I read the article and the 1.5 million figure is for 6 weeks or 42 days. The 40,000 figure is for 1 day.
1,500,000 / 42 = 35,714 a day. Seems reasonable to me.
1,500,000 / 42 = 35,714 a day. Seems reasonable to me.
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Like kdarling asked, what are these data stealing applications you are referring to specifically?
As an Android user I am definitely interested in them so I can stay away from them.
Both android and the iPhone had a slow start.
I don't disagree with your opinion. But that being said - there is a HUGE difference between 1.5M and 40K. That's all I'm sayin'
kdarling didn't ask what apps. But there were definately some wallpaper apps I read about.
However, one of our IT Risk guys read something worse that said there were some apps that could pull any data on the device, even if it's encrypted (since it has access to the data through the device's own encryption.) Specifically, I'm worried about e-mail and any other data a user may place on their device.
I've not heard the iPhone having issues with the loss of e-mail or other data, just contacts.
I'm still waiting to hear back from IT Risk on something backing his statement, but he's on vacation for now. Either way, if I don't have their buy-off on the device, I'm not allowing it. And if we review the iPhone again based on this info, we may remove access to them as well.
I read the article and the 1.5 million figure is for 6 weeks or 42 days. The 40,000 figure is for 1 day.
1,500,000 / 42 = 35,714 a day. Seems reasonable to me.
Thank you. "Old Math" comes to the rescue
As for the thread topic, Apple constantly pumps up sales numbers by including their inventory channel. (They count shipment from China as a "sale".)
IIRC, this has sometimes accounted for 20-35% of "sales" in a quarter.
I read the article and the 1.5 million figure is for 6 weeks or 42 days. The 40,000 figure is for 1 day.
1,500,000 / 42 = 35,714 a day. Seems reasonable to me.
Thank you. "Old Math" comes to the rescue
As for the thread topic, Apple constantly pumps up sales numbers by including their inventory channel. (They count shipment from China as a "sale".)
IIRC, this has sometimes accounted for 20-35% of "sales" in a quarter.
You can't catch lightning in a bottle twice like that after the iPhone.
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Like kdarling asked, what are these data stealing applications you are referring to specifically?
As an Android user I am definitely interested in them so I can stay away from them.
kdarling didn't ask what apps. But there were definately some wallpaper apps I read about.
However, one of our IT Risk guys read something worse that said there were some apps that could pull any data on the device, even if it's encrypted (since it has access to the data through the device's own encryption.) Specifically, I'm worried about e-mail and any other data a user may place on their device.
I've not heard the iPhone having issues with the loss of e-mail or other data, just contacts.
I'm still waiting to hear back from IT Risk on something backing his statement, but he's on vacation for now. Either way, if I don't have their buy-off on the device, I'm not allowing it. And if we review the iPhone again based on this info, we may remove access to them as well.
Android started off slow too, I say give MS a year and we should have an idea if the OS is going to be a player or a bust.
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Aah, yes. I misread what kdarling asked yesterday. Sorry anout that.
I believe the security issue you are on about is the way that Android stores some data as unencrypted text and that a rooted phone could be at risk of data loss due to it.
If you use a an unrooted Android phone, it isn't an issue as you need superuser permissions on the phone to access the data.
If employees did root their phones then it would be a risk but I'd ask the question why they are hacking company owned phones, just as much as I would if someone jailbroke a company iPhone.
That's part of the issue, unwisely, we are telling users if they want a smartphone they must buy it themselves and then they can connect it to our network. I think this is outright stupid, but we have executives that A) refuse to pay for users to have expensive iPhones etc...yet then turn around and insist that they get to use an iPhone themselves. We end up with this stupid situation wher the employee owns the hardware that our data is sitting on. I can't guarantee our employees won't root or jailbreak their smartphones.
So, do iPhones have this same issue about storing data unencrypted if I have forced encryption via ActiveSync? This is what I need to determine.
<snip> so you could filtered for only acceptable roms (stock non rooted) and your problems would be solved.
My company wont allow Windows 7 phones because they can't enforce their security policies for Active Sync....MS has tons of work to do on the OS....
Using what? What system would be able to tell me this?
That is not something I would know. All I know is it is possible to see the what OS version is running. Now android you get that info you can start locking out non official roms. iOS you are SOL knowing if it is jailbroken or not.
Blackberry you have BES to protect those.
I'm guessing you'd have to have Good or something like that to get the OS version. I'll look into it.