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and you will get malware, just like I did on my IMac

Did you also blame Apple for this?

If it can't use Javascript or Flash, what's the point?

Firefox will have to use Apple's own Safari Javascript engine. (Also, you can't make an internet browser without Javascript -- well you can if you want to cripple it. I think you're thinking of Java. Java != JavaScript)

we don't care
Filed under "don't give two craps" category.

Why do you guys even post then? Clearly you care enough to comment
 
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Given the issues Firefox has on OS X, I'm not overly excited about this.

What issues? It runs pretty much rock solid for me (FF Developer Edition).

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I also do not understand why people still shade Firefox. Its memory footprint has been optimized to the point where it is the most memory efficient browser you can run from the "big 3" (FF, Safari, Chrome).

It is extremely extensible and customizable, so you can make it yours. No other browser has even close to the amount of customization FF allows.

It protects your privacy and, if you don't like the default privacy settings, there's an add-on for that (ex: NoScript, Ghostery).

The sync feature works pretty damn well, second only to Google's imo. However, Chrome has been extremely bloated lately and taking up a lot of memory, hence my switch to FF.

It is not a perfect browser, but is way, way ahead of its competition. Safari doesn't exist on Windows, so I can't use it (unfortunately, I still have to use Windows at work), and I've pretty much ditched Google's alternative.
 
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I don't have any problems with Chrome.
I wish Apple would allow you to set default apps, at least for a few applications.

How so? To set your default browser? Or to set dragged links to open with a certain browser (or apps). Such as:
 

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difficult for companies like Chrome, Opera, and Firefox to create satisfactory browsing experiences on Apple's platform
Chrome and Firefox aren't companies, they're software products...

I think you mean Google, Opera, and Mozilla.
 
Did you also blame Apple for this?



Firefox will have to use Apple's own Safari Javascript engine. (Also, you can't make an internet browser without Javascript -- well you can if you want to cripple it. I think you're thinking of Java. Java != JavaScript)




Why do you guys even post then? Clearly you care enough to comment



Did I say that? read the post!
 
I think Google Chrome is way ahead of the game on this. Unless the firefox app comes with addons that are available in the desktop (which apple will never allow this to happen knowing how they are), there is no need to use it or even download it.
 
Regarding Apple's policy as described in the article, specifically blocking 3rd party innovation, thus putting the OS integrated iOS browser at an advantage over non-Apple browsers. Isn't that precisely why, on the basis of competitor lobbying for anti-trust investigations, Microsoft was forced to break IE off from its Windows OS?

That was at a time when Microsoft had 90+% marketshare in the desktop browsing market (maybe even 95+% if exclude special use case machines like Sun workstations). And effectively also 90+% of the total web browsing market. Today Apple has with iOS less than 20% of the global smartphone share, even less in the total web browsing share.
 
"As a result, Safari is able to outperform other browsers on the platform."

The javascript limitation was a legitimate and important security issue, not some sneaky way to slow down benchmarks or something.

And iOS 8's new security features allow many things that weren't possible before. Don't quote me, but I believe 3rd party apps now CAN use the same fast Javascript engine as Safari? Isn't that correct?

EDIT: Yes, the article quote is wrong:

http://www.cnet.com/news/ios-8-grants-new-power-to-rival-browsers-web-based-apps/
 
What issues? It runs pretty much rock solid for me (FF Developer Edition).

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I also do not understand why people still shade Firefox. Its memory footprint has been optimized to the point where it is the most memory efficient browser you can run from the "big 3" (FF, Safari, Chrome).

It is extremely extensible and customizable, so you can make it yours. No other browser has even close to the amount of customization FF allows.

It protects your privacy and, if you don't like the default privacy settings, there's an add-on for that (ex: NoScript, Ghostery).

The sync feature works pretty damn well, second only to Google's imo. However, Chrome has been extremely bloated lately and taking up a lot of memory, hence my switch to FF.

It is not a perfect browser, but is way, way ahead of its competition. Safari doesn't exist on Windows, so I can't use it (unfortunately, I still have to use Windows at work), and I've pretty much ditched Google's alternative.

Which issues (compared to Chrome or Safari)?

The constant updates causing extensions to be outdated such as PDF reader, so I couldn't get proper functions in the browser.

The main issue was that it kept freezing my MacBook - the whole system, so I'd have to do a hard reset. I found others were having the issue and Mozilla had no fix. Eventually I had enough and went to Safari. While I like the connectivity of Safari between my MacBook and iPhone, it's not as great as Firefox sans issues. Will likely try Chrome once I get annoyed with Safari.
 
"As a result, Safari is able to outperform other browsers on the platform."

The javascript limitation was a legitimate and important security issue, not some sneaky way to slow down benchmarks or something.

And iOS 8's new security features allow many things that weren't possible before. Don't quote me, but I believe 3rd party apps now CAN use the same fast Javascript engine as Safari? Isn't that correct?

EDIT: Yes, the article quote is wrong:

http://www.cnet.com/news/ios-8-grants-new-power-to-rival-browsers-web-based-apps/

Thank you for this, updated the article.
 
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