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Chinese leaker "Instant Digital" today said the iPhone 18 Pro will not feature dual-layer OLED technology, adding that Apple's current thermal management approach remains a limiting factor for sustained outdoor brightness on Pro iPhones.

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In a new post on Weibo, Instant Digital commented on a question about when dual-layer OLED would arrive on iPhone, saying simply: "In any case, the 18 Pro definitely won't have it." The leaker had earlier this week reflected on last year's predictions, noting that the iPhone 17 Pro made little meaningful progress in maintaining peak brightness levels outdoors. Instant Digital suggested that without a change to Apple's thermal throttling strategy, dual-layer OLED is the only path to a significant real-world brightness improvement.

The assessment aligns with what has been rumored elsewhere. A report from last August indicated that Apple has set a two-year production plan for tandem OLED to be adapted for the iPhone, but that Apple had yet to decide whether to develop the panels with Samsung Display or LG Display, pointing to an arrival no earlier than sometime after 2028.

The report also noted that the variant Apple is reviewing differs from the full tandem OLED used in the iPad Pro. Rather than stacking two complete RGB layers, Apple is said to be evaluating a "simplified tandem" design that doubles only the blue sub-pixel layer while keeping red and green on a single layer.

For the iPhone 18 Pro, the display upgrade on the table is said to be a move to LTPO+ technology. As reported earlier this month, Apple is expected to finalize panel approvals for the iPhone 18 Pro and Pro Max with Samsung Display and LG Display, with China's BOE reportedly closed out of the premium tier due to quality and yield issues with its own LTPO+ technology. The upgrade from the standard LTPO used in the iPhone 17 Pro should improve battery efficiency by enabling finer control of OLED light emission, but it does not address peak brightness or the thermal throttling that limits sustained outdoor luminance.

Dual-layer OLED would address both matters. Since each emissive layer operates at lower intensity to achieve a given brightness target, the display generates less heat, reducing the thermal pressure that causes Apple's current panels to throttle under sustained use. The M4 iPad Pro was the first Apple product to adopt the technology. Instant Digital's comments suggest iPhone customers will have to wait considerably longer.

Article Link: Much Brighter iPhone Display Still Years Away, Leaker Suggests
 
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LPTO+ is good enough for a long time. The cameras are also taking a big leap with the variable apature. What Apple needs to focus on right now is building a much more efficient device and doubling down on software.
 
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Will be good if the 20th anniversary iPhone gets a brighter display. On my 17 Pro Max, display does not get dim on bright outdoors but it is something that I have noticed frequently on my 15 Pro Max.
 
I never care about how many nits it hits when outside because auto brightness is off always I want max brightness so I never get the higher nits, the iPad had tantrum OLED without a vapour chamber while the iPhone still can’t
 
Seems plenty bright already
Dual tandem (or penta tandem as Samsung calls theirs) won't really make it much brighter. But it can produce the same brightness with less heat and less power draw, resulting in better battery life. It will also increase the lifespan of the display.

Also, Apple killed their microLED plans. They were planning on making their own displays starting with the Apple Watch, but the project was years from shipping so it was axed. microLED would be significantly brighter and more efficient, but more expensive.
 
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I have pretty much always used my phone/iPod screens at about 30% brightness, and only in direct sunlight is it hard to see (when it auto adjusts to brighter), but a simple turn of your body usually fixes that. 😛
 
I'm surprised that we're nearly two decades after the Kindle showed how well eInk works for viewing under sunlight and there's hardly been any phones that use it.

Obviously it has the issue of slow refresh rates, but I'd think some kind of hybrid screen would be possible that gives both the brightness when content is static under bright light, and OLED or whatever otherwise.
 
I'm surprised that we're nearly two decades after the Kindle showed how well eInk works for viewing under sunlight and there's hardly been any phones that use it.

Obviously it has the issue of slow refresh rates, but I'd think some kind of hybrid screen would be possible that gives both the brightness when content is static under bright light, and OLED or whatever otherwise.
I'd be content with existing screens on iPads and iPhones - if we had an eInk display on the other side!

Flip the iPad and change from whatever the current technology in your device to eInk. Obviously not good for photos, for photo colour accuracy, etc. But perfectly fine for much browsing, emails, messages, etc.

(I realise that literally putting a screen on the back of the device would have all sorts of consequences. Like Magsafe changing through a screen, scratching, inappropriate positioning of buttons, cameras, etc. Just trying to express the functionality I'd like in a couple of words.)
 
Dual tandem (or penta tandem as Samsung calls theirs) won't really make it much brighter. But it can produce the same brightness with less heat and less power draw, resulting in better battery life. It will also increase the lifespan of the display.

Also, Apple killed their microLED plans. They were planning on making their own displays starting with the Apple Watch, but the project was years from shipping so it was axed. microLED would be significantly brighter and more efficient, but more expensive.
This is what people aren't understanding. Sure, the max brightness of iPhone 17 is plenty bright enough, but it doesn't stay at max. It quickly overheats and then becomes too dim to see clearly. We need something that can get and stay as bright as the current max brightness, or at least close to it.
 
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for what? iphones? iphones have been on oled, nothing more to gain
Plenty to gain:

• Longetivity: OLED still suffers from long-term burn-in in ways that LCD and microLED displays do not. MicroLED gets you the deep, perfect blacks of OLED with the longetivity and stability of LCD.

• Efficiency: MicroLED uses less power than OLED.

• Performance: MicroLED is *significantly* brighter than OLED, leading to superior HDR and outdoor performance.

The problem with MicroLED is scaling the manufacturing techniques, and reducing cost. They can’t make enough of them (yet), they can’t make the panels large enough (yet), and they can’t make them at a reasonable cost (yet).

MicroLED remains the holy grail of display technologies that’s always “five years away”, every damn year. 🥲
 
I really want to see who is out here thinking the displays aren't bright enough. Are people using these phones on the sun?
This is gonna blow your mind, but there is considerable variety in people’s eyesight, AND there’s changes to people’s vision as they age. 🙂

Having a phone that *can* go brighter outdoors is a net benefit, even if you wouldn’t personally take advantage of it (just like access to emergency satellite connectivity is a net benefit, even if you’re not stuck at the bottom of a ravine waiting to be rescued).
 
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