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As long as you know wasn't applauding the pré or palm and their half arsed attempts at iTunes syncing, I am happy.

That still doesn't address the innaccuracy that people spout about iTunes not syincing with Android. Just because you can't plug it in and iTunes won't detect it, it doesn't mean there aren't solutions to get your non DRM'd music on to your Android/Blackberry/Symbian (et;al) device.
 
Just because you can't plug it in and iTunes won't detect it, it doesn't mean there aren't solutions to get your non DRM'd music on to your Android/Blackberry/Symbian (et;al) device.
Sure. But to be fair, I'm aware of nothing first-party for Android that comes close to Blackberry Media Sync. Are there any Android handsets with officially supported iTunes integration?

There are lots of excellent third party utilities (DoubleTwist, Missing Sync), but how do the phones work out of the box? I do feel like syncing on Android is more complicated than with Blackberries or iPhones or Symbian/Maemo, and finding information on it online has been difficult.
 
+1 HAHA. And they call apple people fruity but that little green robot seems well..... you know. : ) Thats cool nothing wrong it by the way.

I am still in shock that goggle has fanboys. I wonder if webcrawler has some???

EDIT: Google gaga plans to have over a billion different phones released with Android by end of 2011. True story : )
How could someone be a GOOGLE fan is well beyond my understanding ...

Yes, very similar to what many iPhone owners do when a new model comes along. They also sell off their old ones and buy the new model. The only difference is in the frequency of this occurence.

Who's to say that "one year" is the mandated model update time?

If Apple were to be truly nice by your definition, they'd only bring out a new model every two years when American owners' contracts were up.
One year is an absolutely reasonable time frame for an update.

Most of the world enjoys what Flash provides. Get used to it.
OMG, how can someone say something like that ?!?
Flash is a resource hog used mainly for ads all over the web. Most of the world "undergoes" Flash because they don't know how to get rid of it (Click2Flash should be installed by default on every o.s.).

iOS is certainly less responsive on my 3Gs, when compared to Android OS on the Incredible or the EVO running 2.1 - plus Android 2.2 is measurably faster.
This is plain FALSE, and I have a Nexus One.
Are you just another fandroid ?

I like iOS UI a little better, but it's close. Android OS can also be customized to look better.
There is nothing really "open" in Android (I remind you the cease&desist letters by Google :rolleyes:), that is only marketing BS.
Customization in Android often results in a mess UI.


The EVO, with its 4.3" is larger than the iPhone, but it does not feel drastically different in the hand, or in the pocket. But the 4.3" screen makes a HUGE difference to stuff like web browsing.
That also is just false. The EVO is ugly, you can't keep it in your pocket.

Oh, and instead of blue Lego pieces, you get actual web content, too.
you can only see ads and stupid games, eating up your battery in the meanwhile ...
 
Doesn't surprise me any, I mean it's not like Apple actually manufactures the LCD screens themselves. Other firms are going to buy the screens and use them if they're available.
 
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matticus008 said:
ChazUK said:
Just because you can't plug it in and iTunes won't detect it, it doesn't mean there aren't solutions to get your non DRM'd music on to your Android/Blackberry/Symbian (et;al) device.
Sure. But to be fair, I'm aware of nothing first-party for Android that comes close to Blackberry Media Sync. Are there any Android handsets with officially supported iTunes integration?

There are lots of excellent third party utilities (DoubleTwist, Missing Sync), but how do the phones work out of the box? I do feel like syncing on Android is more complicated than with Blackberries or iPhones or Symbian/Maemo, and finding information on it online has been difficult.

I just drag and drop my media. I've tried DoubleTwist and that works okay (seems better on Windows sadly) and iSyncr which works too but the simplicity of drag and drop does it for me.



Hopefully, whatever Google has planned with Symplify Media will give a concrete Android syncing solution.



I've not had the pleasure of owning a BlackBerry so I can't comment on their sync solution but you seem impressed with it which is cool.



The truth is, for iTunes and iOS use, you simply aren't going to beat iTunes. The whole thing from the iPhone/iPod touch/iPad is simple and flawless.
 
The HDMI port can make your smartphone a portable media player that can be jacked into anyone's compatible TV. However, the size of HD movies definitely becomes a factor and you would have to have a very fast internet connection to stream anything in HD.

I assume people would be playing HD content already on their device's memory on the big screen (edited home movies shot with digital cameras and such) instead of streaming stuff over a cellular connection.

It also might be a convenience thing. Even if the output wasn't HD, an HDMI cable is a single connection that is present on many HDTV side edges. This is less work hooking up than a composite (yellow/red/white) cable and would deliver better picture quality.
 
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Custom software/addons on network branded smartphones is nothing new over here in Europe sadly.

Some of the arltrocities that networks have done in the past to my Symbian and WinMo phones were terrible. The first thing I used to do on a Nokia Symbian smartphone when I got it home was to debrand it by changing the product code to install "stock" firmwares from Nokia Software Update. I used to do similar things on my o2 XDA 2 and XDA Mini by installing custom roms from XDADevelopers.

Orange UK have installled game demos on the HTC Desire over here too judging by my friends one.

Another reason for me to stick with "clean" handsets straight from the manufacturer. :)
 
You know? Its exactly like the pc makers putting norton on your computer

It's more like the way that Apple puts a set of pre-installed apps on their phone so people have a starting point.

The enormous difference is that under Android you can remove their icons from your homescreen(s) if you don't like seeing them all the time.

Apple does not allow us to remove pre-installed homescreen icons that we don't want to see.
 
The enormous difference is that under Android you can remove their icons from your homescreen(s) if you don't like seeing them all the time.

Apple does not allow us to remove pre-installed homescreen icons that we don't want to see.
But with iOS4 you'll be able to combine them into a single "junk" folder, right? :D
 
Droid X or Droid 2 will be my next phone.

Sorry Apple, you missed out by not jumping on the Verizon train.
 
I'd really like to hear from people currently using Android phones and how they like them. I'm especially interested in how it handles media. Specifically adding and deleting music and podcasts via a Mac (not using iTunes, I know, just manually adding/deleting). I'd be using my MBP and would be downloading a daily podcast via an mp3 and then adding/deleting manually. What software program will the Droid X be using with relations to syncing with your Mac computer? Curious to also know how it handles address book/contacts. Right now it's of course super easy for me as my iPhone syncs with my address book.

I like my iPhone but there are things I find frustrating (tired of the 3.5" screen, I've had more dropped calls in less than 2 years vs. 12 years with Verizon wireless, and this is often with 5 bars). Really want to check out the Droid X when it comes out. And this is coming from a huge Mac user/fan.
 
The Droid is chasing the iPhone's a**, copying it and trying to one-up the iPhone all while basing its design, software and marketing on the iPhone's. Even my cousin who cannot even afford either touted, "The Droid is faster."

I don't care if the Droid doubles as a boat and cooks breakfast, the copy-cat OS is pathetic as are the icons.

If Apple releases another phone in addition to the iPhone, as other manufacturers have several versions, then I'm all for an alternative. But at this point in 2010, I favor the Apple OS, and the only phone with that is the iPhone.

A million flat, touch-screens that do X and Y that the iPhone "doesn't" do can bite me. Sick of it.
 
I'd really like to hear from people currently using Android phones and how they like them. I'm especially interested in how it handles media. Specifically adding and deleting music and podcasts via a Mac (not using iTunes, I know, just manually adding/deleting). I'd be using my MBP and would be downloading a daily podcast via an mp3 and then adding/deleting manually. What software program will the Droid X be using with relations to syncing with your Mac computer?

1) Go to http://www.appbrain.com/ and search on "podcast".

2) Old article: http://androinica.com/2009/09/15/6-great-tools-to-manage-podcasts-on-android/

3) Google Listen app

I'm sure there's tons more.

Curious to also know how it handles address book/contacts. Right now it's of course super easy for me as my iPhone syncs with my address book.

A lot of us moved our contacts, calendar and mail to Google. All our computers and phones (RIM, WinMo, Android, Palm, iOS) sync those items automatically.

I can even start an email on my laptop... wait a minute for the draft to sync to my phone... then finish writing, add a quick photo and send it.
 
Droid X or Droid 2 will be my next phone.

Sorry Apple, you missed out by not jumping on the Verizon train.

Aren't you the one missing out? Apple is making money hands over fist, you have to use a droid handset. Who is missing out?
 
1) Go to http://www.appbrain.com/ and search on "podcast".

2) Old article: http://androinica.com/2009/09/15/6-great-tools-to-manage-podcasts-on-android/

3) Google Listen app

I'm sure there's tons more.



A lot of us moved our contacts, calendar and mail to Google. All our computers and phones (RIM, WinMo, Android, Palm, iOS) sync those items automatically.

I can even start an email on my laptop... wait a minute for the draft to sync to my phone... then finish writing, add a quick photo and send it.

Thanks for all this. I'd have to get the definitive answers before pulling the trigger on the Droid X. First step of course is to see it in person. Excited for the big announcement tomorrow.
 
I'd really like to hear from people currently using Android phones and how they like them. I'm especially interested in how it handles media. Specifically adding and deleting music and podcasts via a Mac (not using iTunes, I know, just manually adding/deleting). I'd be using my MBP and would be downloading a daily podcast via an mp3 and then adding/deleting manually. What software program will the Droid X be using with relations to syncing with your Mac computer? Curious to also know how it handles address book/contacts. Right now it's of course super easy for me as my iPhone syncs with my address book.

I like my iPhone but there are things I find frustrating (tired of the 3.5" screen, I've had more dropped calls in less than 2 years vs. 12 years with Verizon wireless, and this is often with 5 bars). Really want to check out the Droid X when it comes out. And this is coming from a huge Mac user/fan.

after 45 days of use (nexus One) I can say Android is a decent os, but a mess if compared to iOS and iPhone.
Fandroids could say whatever they want, but it's not straightforward as iPhone and its iTunes sync environmental ...
 
There is a point where a larger screen becomes a burden. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I use my iPhone primarily as a) a phone, b) as an iPod, and c) to check email. I don't need a larger screen if it means having to carry around a larger phone. If it starts to get too big to carry in my pocket comfortably, I may as well get a small, cheap flip-phone and an iPad.

That was my thinking as well but I don't find the iPhone particularly comfortable as a phone, I rarely use this feature. But then iPhone 4 comes out with all these features and specs missing from the iPad. I guess Jobs knows how to ensure we continue to buy both :)
 
I'd really like to hear from people currently using Android phones and how they like them.

I have one, and I hate it. Though that might be because I have an Eris, which was outdated already when I bought it (I got it only because I needed a phone on Verizon and there was a buy-one-get-one deal). It's slow as f***. It's unresponsive. The keyboard sucks. There are, however, two things I love about it that annoy me on the iPhone. First: I love the way it handles notifications, putting them in the drop-down menu bar at the top. Not the most obvious thing, but once you know what it does you'll find it's much less intrusive than Apple's system, and it lets you open only the notifications you care about in the order you want to. Second: Google Voice. I don't spend any money AT ALL on text messages, even though I send about a hundred texts a month, since I do it all through Google Voice. I also love the way Voice is able to transcribe my messages into text and send a copy to my email. Since I keep my phone off during the day, it means I can still receive important messages. I realize there's a Web app for that on the iPhone, but it's just not the same. And it's 100% Apple's fault that there's no dedicated app. For that, I hate Apple.

I'm especially interested in how it handles media. Specifically adding and deleting music and podcasts via a Mac (not using iTunes, I know, just manually adding/deleting).

I don't manually add and delete. I use something called doubleTwist, which basically imports your iTunes playlists and allows you to sync your Android device through it. However, when you import playlists and try to sync, it doesn't always work on the first try. It may be something I'm doing wrong, but I often find it easier to delete all the music off the phone manually and then resync. I don't use Podcasts, but I think they work with doubleTwist as well.

Curious to also know how it handles address book/contacts. Right now it's of course super easy for me as my iPhone syncs with my address book.

I don't sync that stuff, so I don't know. I find it easier to not lose or break my phone than syncing contacts. However, there is an app called MyBackup (free trial for 30 days) that allows you to make a backup to the cloud. And not just contacts: music, movies, and apps too. Worked great when I upgraded my OS (unlike an iPhone, everything on an Android phone is erased when the OS is updated, sadly. Good thing they hardly update the OS, hehe).

I like my iPhone but there are things I find frustrating (tired of the 3.5" screen, I've had more dropped calls in less than 2 years vs. 12 years with Verizon wireless, and this is often with 5 bars). Really want to check out the Droid X when it comes out. And this is coming from a huge Mac user/fan.

Good luck. Personally, I would rather have an iPhone, simply because right now, I carry my Droid Eris for phone calls/texting, an iPod Touch for music and apps (I only have apps I absolutely need on my Eris, since I don't like using it when I don't have to), and an iPod Nano for video recording (my Eris does this, but the camera's pretty poor). I'd love to consolidate all this into a device that's just a little thicker than my iPod, but... I need a reliable network :(
 
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