Ironically, you're veering the conversation even further away. Not that I mind. It's your choice.
 
The problem with Siri is I have to touch the phone for it to start listening, and then after I do something I have to touch it again for it to start listening again. When I'm in my car I don't want to touch my phone at all. The Moto X implementation has the potential to be much better as Google Now matures.
 
Lava Lamp Freak said:
The problem with Siri is I have to touch the phone for it to start listening, and then after I do something I have to touch it again for it to start listening again. When I'm in my car I don't want to touch my phone at all. The Moto X implementation has the potential to be much better as Google Now matures.
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Yeah. I think Reminders and such can wait when you're driving. Google Now gives you a few things that execute automatically when driving, like looking up directions, making calls.

Still, Straus is right. There should be an option to have the actions launch all the way from one command for all features. Then again, Google Now isn't a personal assistant and I don't think was/is advertised as such (is it?).

You're both right in some ways. I can definitely see where Google Now can stand to be improved, even if it's not meant to be like Siri.
 
onthecouchagain said:
Straus and I had a perfectly fine discussion about Google Now vs. Siri. Don't see the problem. You've never heard more than one topic discussed in a thread before? Seriously, you're not new to forums, so please stop the act.
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You're absolutely right couch, what was I thinking? I keep forgetting your point of view is always correct, silly me. :rolleyes:
 
Straus is also right about uniformity throughout the Android OS. And not just for the sake of it, but because some of the features found elsewhere would be very useful for other apps/usage.

I've mentioned a ton of times that Google should make the double-tap-and-hold to zoom in and out a feature throughout the entire OS. As devices get larger, it just makes sense.
 
onthecouchagain said:
Yeah. I think Reminders and such can wait when you're driving. Google Now gives you a few things that execute automatically when driving, like looking up directions, making calls.

Still, Straus is right. There should be an option to have the actions launch all the way from one command for all features. Then again, Google Now isn't a personal assistant and I don't think was/is advertised as such (is it?).

You're both right in some ways. I can definitely see where Google Now can stand to be improved, even if it's not meant to be like Siri.
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My hope is that eventually our phones will truly be personal assistants. I want to be able to lay in my bed and say, without touching the phone, "Set bedroom ceiling fan to high." Or say, "Turn off all lights upstairs." With Wi-Fi already available in the new Philips lights, combined with an always-listening phone, this could possible very soon. That is why I'm excited about this phone. Eventually this type of tech will be common. I'm just excited to see it happening.
 
Lava Lamp Freak said:
My hope is that eventually our phones will truly be personal assistants. I want to be able to lay in my bed and say, without touching the phone, "Set bedroom ceiling fan to high." Or say, "Turn off all lights upstairs." With Wi-Fi already available in the new Philips lights, combined with an always-listening phone, this could possible very soon. That is why I'm excited about this phone. Eventually this type of tech will be common. I'm just excited to see it happening.
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Agreed. The future is coming.
 
Lava Lamp Freak said:
The problem with Siri is I have to touch the phone for it to start listening, and then after I do something I have to touch it again for it to start listening again. When I'm in my car I don't want to touch my phone at all. The Moto X implementation has the potential to be much better as Google Now matures.
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I'm on a Nexus 4, so all my comparisons are between that and my old iPhone 4S. And with my Nexus, I have to use the touch screen to make Google Now start listening. My iPhone, I don't have to ever look at the screen because you only have to hold down the hardware home button. And in this way, voice command on my old iPhone was way better than it currently is on my Nexus.

However, it is cool that the Moto X is always listening. So theoretically you are right in the sense that you won't have to touch your phone. But when you say you don't want to touch your phone in the car, which really is where most people will be using this and where I used Siri most, you are still required to touch your phone to complete an action. So the whole always listening kind of gets counteracted thanks to poor voice command implementation in Google Now.

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onthecouchagain said:
Straus is also right about uniformity throughout the Android OS. And not just for the sake of it, but because some of the features found elsewhere would be very useful for other apps/usage.

I've mentioned a ton of times that Google should make the double-tap-and-hold to zoom in and out a feature throughout the entire OS. As devices get larger, it just makes sense.
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In terms of double tap and hold to zoom, G+ locations is the worst. You can't even do a simple double tap to zoom. And don't even get me started on swiping gestures in various Google apps...

Another inconsistency specific to Google Now is how you can/can't say "Google" to have it start listening. Most people know that once you first pull up Google Now, you can say "Google" to start listening, assuming it hears you. But the real problem is that it only works the very first time.

Try it yourself. Open up Google Now and say "Google, what's the weather like?" Then after the answer, try saying it again. After the first time, saying "Google" no longer works. So really the only argument to semi-hands-free operation on a Nexus 4 only works 1 time.
 
I have to believe Google eventually will make Google Now all hands free considering what they're doing with Glasses. Won't that be an entirely voice-command device?
 
strausd said:
I'm on a Nexus 4, so all my comparisons are between that and my old iPhone 4S. And with my Nexus, I have to use the touch screen to make Google Now start listening. My iPhone, I don't have to ever look at the screen because you only have to hold down the hardware home button. And in this way, voice command on my old iPhone was way better than it currently is on my Nexus.

However, it is cool that the Moto X is always listening. So theoretically you are right in the sense that you won't have to touch your phone. But when you say you don't want to touch your phone in the car, which really is where most people will be using this and where I used Siri most, you are still required to touch your phone to complete an action. So the whole always listening kind of gets counteracted thanks to poor voice command implementation in Google Now.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I have an iPhone 5 now and the only time I use it in the car is to play music. With the Nexus I would set the playlist before leaving the garage. With the iPhone I can use Siri to change playlists easily, but that is the full extent I use it in the car. That is probably all I would use it for in the car anyway, but with always listening that is one less distraction.

Google Now is still young. Maybe it will get some updates this year.
 
Lava Lamp Freak said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I have an iPhone 5 now and the only time I use it in the car is to play music. With the Nexus I would set the playlist before leaving the garage. With the iPhone I can use Siri to change playlists easily, but that is the full extent I use it in the car. That is probably all I would use it for in the car anyway, but with always listening that is one less distraction.

Google Now is still young. Maybe it will get some updates this year.
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I'm sure Apple and Google will continue updating their various voice features.

But on the topic of music, using Siri to play music will actually, you know, play music. Using Google now will just open the music app to the specific band. Still requiring touch input to fully complete the action and start playback.

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onthecouchagain said:
I have to believe Google eventually will make Google Now all hands free considering what they're doing with Glasses. Won't that be an entirely voice-command device?
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Maybe it will require a blinking pattern to complete actions ;)

On a more serious note, don't some Google Glass actions require input from the touch-thingy on the side?
 
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It looks sleek, I like it and the features shown in the Rogers video are very nice. With the Moto X launching on August (rumors point to that), I think we should be seeing an official unveiling quite soon.

Can't wait, it is either Moto X or Nexu 5 for me when it is time to upgrade.
 
Evoken said:
It looks sleek, I like it and the features shown in the Rogers video are very nice. With the Moto X launching on August (rumors point to that), I think we should be seeing an official unveiling quite soon.

Can't wait, it is either Moto X or Nexu 5 for me when it is time to upgrade.
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I will be holding out for the Nexus 5. I have 2 main issues with my Nexus 4: battery life and no LTE. Luckily, when the Nexus 4 came out reviewers were quite vocal about both of these. So I am hoping these will both be fixed with the Nexus 5.
 
strausd said:
I will be holding out for the Nexus 5. I have 2 main issues with my Nexus 4: battery life and no LTE. Luckily, when the Nexus 4 came out reviewers were quite vocal about both of these. So I am hoping these will both be fixed with the Nexus 5.
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Definitely, I think we can be sure that the Nexus 5 will have LTE and given Larry Page's comments about smartphone's battery life, I think we can count on the Nexus 5 seeing an improvement on this area as well.
 
Camera could stand to get better too in the Nexus 5.

I think I'm happy enough with my HTC One to pass on both the Moto X and the Nexus 5. I'll be looking at 2014 phones personally.

But boy am I excited about what's to come, regardless. Also excited about the Nexus 7.
 
Evoken said:
Definitely, I think we can be sure that the Nexus 5 will have LTE and given Larry Page's comments about smartphone's battery life, I think we can count on the Nexus 5 seeing an improvement on this area as well.
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Do you by any chance have a link to his comments about battery life?




onthecouchagain said:
Camera could stand to get better too in the Nexus 5.

I think I'm happy enough with my HTC One to pass on both the Moto X and the Nexus 5. I'll be looking at 2014 phones personally.

But boy am I excited about what's to come, regardless. Also excited about the Nexus 7.
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I've seen rumors about the Nexus 5 having a Nikon camera inside, but who knows. I started taking pictures in HDR mode on my Nexus 4 and images look much better.
 
strausd said:
If we are going by that post then the Nexus 5 will also be water resistant and shock proof... But I doubt they will be able to accomplish that at current price points.
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Of course and the post really can't be taken as anything more than general thoughts about some of the problems that Page feels need to be tackled when it comes to smartphones. It is something they are clearly thinking about and something we will likely see on the next wave of devices from Google. Not a confirmation of anything, of course.
 
strausd said:
I will be holding out for the Nexus 5. I have 2 main issues with my Nexus 4: battery life and no LTE. Luckily, when the Nexus 4 came out reviewers were quite vocal about both of these. So I am hoping these will both be fixed with the Nexus 5.
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You'll only see LTE if an LTE radio is made that can do every band including bands not implemented yet. I think its possible but I also wouldn't bother waiting for it.

Nexus line will be a single device world phone from this point on. Unlike other phones have multiple versions for multiple regions.
 
cynics said:
You'll only see LTE if an LTE radio is made that can do every band including bands not implemented yet. I think its possible but I also wouldn't bother waiting for it.

Nexus line will be a single device world phone from this point on. Unlike other phones have multiple versions for multiple regions.
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I'm not so sure that will be the case. Google took too much criticism for not having LTE in a late 2012 "flagship" device. I think we will see LTE in the Nexus 5.
 
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