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It's beta for a reason. Things get put in to be later removed later all the time. It's just the way it is.

Yes, we all realise this. It doesn't mean its not worthwhile to talk about changes. Maybe you don't care about it, but then you did care enough to post and repeat what has been said by other posters, huh?

I've noticed something else on my iPhone 5 related to multitasking - it seems like fewer apps are staying in memory, and need to reload after switching to them, which is a shame.
 
Uhh no it wasn't...

Uhh yes it was.

http://9to5mac.com/2014/03/14/ios-8...g-its-new-beginning-for-iphone-ipad-software/

"In addition to the in-app tweaks, Apple has been working to speed up iOS 8 in comparison to iOS 7. Applications are said to launch more quickly, close more quickly, and overall system navigation is said to feel much smoother and more stable. Apple sped up animations and improved stability in the recent release of iOS 7.1, but the enhancements in iOS 8 are said to go a bit further."
 
It's the first Beta.
That's what people said all through the iOS 7 beta and then when the 7.0 GM came out it was a pile of garbage with all of the same problems the betas had. Essentially a public beta.
 
Yes, we all realise this. It doesn't mean its not worthwhile to talk about changes. Maybe you don't care about it, but then you did care enough to post and repeat what has been said by other posters, huh?

I've noticed something else on my iPhone 5 related to multitasking - it seems like fewer apps are staying in memory, and need to reload after switching to them, which is a shame.


Apps needing to be reloaded probably has more to do with debug code bloating up the system during the development phase.

Debug code gives developers much more information to fix things with then is normally in a release but is normally comes at the expense of cpu and memory.

You can expect these types of things to slowly get dialed back over the course of a beta.
 
Really... What is the point by dismissing everything as: it is a beta. Really... what is the point of iOS 8 section even exist if you can simply dismissing everything by: it is a beta, take it or leave it attitude? The whole point of beta testing is reporting bugs or talking about the shortcomings, so final version could be better. Somehow, this is not the case for Apple. Yes, Apple decide to release beta to developers, but that does not mean these people cannot complain or report bugs.

So iOS 8 section should really open when iOS 8 finalize...
 
Uhh yes it was.

http://9to5mac.com/2014/03/14/ios-8...g-its-new-beginning-for-iphone-ipad-software/

"In addition to the in-app tweaks, Apple has been working to speed up iOS 8 in comparison to iOS 7. Applications are said to launch more quickly, close more quickly, and overall system navigation is said to feel much smoother and more stable. Apple sped up animations and improved stability in the recent release of iOS 7.1, but the enhancements in iOS 8 are said to go a bit further."

I feel like that could be true but its too quick to register the animation. It's literarily 1/10 of a second animation. Feels almost instant, not exactly a good kind.

It's likely they will slow it down so you can actually understand it.
 
People complained when it was slow now they're complaining its too fast. FFS...people will complain no matter what
 
I quite like that animation speed :)

I think it feels much faster now. Much better than before. Are people actually complaining about this?

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On the contrary I wish all of the animations were that fast.

I compared opening multitasking with a 5S (iOS8) and 5 (latest iOS7.x). It's no contest. :D

This is the first iOS beta #1 that feels faster than the OS it's going to replace. I remember every 1st beta running like poo until much further along the development train.

Does anyone know if iOS is written in Object C and if Apple is going to rewrite the OS using Swift?
 
The purpose of the iOS 8 BETA release is to give developers a head start to developing new applications that will utilize iOS 8 changes or to update their existing application so it continues to function normally with iOS 8 when it becomes available to the public.

Unfortunately, some users here think it's their duty to install iOS 8 even though they are not developers and state their opinions on what they think of the "Work in Progress" as if Apple personally asked them to beta test iOS 8 and provide feedback.

It's a BETA:

- It will run sluggish
- It will/may crash
- It may run hot
- The screen may not respond promptly
- Animations will be slow

This year it looks like the iOS 8 beta "testers" seem to have a better grasp of what a beta is compared to last year's mental Diarrhea of threads.

Next time less attitude please.
How about you show some less attitude. There's a difference between a design choice and a bug. Crashes are bugs. Animations speeds are design choices. How come all of you "it's a beta" zealots are unable to understand that? It's a very clear difference.

There are often complaints about:
- Crashes and functionalities that don't work as they are intended, i.e. bugs
- Functionality differences that are design choices, i.e. changes

Bugs. Changes. Bugs. Changes. Bugs. Changes. They're different things. Not every complaint is about bugs.
 
How about you show some less attitude. There's a difference between a design choice and a bug. Crashes are bugs. Animations speeds are design choices. How come all of you "it's a beta" zealots are unable to understand that? It's a very clear difference.

There are often complaints about:
- Crashes and functionalities that don't work as they are intended, i.e. bugs
- Functionality differences that are design choices, i.e. changes

Bugs. Changes. Bugs. Changes. Bugs. Changes. They're different things. Not every complaint is about bugs.

I think this is an important point. I'm not the sort of person that goes around moaning about bugs in a beta, or certain apps crashing or whatever. I have the beta installed on my primary phone, so some level of patience is required!

But this change in animation speed seems deliberate, and therefore worth discussing. I imagine the devs on iOS 8 agonise over implementing such changes, given the care afforded to small details that Apple is known for.
 
My iPhone is too fast. Not something I'm upset about.


If you are on Macrumors forum, then you will notice people will be upset about everything. Either too slow or too fast...

Not long ago, people were complaining about too slow animations and how they made them feel nauseous. Now it seems Apple have made them faster, you have the other bunch coming out to complain about faster animations... And then there are others who do not want animations at all....

Perhaps Apple needs to give speed control button for animations, to satisfy all...and maybe I will see pigs fly...
 
If you are on Macrumors forum, then you will notice people will be upset about everything. Either too slow or too fast...

Not long ago, people were complaining about too slow animations and how they made them feel nauseous. Now it seems Apple have made them faster, you have the other bunch coming out to complain about faster animations... And then there are others who do not want animations at all....

Perhaps Apple needs to give speed control button for animations, to satisfy all...and maybe I will see pigs fly...

It's funny - the only people who are really complaining or are upset are the ones who think the discussion of (admittedly nuanced) details of iOS should be stifled.

We use features like multitasking every day when using an iDevice, and Apple clearly spends a lot of effort on animations. If the thread doesn't interest you, surely it's easier to ignore it. I was just curious about the general consensus on the change.
 
How about you show some less attitude. There's a difference between a design choice and a bug. Crashes are bugs. Animations speeds are design choices. How come all of you "it's a beta" zealots are unable to understand that? It's a very clear difference.

There are often complaints about:
- Crashes and functionalities that don't work as they are intended, i.e. bugs
- Functionality differences that are design choices, i.e. changes

Bugs. Changes. Bugs. Changes. Bugs. Changes. They're different things. Not every complaint is about bugs.

Remember the "animations are too slow" threads in iOS 7 Betas? It went on for months and months in the betas and the final product was different.

All I'm saying is it's too early to make those kind of observations considering they are most likely to change. So yes, it IS only Beta 1.
 
I'm all for faster animations. iOS 7, even with 7.1, still feels sluggish because of the animations. I can't interact with the OS until the animation has finished which is very frustrating and there are many apps which suffer from this. Flipboard, for example, if you pull down from the top to refresh on a section and there's no new articles, the 'no new items' animation fades in appears and I can't interact until it goes away.

So if iOS 8 has even faster animations, especially the app switcher, then I'm glad. Perhaps a video of the new speeds would be useful for those not using the beta to see it though.
 
It's funny - the only people who are really complaining or are upset are the ones who think the discussion of (admittedly nuanced) details of iOS should be stifled.

We use features like multitasking every day when using an iDevice, and Apple clearly spends a lot of effort on animations. If the thread doesn't interest you, surely it's easier to ignore it. I was just curious about the general consensus on the change.

You want to know about general consensus ?? How will you find that out,,as this is a beta version, which only developers can download. How are you going to get a consensus on a version which is beta and only handful few can download it?

Also it is going to change so much over time and until GM version comes out, so how is this consensus meaningful?

If you can't take criticism or disagreements to your threads, perhaps you should reconsider posting in future...

This is a forum, where we can discuss, argue, and at many a times have a heated debate on each and every thread we read about... It's called freedom of expression...
 
You want to know about general consensus ?? How will you find that out,,as this is a beta version, which only developers can download. How are you going to get a consensus on a version which is beta and only handful few can download it?

Also it is going to change so much over time and until GM version comes out, so how is this consensus meaningful?

If you can't take criticism or disagreements to your threads, perhaps you should reconsider posting in future...

This is a forum, where we can discuss, argue, and at many a times have a heated debate on each and every thread we read about... It's called freedom of expression...

I am aware that any input on this thread is not a good representation of all iOS users (though we both know that it is not just devs using the beta).

I just thought it would be interesting to see what people thought of the change, and it was, for me. It interests me to see how Apple works on betas, and how things change back and forth between each beta. These things don't annoy me; I just find them interesting.

And you're very welcome to make posts which just repeat what other people have said. I just think it's curious that you do so; that's all.
 
Oh. My. God. Here we go with the stupid "it's a beta" comments.

Yeeeeeaaaap, now seems to be a good time to break out this meme MinEderPlayz made a while ago. For clarification, I absolutely agree with you and think that this exemplifies the "it's a beta" inanity:

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I'm on an iPhone 5, and on iOS 8 Beta 1, my multitasking animations have sped up quite a bit, which doesn't seem like an improvement.

It's mainly the animation when you first double press the home button that seems faster, and doesn't give the impression of "stepping back" as it did on iOS 7.

Probably gonna be called out for nitpicking here, but the experience feels jarring now, and isn't so good at communicating context, which is surely the intention of the multitasking animations.

Just wondering if anyone else thinks this, but also whether it's the same for the 5s?

omg! just what i wanted in iOS 8!
 
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