And FF3 is perfect in displaying websites? It's not. It chokes on some iWeb pages, for example, that Safari and even FF2 are okay with. So, Wolf04's claim that Firefox is without doubt better than Safari is simply opinion and not fact.
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Mozilla Releases Firefox 3 Web Browser
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I'm impressed! This is quite a big improvement and it looks native on OS X. Firefox 3 is definitely my favorite browser (but Opera and Safari have their niceties too but the lack of extensions make both less desirable for me).
I really tried to give FF3 a full day's chance (I used it as my only browser for a full day)
but with the endless slew of bugs and a really ugly UI I dropped it. I can't stand it, I'm going back to the nightly builds and on my windows computer I'll probably switch to Opera.
but with the endless slew of bugs and a really ugly UI I dropped it. I can't stand it, I'm going back to the nightly builds and on my windows computer I'll probably switch to Opera.
Is there a way to do auto-complete of URLs if a site is in your bookmarks? I know you can push the down arrow to the list of sites if you've already visited it, but Safari completes it after two or three letters. This is probably the main feature that's keeping me on Safari.
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type "about:config" in urlbar and press enter (yes, like what KingYaba did above)
find the entry browser.urlbar.autoFill
double click the line to toggle the value from "false" to "true"
enjoy your auto complete.
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Hm? I've been doing this in Safari for a few years now. Not sure how exactly to set it, but I haven't tweaked much in the preferences and it's always worked for me.
auto suggest, as in firefox 3 's awesome bar, you do NOT need to type the URL, rather, you can type in Page title, url, or tags, and firefox will search for match in history and bookmarks, while safari only does history.
I guess I'm an idiot! Thanks psychofreak! Feels good to use Apple's browser again.
I guess I misunderstood. Safari auto-completes URLs for me and retrieves them from my bookmarks (not sure about tags). I know because I always reset Safari (history, cookies, etc) after usage.
I was going to reply with some cutting remark that made it obvious how biased and mis-informed you are, but I see you have kind of done that yourself further down by arguing back and forth with a couple of people much smarter than you.
Never again am I going back to Safari, unless its on a iPod touch/iPhone...
I really like the look of FF3.
I really like the look of FF3.
no problem, I never feel bad about asking questions, smart people can always make "cute words" that are indicative of their superiority, sorry, Im too dumb to understand the underline meanings.
ignore me, smart you
do what? about:config ? no. But safari has the hidden prefs that you can set from the terminal of OSX. Im not sure if it has a list for u tho.
I guess the original expression is that you don't need to type the address. which is quite useful since sometimes you don't remember the address but do remember what that page was talking about, so just type in the possible title of the page.
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No, if you were using an RC you weren't automatically updated, but the final release is just RC3 rebranded as the final release anyway.
You know if you're going to avoid a MBP because of the "community" and "elitism" found on these forums, that's your choice, but if you end up trying out the Macbook Pro and finding it to be better than whatever you're using now, you're going to be kicking yourself for avoiding the MBP (or another Mac) for such a stupid reason.
You don't have to be a fanboy (I'm not), but this same community is also very useful for answering questions, although you have a couple of friends already using Macs so maybe they could help out.
Thanks, I probably would have found it eventually since I've been poking around mozillaZine, but thanks, this is the one of two things that were missing from my perfect AwesomeBar.
No, Safari does not have about:config. In about:config you can edit pretty much any setting in Firefox.... it's more akin to a plist for a file, except I think this is stored in a JavaScript file.
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I guess the original expression is that you don't need to type the address. which is quite useful since sometimes you don't remember the address but do remember what that page was talking about, so just type in the possible title of the page.
Ah, I see what you mean now.
That's right. Webkit promotes openness, innovation and opportunity of the web and Safari, which uses the Webkit rendering engine in turn promotes openness, innovation and opportunity of the web. This applies to any other browser which uses Webkit as its engine.
There are lots of examples.
This is great. Obviously they are on to something good. You missed off Google's Android as well, which will also use Webkit.
Glad we're agreeing so far.
Please explain.
Why not? They are competing browsers. They use different rendering engines and both of those have got full marks in ACID 3.
Normally you measure performance by how good something is, not how much work went into it. Webkit needed less work to it in order to pass, so what? That just means it started out better in the first place.
Of course no measurement is perfect. It is better to have some measurement than none. If Mozilla are not happy with the ACID tests then they should create there own tests and push for these to be used to determine support of standards instead.
Do you read?
elppa said:
FF2 auto-updates are set to turn on next week. Auto-updates won't count for the downloads record, so they wanted everyone to download from the web site.
Just an example of Putting the User First.
This is a "for your mum" feature though. No one but a novice really appreciates it usually.clevin said:
It's also bad design as it confabulates two completely different features into one control. You can't effectively type a URL into the control because it starts searching yahoo or some such place instead, then you hit enter by mistake and you are off onto some site that you never intended to go to. On the other hand if you use it to search, it's not clear what, where and when it's searching and it's almost impossible to control.
It's a dumb feature IMO, intended for people who like to be lazy and imprecise (like some of the people on this thread).
Besides which, who searches their history much anyway? Or has so many bookmarks that they need to search those as well? Wouldn't you just add a bookmark if you needed to get somewhere more than a couple of times? And wouldn't you organise and throw out your old bookmarks once in a while? Isn't that what FireFox's "strong" bookmark organisation features are supposed to be all about?
well, we will see, you can't assume iPhone will take over all the cell phones tho.
I actually didn't assume the iPhone. I'm sure it's part of what made webkit popular, but other <a href="http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/safari-based-browser-coming-to-nokia-n800.html">phones</a> are also turning to webkit for their phone based web browsers.
Tell me, how do Safari controls not act exactly the way all other OS X controls do?
Are they non-native controls? I see no indication of that (even looking into the application bundle itself I see .nibs and other IB artifacts). If they aren't though, at least Apple did a complete job of replicating the OS standards!
I kinda like FF3, I only use FF because I CAN'T USE HOTMAIL WITH SAFARI at all, are you saying you CAN access hotmail?
(I know Hotmail=MS=the Devil but my account is like 10 years old so I keep the same address, I would gladly support Safari if I could just check my email with it
My wife was using Hotmail for quite a while with Safari. It has a crappy-as-hell interface (I don't know; it didn't look or act any better on her Windows+IE machine either), which is why she finally switched over to gmail for her web mail account. Was a pain in the ass because Hotmail, unlike the other free email accounts out there, refuses to forward email to any other accounts (ex, moving from gmail to JoesMailSite, you can forward all email which still goes to me@gmail.com to me@JoesMailSite.com ... hotmail will only forward to a different hotmail or live.com or msn.com email address).
In any case, not sure why it wasn't working for you. Hotmail worked for my wife throughout Safari 3.0 (Tiger) and 3.1 (Leopard) revisions.