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Solid State?

I am not really a mac fan, but the ipod is a very exciting piece of kit and so when i heard a rumour about a smaller more affordable version i took an even greater interest in it.
So now i have downloaded iTunes for windows, just to check it out (even though i love winamp)
i have also spent a great deal of time on the net reading these forum posts.
Maybe, mac and pepsi (pepsi is mentioned a lot in these things) got together and thought about generating some free advertisement? And what better way than to "leak" a rumour. I will probably even watch the key note speech if its being broadcast on the net, exposing myself to all sorts of other mac products i wouldnt have seen otherwise.
Personally i really hope there is a mini ipod, i will buy one, and mac could make a ton of cash with itunes if they can corner the lower end of the market.
I think that will mean a shock and skip proof player of some sort though because:
1. No-one will buy thier child one if it isnt more durable than the current ipod, the little bugger will only break it
2. The lower capacity players are more likely to be used by joggers etc. Dropping and shaking HDDs isnt too good for them.

I would be interestred to hear others thoughts on this
 
MINI IPOD FACTS

MINI IPOD FACTS:

They are going to be HD based but loaded with RAM so it won't skip.

They will ship with multiple colors.

Small...comes with an armband for runners.

NOT $100!!! Are you kidding me! isights aren't even that cheap! This is Apple we are talking about! Its gunna be good. Look for the price to drop around $250.

And now for the size: NO 2BG (weak) Apple will show off a nice 4.5 GB in multiple colors. 2 models in muli color is a nightmare. They will have the one size only.

Some of you may laugh, but this is whats coming...believe it or not. Its fact now. I will smile on the 6th when I turn out to be EXACTLY right. Who else believes me? I will smile again when I'm right and you're wrong. PEACE
 
Hi NeatGekko,

Is this idle speculation, or do you have a valid source?

Careful with your turn of phrase - this board is always on the edge of erupting into a fully-fledged flame-war!
 
If I'm not right...

If I am wrong I will eat my right hand. Lets put it that way. One of those, "not sure I was supposed to know" situations...but I think since everyone knows mini ipods are coming...might as well let the few who read this know how they come.
 
Re: If I'm not right...

Originally posted by NeatGekko
If I am wrong I will eat my right hand. Lets put it that way. One of those, "not sure I was supposed to know" situations...but I think since everyone knows mini ipods are coming...might as well let the few who read this know how they come.

Let's put it this way: I'll be re-posting your claims after the product announcement. If you're right, all hail NeatGekko! If not, I expect you to host a live webcast of the aforementioned meal.

I don't know how many times I've seen versions of this kind of claim. "Honest, I got a peak at a secret memo . . ." Sigh. If I was in your alleged position -- even if the source was God himself -- I'd keep the alleged facts to myself, because there isn't any way for us poor, unenlightened net denizens to tell the eagles from the turkeys.
 
Re: MINI IPOD "FACTS"

Originally posted by NeatGekko
MINI IPOD FACTS:

They are going to be HD based but loaded with RAM so it won't skip.

Um, the existing 3G iPods all have 32MB of RAM cache. They don't play directly from the HD, and they don't skip.

I'm not trying to be facetious; I'm just trying to figure out why you'd mention this miniPod "fact" as if it was going to surprise someone . . .
 
Re: MINI IPOD FACTS

Originally posted by NeatGekko
MINI IPOD FACTS:
Look for the price to drop around $250.

Sounds like another dropped ball for Apple then. Why would someone who won't spend $299 on an iPod spend $250 on a mini-iPod? This would target iPod users that have longed for something a little smaller, but that's about it.

$250 mini-Pods will fly of the shelves like turd-cakes.
 
FALSE

NeatGekko please stop posting false things. The ipod thing you said is definitly false. (my uncle works for apple as a ipod designer :) ). Only a moron would make a mini generation of a product only 30 bux less than the current one (unless the current one is really cheap already). The mini ipod will be cheaper than 200 dollars. But that is all I can tell you. Most of this is basic marketing information.
 
Sorry

It is true, I must be honest. I don't know the exact price. BUT I do know the spread. $200-$250. It won't be less than $200. I would love to see a $199 price tag though. I think once people actually see how amazing these little things are, they will be accepting of a higher price tag. Look at the high end iBooks and low powerbooks. Buy a powerbook and you are basically getting less but paying more. Its about size. The smaller it gets, the more people are willing to pay. Thats how it goes with iPods now. They are expensive. People buy them over the other HD based players partly because they are the smallest. Once again, read and weep. PEACE
 
Re: Solid State?

Originally posted by Pirate_Will
I am not really a mac fan, but the ipod is a very exciting piece of kit and so when i heard a rumour about a smaller more affordable version i took an even greater interest in it.
So now i have downloaded iTunes for windows, just to check it out (even though i love winamp)
i have also spent a great deal of time on the net reading these forum posts.
Maybe, mac and pepsi (pepsi is mentioned a lot in these things) got together and thought about generating some free advertisement? And what better way than to "leak" a rumour. I will probably even watch the key note speech if its being broadcast on the net, exposing myself to all sorts of other mac products i wouldnt have seen otherwise.
Personally i really hope there is a mini ipod, i will buy one, and mac could make a ton of cash with itunes if they can corner the lower end of the market.
I think that will mean a shock and skip proof player of some sort though because:
1. No-one will buy thier child one if it isnt more durable than the current ipod, the little bugger will only break it
2. The lower capacity players are more likely to be used by joggers etc. Dropping and shaking HDDs isnt too good for them.

I would be interestred to hear others thoughts on this

WELCOME TO THE BOARDS! Thanks for comming! Anyway, from what I'm hearing, Apple has gone the other way on hard drives in the low end players, and now I'm betting that we'll see RAM iPod that isn't much smaller than the 10gig.

Anyway, have fun, mabey you can get a nice iBook G4 to get started on the Mac lifestyle. :D
 
NusuniAdmin: From what you're saying, your credibility is about the same as NeatGekko's. Of course, I don't think that the $250 price point makes the miniPod cheap enough to justify the purchase, but of course, there's a different form factor to contend with.

Rio's Fuse has a price point quite close to Cali's, the Chiba's, and (with certain third-party retailers) even the Nitrus'. So, we may just see a miniPod with a smaller form factor at around the same price, for those who don't want something as big (relatively) as the iPod.
 
RIO

Look at rios 2GB offering. ALL FLASH. Apples will be more than twice as much, for $50 more...looks good to me.
 
Originally posted by iMook
NusuniAdmin: From what you're saying, your credibility is about the same as NeatGekko's. Of course, I don't think that the $250 price point makes the miniPod cheap enough to justify the purchase, but of course, there's a different form factor to contend with.

Rio's Fuse has a price point quite close to Cali's, the Chiba's, and (with certain third-party retailers) even the Nitrus'. So, we may just see a miniPod with a smaller form factor at around the same price, for those who don't want something as big (relatively) as the iPod.

As NusuniAdmin said quite clearly, one doesn't have to have a crystal ball to know that the miniPods will be priced less than $250. The pricing will be determined by basic marketing principles that Apple obviously understands a lot better that many of the wishful posters in this forum. Unlike his predecessors, Steve has repeatedly demonstrated his penchant for providing clear differentiation between product lines. Contrary to what Mr. NeatGecko (gag) thinks, a Powerbook is aimed at a very different market than the iBook, and its features (and price) reflect this. It's NOT just about the size. Apple will NOT release a miniPod that can't clearly define its own market, and that includes price point. Apple wouldn't bother with a new product that wasn't significantly cheaper than the existing line, and $50 doesn't qualify as "significant."

If I had to guess (<-- see that? it's a guess!) I'd say $199 is the magic number. I don't think they'll go lower, because Apple knows they are still in the catbird seat, and can milk the profits for a while longer until somebody else starts seriously threatening their market.
 
Originally posted by backspinner
With the cheap small devices as bait, the expensive large devices will still sell and maybe even attract more buyers...

Makes a lot of sense to do a 2gb max inexpensive iPod. Expands their marketshare so people will be more likely to want to trade up to the larger, more profitable units once they are locked in to the format.
 
Re: Re: If I'm not Right

I take it you're a confirmed carnivore, NeatGekko.

Might I suggest that intead of eating a right hand upon being proven wrong, that you consider substituting a serious number of bagels instead. ;)

They're much healthier wager, and would leave you with 10 fingers to play whatever size iPod is released at MWSF.

But if you're still willing to make that hand eating proposition, I think you're speculations will have more credibility if you back up your rumor with any documentation

:D
 
now if i had found this at the smalldog website I might get excited...
mini-pod2.jpg
 
Listen Upb

I will not post documentation. I can easily see how that could get me in trouble. For all those that have ears to hear: the new ipods will not be sub $200. Currently, (as in before midnight sat.) I am hoping they sell for $199. Just as a personal pref. Does this mean that the price hasn't been decided yet. Even 3 days before the big event? *smiles* At any rate, whoever said that Apple is trying to define a new market with the launch of mini iPods, is mistaken. Lets say that the Apple stategy is a...."work your way down." concept. I am excited for MW...once everyone sees the units. They are beautiful. The first thought when you see it, isn't how much is it...just a simple, "I want one." Cheers
 
Stuff it Upb

Originally posted by NeatGekko
I will not post documentation. I can easily see how that could get me in trouble. For all those that have ears to hear: the new ipods will not be sub $200. Currently, (as in before midnight sat.) I am hoping they sell for $199. Just as a personal pref. Does this mean that the price hasn't been decided yet. Even 3 days before the big event? *smiles* At any rate, whoever said that Apple is trying to define a new market with the launch of mini iPods, is mistaken. Lets say that the Apple stategy is a...."work your way down." concept. I am excited for MW...once everyone sees the units. They are beautiful. The first thought when you see it, isn't how much is it...just a simple, "I want one." Cheers

One more time: Step away from the glue bottle, get the ad for the 12-step group out of the trash, and keep your [CENSORED] [CENSORED] [CENSORED] meanderings to yourself.

[CENSORED] cheers to you, too.
 
Re: Re: Uh OH! Looks like somebody jumped the gun!

Originally posted by revenuee
what in the article say anything about the future iPods?

EDIT ! AHAHHAHHAAHHHAHAHAHA

Im an idiot...

That 3rd GENERATION ipods.
 
Re: Re: Re: If I'm not Right

Originally posted by BagelTycoon
I take it you're a confirmed carnivore, NeatGekko.

Might I suggest that intead of eating a right hand upon being proven wrong, that you consider substituting a serious number of bagels instead. ;)

They're much healthier wager, and would leave you with 10 fingers to play whatever size iPod is released at MWSF.

On the other hand, with five fewer fingers, it will be somewhat more difficult for NeatGecko to continue to clutter this forum . . . :D
 
I for one HOPE that this geko is right, nothing would make me happier then to have someone come in a shut everyone up.

3 days stil we find out.

Geko, if you know everything describe the size and a few more specs.
 
Until Sunday

I am not in a position to give more anymore specific information until Sunday evening. I think I have posted as much as is necessary to clear up some of the wide spread confusion. I will say that I have seen some of the photoshop work (which is very good) but its not even close. They are amazing. Cheers
 
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