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Motorola's New P30 Smartphone Blatantly Copies iPhone X
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Or just think they are forced to do. They don't necessarily judge the market right all the time (they'd probably be leading at least the Android market if they actually did judge the market right all the time).
"Motorola's P30 is available in China"
Umm.... how is this different than any other product in China?
First of all this is not the American company you thought of anymore. Motorola have gave up long time ago and they’re own by Chinese now in case you don’t know. Besides phones are look alike even before you were born. Things around they’re look alike clothings, cars and even tools. They just slap their own brands and ready for market. Nothing new here so don’t worry about it.
What surprises me is that, even with the blatant copy, they managed to make it so much uglier. And the hubris of the Motorola text at the bottom — if people are buying this to look like the IPhone, they don’t want an ugly reminder that his is a knockoff.
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So your position is that it’s impossible to copy an object made of known shapes?
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So your position is that it’s impossible to copy an object made of known shapes?
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Wow. If that's all it takes then it's not just Samsung.
My point is: you can't just claim that Apple is selling "gutted" macbook airs to another company so that they can slap their own badge on it and make their own copy. Let's take a look at that chrome book next to an actual macbook air:
1. Different physical size
2. Different keyboard bezel
3. different hinge design
4. different function key size/shape
5. Different lower left key layout
We won't even look at a side/bottom view.
The reason I'm even saying any of this is because there are legitimate criticisms of apple:
1. The touchbar
2. Lack of upgradability/serviceability
3. Throwing around the term "pro" with certain projects
4. Lighting port on iphone (should just be usb c)
5. The list definitely goes on
And then there are people just spouting absolute falsehoods and lies, and acting like they actually know the first thing about product manufacturing (my professional field). It's laughable and frustrating at the same time. People will skim over something like that and take it into their brains as fact when it couldn't be farther from the truth.
The only way this is happening is if Apple was selling raw blocks of aluminum to Samsung (they're not/they didn't).
I don't think Apple sold the design to Samsung, Samsung just copied it for that device.Wow. If that's all it takes then it's not just Samsung.
My point is: you can't just claim that Apple is selling "gutted" macbook airs to another company so that they can slap their own badge on it and make their own copy. Let's take a look at that chrome book next to an actual macbook air:
1. Different physical size
2. Different keyboard bezel
3. different hinge design
4. different function key size/shape
5. Different lower left key layout
We won't even look at a side/bottom view.
The reason I'm even saying any of this is because there are legitimate criticisms of apple:
1. The touchbar
2. Lack of upgradability/serviceability
3. Throwing around the term "pro" with certain projects
4. Lighting port on iphone (should just be usb c)
5. The list definitely goes on
And then there are people just spouting absolute falsehoods and lies, and acting like they actually know the first thing about product manufacturing (my professional field). It's laughable and frustrating at the same time. People will skim over something like that and take it into their brains as fact when it couldn't be farther from the truth.
The only way this is happening is if Apple was selling raw blocks of aluminum to Samsung (they're not/they didn't).
I agree, but a couple pages earlier a guy was claiming that "In 2015" apple sold "gutted macbook airs" for Samsung to brand as their own.
Don't put much credence to that poster's comments.
They provide no supporting evidence to back up claim.
If you look at the other post they made on this thread you can see why you should just ignore.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...copies-iphone-x.2132935/page-17#post-26364989
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...copies-iphone-x.2132935/page-19#post-26365309
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...copies-iphone-x.2132935/page-20#post-26366262
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...copies-iphone-x.2132935/page-20#post-26366398
Nothing in your post has any factual basis; just more Apple fan-boy bashing. Based on your previous comments in other topics, you can hardly be relied on to remain objective.
In fact, Motorola makes some of the most solid handsets in the industry. All of the Motorola devices I’ve owned in the past were like tanks, relative to their hardware stability, software integration (their Android implementation is damn near stock), and build quality.
A successful Apple can co-exist with another competitor. Not all competitors need to be obliterated from the face of the planet just because they dare to build a glass-paneled rectangle.
I’ve owned all different types phones - iOS and Android. I’m currently rocking a Red iPhone 8 Plus, and it’s fantastic. This doesn’t mean, however, I immediately dismiss everything Android based, even if it borrows design elements from the iPhone. Why wouldn’t they borrow design elements from a great design?
The original iPhone was a revolution in the sense that it brought smartphones to the masses, but still evolutionary, and borrowed from previous smartphone designs. It combines all of the positive elements of its predecessors and included some of its own.
These “blatant copy” or “ripoff” threads are tired and simply attempts for the site runners to whip up a frenzy and generate clicks.
I took the case off my 7 plus and put it on my 8 plus. Exact fit. If that isn't an example of recycling the same design I don't know what is. Like someone else pointed out companies use similar design features in their phones as a way of continuing brand loyalty and brand identity.
Not saying it's a bad thing, but Apple's cycle of issuing a model like the 6, then the 6s (same design), then the 7 (similar looking to the 6), then the 8 (which is exactly the same as the 7 as I pointed out). Thats three generations of phones that look almost exactly the same. I feel the phones (Although with minor differences), have looked the same since the 6.
Now we have the X which to me looks similar to the original iPhone, and then they will do the X plus? or Xs? who knows. Same incremental updates. Boring. To me this design in general is getting old. To me the X looks different only because there are no bezels. The only reason other companies are copying the design are sales related.
Your latest batch of pictures highlights the different sizes and thicknesses. I get your point that technically they are different, and I understand that you are focusing on the other posters claim they are "Exactly" the same. I feel you have proved your point. Not sure what you are trying to get out of this.
I feel the overall theme of the phones has not changed that much. If anything, when they got to the 4 and squared off the corners that seemed to be a new direction, but then we went back to the rounded edges, and now with the X having rounded edges and a steel band we are back to the general look of the original iPhone.
Again if you think Samsung is the only company recycling designs I think you are mistaken. Now if you said other companies are copying the X design I would agree. Which was the theme of this whole thread. It seems this thread has been hijacked with your obsession. Let's get back on topic shall we?
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No factual basis? So this isn't a blatant copy? Got it. Pretty laughable to say the iPhone was evolutionary also. The industry hasn't been the same since and there is no other phone that competes with the iPhone. Pretty solid for what many like you consider a product that was just bound to happen. Apple got lucky I guess. I have no problem with competition, but they should at least try to establish their own design language. Samsung and I am sure some others have done just that.
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Just remember... if this came to the US it would say "verizon √" on there. The branding sucks, but at least it isn't that...
Awe, now i understand. People are concerned other people will mistake the Motorola for the iphone X!
I guess for a lot of people the iPhone X is a status symbol. Having phones out there that look the same takes away from the exclussiveness.
I don't think you guys have to worry. I can assure you when someone wears a Rolex people do not mistake it for a Timex. They can tell the difference even from a distance. I'm sure that will apply to the iPhone X as well.
You’re right that is possible, but motorola is primarily a mobile electronics company. So they can’t really afford to make lackluster phones. Apple on the other hand, while the iPhone accounts for two thirds of their profits, that remaining third is weighted heavily enough that they ideally should be able to use it as a buoy to weather any storm they underwent pertaining to their mobile category.
In other words, they were a computer company first and always will be no matter what, so even if they were to blow it with the iPhone at some point they’ll still be able to salvage a substantial bit of the company with computers. (And yes I’m including iPads with Macs simply because of their size and certainly not because of their feasibility as an actual computer. Because I would assume they continue to make iPads, albeit taking it into a completely different direction at that point, should the iPhone fizzle out).
you're correct about my grammar mistake, but the U.S was at war when they created the space shuttle.
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I think you misunderstood my comment, or I didn't explain myself well. The iPhone isn't technically edge to edge, because it has a bezel where the notch is, but it's the only phone that has come close due to it have no chin. There is the notch, but because the screen follows the corners, it has the effect of being true edge to edge. plus it looks symmetrical, which is why I think its the best looking phone out there. I agree with you comment about Apple getting it right and the others failing.
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The optical illusion part is at the top, where it has a bezel (the notch), but because the screen follows the corners, its not noticeable, and seems like there is no top bezel. It a genius design.
Of course it is possible. It is also possible TC could take Apple to 2T.
Anything can happen. As long as I’ve been a member of MR, “Apple is doomed” has been a popular meme.
Honestly, I can't tell whether this is irony or agreement.
The point remains... In 1976 dollars, Apple's market cap is around $250B. That's still impressive growth, but the rest of the trillion dollars is inflation.
Sigh. Why would people who wear Rolex (or use iPhone) care what other people use? Some folks no doubt purchase them for status symbol, but plenty of people buy iPhone X just because they like the product. In many places, owning an expensive phone is not a status symbol at all.
More often than not, it's those who use a counterfeit or look alike product who wants the status symbol status.