Motorola's New P30 Smartphone Blatantly Copies iPhone X

[DNichter]

Just confirming your point. " It’s not surprising that Google is considering scrapping it and creating a new OS that is more like iOS".

Everyone steals from everyone.

So you’re saying that Google is trying to create another knock off of iOS, considering the failures of their first attempt? Okay.

 

[bopajuice]

So you’re saying that Google is trying to create another knock off of iOS, considering the failures of their first attempt? Okay.

Jezzzz man, I am sorry you are bitter for whatever reason but I never said anything of the sort. Never realized talking about cell phones was such a passionate topic. I think I'll bow out now. More important things in life to deal with besides a flippin cell phone...

 

[DNichter]

Jezzzz man, I am sorry you are bitter for whatever reason but I never said anything of the sort. Never realized talking about cell phones was such a passionate topic. I think I'll bow out now. More important things in life to deal with besides a flippin cell phone...

I was just trying to understand your point. I’m still lost on what it was. You’re the one who quoted me.

 

[FFR]

So you’re saying that Google is trying to create another knock off of iOS, considering the failures of their first attempt? Okay.

I don’t think he knows what point he is trying to make.

 

[curtvaughan]

aha...
But I thought global companies have world-wide patents. So this Motorola won't be able to sell in Germany for example.
Sad to hear Motorola is Chinese now. I always felt Motorola is an "American" thing with deep history in wireless cellphone technology. Its like hearing Disney is Russian now.

In more detail, Motorola split off into two different companies - Motorola Solutions and Motorola Mobility. The Mobility division makes their smartphones, and was bought by Lenovo from Google in 2014. "World Wide" patents exist as a concept, but only by treaty among participating nations in the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT). Much like the United Nations, it suffers from lack of real enforceability, as lawful patents are enforced by individual nations. For some details: http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/12/26/pct-basics-patent-rights-around-the-world/id=64141/ . Multi-national corporations have become so heterogeneous that they are hard to pin down as to nationality. That's why they're able to skirt labor, trade, and tax policies of individual nations - just move various operations to the lowest bidder with the least restrictions. Most consumer tech products are in that category, including those made by Apple. Speaking of Disney, it's not owned by Russia, but trying to nail down who owns what among its current five different divisions is like solving mathematical path theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company

Motorola actually came out with some of the original digital mobile phones back in the day (1990s). My first mobile phone was a Motorola StarTAC flip phone I purchased in the late 90s. It really wasn't a true "smart" phone, but being one of the first and most compact of its time it commanded a pretty high price (up to $1000 in 1990s dollars). Motorola's first smart phone came out in 2009, when Google churned out the open sourced Android 2.0, called the Droid.

 

[MacBH928]

In more detail, Motorola split off into two different companies - Motorola Solutions and Motorola Mobility. The Mobility division makes their smartphones, and was bought by Lenovo from Google in 2014. "World Wide" patents exist as a concept, but only by treaty among participating nations in the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT). Much like the United Nations, it suffers from lack of real enforceability, as lawful patents are enforced by individual nations. For some details: http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/12/26/pct-basics-patent-rights-around-the-world/id=64141/ . Multi-national corporations have become so heterogeneous that they are hard to pin down as to nationality. That's why they're able to skirt labor, trade, and tax policies of individual nations - just move various operations to the lowest bidder with the least restrictions. Most consumer tech products are in that category, including those made by Apple. Speaking of Disney, it's not owned by Russia, but trying to nail down who owns what among its current five different divisions is like solving mathematical path theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walt_Disney_Company

Motorola actually came out with some of the original digital mobile phones back in the day (1990s). My first mobile phone was a Motorola StarTAC flip phone I purchased in the late 90s. It really wasn't a true "smart" phone, but being one of the first and most compact of its time it commanded a pretty high price (up to $1000 in 1990s dollars). Motorola's first smart phone came out in 2009, when Google churned out the open sourced Android 2.0, called the Droid.

thanks for the insight... I really thought patents were enforced.

 

[mi7chy]

At a third of the price it's a viable option to the iPhone X with double the DRAM, larger display and without the shackles of iOS such as being able to set smarter Google Assistant/Maps/etc. the defaults, fingerprint scanner without the false positives of Fake ID, placing icons anywhere on home screen, file manager, running emulators, background multitasking and services, etc. And, both probably come out of the same Chinese factory but one doesn't have the exorbitant markup. Options are good for smart consumers.

The base model of the Motorola P30, with 6 GB of RAM and 64 GB of storage costs 1999 yuan, which is about $290 USD. The version with 128 GB of storage goes for 2099 yuan, which is about $305 USD.

 

[I7guy]

At a third of the price it's a viable option to the iPhone X with double the DRAM, larger display and without the shackles of iOS such as being able to set smarter Google Assistant/Maps/etc. the defaults, fingerprint scanner without the false positives of Fake ID, placing icons anywhere on home screen, file manager, running emulators, background multitasking and services, etc. And, both probably come out of the same Chinese factory but one doesn't have the exorbitant markup. Options are good for smart consumers.

It’s not a viable option if one likes “the shackles” of iOS, 5 years of support, top notch customer service, etc. it’s up to the individual to decide.

 

[username:]

Companies like Lenovo, Oppo and Xiaomi are not about original thinking. They exist to make cheap copies of popular devices and that’s how they make their money.

And yet people complain that Apple takes all the profit. Because nobody else does anything worth paying for!

 

[Applemaniac7]

This Motorola rips off the iPhone X and Android was originally a rip off of iOS. Android was completely different prior to iOS being unveiled. No I would never own an Android phone, I value different things that it doesn’t offer. I have used plenty of Androids though, just to give it a look. Android has come a long way, but it’s still essentially a knock off OS, with a lot of the same issues it has had since the beginning (performance, security, privacy, developer support, fragmentation, no tablet apps) It’s not surprising that Google is considering scrapping it and creating a new OS that is more like iOS.

You are obviously aware of the famous steve jobs zerox parks visit? How's that sit with you? Or is it selective pretentiousness?

 

[Baymowe335]

lol@second rate OS? it's more for people who want to tailor exactly how they like it rather than someone else deciding what's best for masses.
there are facts, and then there are uninformed opinions. i'm afraid yours fall in the latter category.

You mean tailoring it with a third party launcher that’s full of bugs and security flaws? Most people have grown out of playing around with the appearance of their phones other than wallpaper.

I’d rather have the security updates.

 

[DNichter]

You are obviously aware of the famous steve jobs zerox parks visit? How's that sit with you? Or is it selective pretentiousness?

I’m aware, same idea. You could say the same thing about Windows.

 

[Applemaniac7]

I’m aware, same idea. You could say the same thing about Windows.

You havn't answered the question for obvious reasons. You won't use android as its a copied OS. Jobs admits to stealing every great idea he saw. I'll ask you again, how does that sit with you. Considering the moral high ground you like to reside upon..

Ps, you have more than made yourself look foolish in the eyes of every One. Feel free to address the group..

 

[DNichter]

You havn't answered the question for obvious reasons. You won't use android as its a copied OS. Jobs admits to stealing every great idea he saw. I'll ask you again, how does that sit with you. Considering the moral high ground you like to reside upon..

Ps, you have more than made yourself look foolish in the eyes of every One. Feel free to address the group..

Android being a copy of iOS has nothing to do with why I won’t use it. I think it’s lame that Jobs copied some OS functions, but macOS became a very different OS by the time I got around to using it. I don’t use macOS today, but that has nothing to do with it either.