I love the new Firefox. The fact that Safari has no popup whitelist keeps me from using it. Plus I love how customizable Firefox is. Tweeking the settings in About:config can really make it fly!
Originally Posted by tuffluffjimmy
It's still firefox in all of its bad font glory
I don't get this comment. The fonts look nearly identical between Safari 3.1 and Firefox3 here. Admittedly, I'm using a CRT on this PowerMac so if it's some kind of soft-focus thingy that your LCD requires to look proper, I guess that might explain it. Otherwise, I have no clue what you're talking about. Why don't you post a picture with side-by-side little snaps of Safari/FF3 comparative font captures to illustrate what you're talking about?
I don't actually use safari, it's slow. I use camino. My point is that firefox is making absolutely no attempt to fit in.Sorry, but I had to stop reading your message right there. What in the world does the shape of the buttons have to do with ANYTHING? Apple decides what your life looks like, I take it??? If the default theme doesn't look IDENTICAL to Safari (i.e. copy-cat and possibly copyright violations) it's no good? That's the #1 thing on your list, dude. Geeze. I have to conclude WHO CARES. I won't even bother reading the rest. There's a link in one of my posts above to convert FF3 into Safari's twin if you want, but some of us don't think it SHOULD be its twin because we didn't think Safari was all that and a bag of chips to begin with.
I don't actually use safari, it's slow. I use camino. My point is that firefox is making absolutely no attempt to fit in.
I'm a software developer, I put a lot of effort into my UI. Firefox comes along with a truckload of hype and a crap UI and everybody treats it like it was designed by god. Yet it betrays many values that the mac platform has and leaves proper developers thinking "why bother?".
(Oh and sorry about starting the list with the round rect buttons, that's just the first thing I saw when I started it.).
What does everyone use for Adblocking in Safari? ABP is what keeps me using FF as my daily browser.
Well, I havee to disagree on that. On my iMac 24" and on my MBP 15" Firefox runs much faster than Safari. With that I mean that the websites are downloaded and displayed in shorter time. I cannot quantify how much, but the subjective feeling is on twice as fast. On the other hand Firefox 2 showed nearly such a speed. Nevertheless I stick to Safari. This time I am giving FF3 a chance.
Here you go, Safari left, Firefox right. I don't know about you but I can see the difference clearly, even with this JPG compression
I don't actually use safari, it's slow. I use camino. My point is that firefox is making absolutely no attempt to fit in.
I'm a software developer, I put a lot of effort into my UI. Firefox comes along with a truckload of hype and a crap UI and everybody treats it like it was designed by god. Yet it betrays many values that the mac platform has and leaves proper developers thinking "why bother?".
(Oh and sorry about starting the list with the round rect buttons, that's just the first thing I saw when I started it.).
Yeah, that sense of moral superiority they try to project has always been one of the things that bugged me about FireFox and Mozilla. That and the typical open-source "uglies" problem are the two main detractions, and it seems like they have both survived to this version.A little bit disingenuous for Mozilla to suggest that Firefox was created to promote openness, innovation and opportunity on the Web and Safari wasn't.
Both browsers share that similar goal. Considering Webkit (the engine behind Safari) has been a good deal more innovative than Mozilla recently in bleeding edge standards support (offline databases, HTML 5, CSS 3 etc.) and Javascript performance it should also get a tick.
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And before people rush to tell me that Apple has misrepresented facts in the past in adverts as well. I already know, but that is irrelevant, the discussion is about Mozilla, not Apple.
Is there any sort of auto-update for webkit?
Anyone else having the same problem? If so, any solutions?
Yeah, that sense of moral superiority they try to project has always been one of the things that bugged me about FireFox and Mozilla. That and the typical open-source "uglies" problem are the two main detractions, and it seems like they have both survived to this version.
I also am really kind of ticked at this stupid "worlds record" stunt, and am purposely waiting until it's over before downloading the thing. There's nothing particularly wrong with it, but personally I just find it childish and gimicky.
I prefer Safari because it's a simpler, cleaner design. the standard answer to any FireFox problem encountered is always the great configurability of the thing and the add-ons that will "do almost anything." In practice however, the only add-ons that I have ever found useful are the ad-blocking and the themes that make it look less ugly. Also, I don't particularly *want* to "maintain" my browser by downloading and constantly updating a bunch of add-ons that really bring little to the table overall.
Ever since Safari got ad-blocking, I just don't see any reason to switch.
I do have some niggles with it:
- It doesn't work with one of my favorite add-ons: Bookmark Sync and Sort. The sort functionality isn't needed anymore, as FF3 has this built-in, but I do miss my cross-platform bookmark syncing.