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Colours

I really don't like the ida of colours, the only reason being that when i bought a revision b iMac i had to wait 2 weeks to get it because they came in groups of 5 each when the retailer ordered them, and most people wanted blue and no-one wanted green, so we had to wait for the green ones to sell. What a logistical nightmare.


Btw, that would be probably the best mock up i've seen, although i believe the screen will be slightly bigger.
 
Originally posted by Pants
Front page of todays (UK) daily telegraph.

smaller ipods retailing for ~£65 pounds holding around 800 songs. Smaller and in colours.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/

under 'ipod buyers singing the blues'.

Thanks Pants! Great news!

I went through the sign-up process and got the following info for all to chew on (and save some time):

iPod buyers singing the blues
By Robert Uhlig, Technology Correspondent
(Filed: 30/12/2003)

The most popular high-tech toy this Christmas - the Apple iPod - is about to be usurped by a bargain priced mini version.

...

But yesterday Apple dealt a depressing blow to the 1.3 million people who paid up to £450 for the small digital jukebox when news slipped out that it is about to unveil a smaller version costing around £65.

Steve Jobs, chief executive of Apple, is expected to unveil the smaller, cheaper iPods at an exhibition in San Francisco next week.

In addition to the lower-cost iPods, expected to hold up to 800 songs, Apple will introduce different coloured cases for the current white iPod, which holds up to 10,000 songs.

The new mini-iPods are intended for people who want a digital music player but do not need one that can hold music from more CDs than most people have any intention of ever owning.

..."

So this basically confirms there WILL be a USD $99 versioned miniPod and upto 4GB in size (there goes the Cornice idea ;) ).

BUT thank god the COLOUR is only referring to as - Apple will introduce different coloured cases for the current white iPod - NOT coloured miniPods;) ;) ;) ;)
 
Nice confirmation.

Don't care what they call it, or what colors it might come in.
Just give me a MP3 player that will hold a Gig, cost $100, and have a good UI.
 
More addictive than crack cocaine (hypothetically speaking)

:( Folks I am dying here. I need my Apple fix, and I need it now.

I got the first gen 20GB and I wouldn't mind picking up another mini-iPod for jogging and working out.
 
Re: Re: Re: Toshiba, Hitachi and Cornice are not the only HD makers

Originally posted by hokka
I believe the Cornice SE HD was intended for embedded use only, thus, less parts compares to Microdrives - BUT, I'm sure if Apple do use Microdrive it would have less parts too as it will not be a removable media format, and it would not require on-board drivers and protactive casing - thus reduce the cost.

I may be wrong here, but my understanding that the main simplifications to the Cornice design were in the core mechanisms. You don't remove screws by removing an injection-molded interface and a circuit-board controller; you remove screws by redesigning how the platters and heads interact within the device.

When I first heard of Cornice, the pitch was that they had, instead of taking existing 2.5" HD designs and "shrinking" them (same parts, just smaller), totally redesigned their mechanism for small and durable drives from scratch. That type of effort is not easily replicated by Hitachi and Toshiba, unless they've been working on it for a few years.

Yes, they are bare bones drives, without cache and controllers, but that's not the only difference between them and Microdrives; it's not even the defining difference. That is a side-effect of the Cornice drive being intended (designed from the start) as an embedded drive whereas the Microdrive was intended by IBM as a storage-in-a-box Flash replacement/"killer".


Cornice's products may be used in a few well known brands, BUT I doubt they can PRODUCE the quantity Apple would require for the extreme popular iPod Brand... why? because the product is relatively new and to pump up production would require large orders and with out Apple, they wouldn't do it just to try lure Apple when Apple already has a good relationship with Toshiba and Hitachi - whom are their compatitors and are only expressed their intention to revamp production of the 1.8" - BECAUSE of the iPod (and the spawned competitors like Dell).

Two points:

First, you are correct about production concerns. Cornice outsources their production, last I heard, which makes it more expensive than an in-sourced production facilities. On the other hand, until Toshiba and Hitachi have redesigned products for the embedded market, the cost is still in Cornice's favor.

Second, I don't recall an relationship between Hitachi and Apple. Hitachi's drive unit used to be IBM, of course, but that doesn't imply a relationship.

Really, the biggest problem with Cornice is that the drive technology is so damned new. It's not the same product the industry has been evolving for the past forty years. It takes a few rather large steps away from the evolutionary path. As a result, it may be a huge advance, or it may be a complete failure riddled with unforeseen problems.
 
Re: my 10 cents.....

Originally posted by elgruga
Its not the size of the drive that really affects the price, its all the other stuff.
For Apple, buying a 10 gig isnt much different from a 30 gig.

Within a specific product, that is true. However, when looking across different product lines (such as from Toshiba to Cornice), you can get significantly different costs if you are willing to sacrifice some capacity.

The "other stuff" besides the HD is relatively cheap, although on a $100 device it will definitely come into play. It could all be paid for with the discount Apple got n Toshiba drives (bare drive $399; iPod with bare drive inside a case with battery and processor etc plus Apple profit, $399). You don't have nearly as much leaway with a $65 drive.
 
Originally posted by hokka
So this basically confirms there WILL be a USD $99 versioned miniPod and upto 4GB in size (there goes the Cornice idea ;) ).

Actually, I see this as more confirmation of Cornice than anything. Granted, Cornice hasn't announced a 4GB version of their product yet, but that doesn't mean much. Who had heard of Toshiba's 1.8" drive before the initial iPod launch?

I find it significantly easier to believe that Cornice has upped their capacities (perhaps to 2GB/drive, and the 4GB version contains dual drive mechanisms?) than that Toshiba/Hitachi et al have so drastically lowered their production costs on a brand new ($400/drive+) 4GB drive they've already announced and started to sell.
 
Originally posted by Fahd
Lol, couldnt have posted that otherwise, could I? :D Just not a macfanatic like most of you guys.

You dont get it... think! If I wanted to find out something about Apple I would... hmmm tough one. Apple.com maybe? Or wait... maybe google can answer my question... dam I think its even posted on the frontpage of macrumors.com. Its like asking how to spell a word when you have a dictionary in your hand. Simpleton.
 
Originally posted by williwilli
personally I suspect they are just repeating the rumor reports -- if there was any official confirmation, this would not be the first news source to receive it imo

picture? http://www.sejus.com/earth2willi/forums/viewtopic.php?t=416

yup, I suspect their 'source' was some joe techie reporter who got tipped by a techie friend of his who got tipped by some mac techie friend of his who reads Macrumors.

It's funny how they say "news slipped out" when they're just reporting hearsay of rumors.
 
Originally posted by e2chris
You dont get it... think! If I wanted to find out something about Apple I would... hmmm tough one. Apple.com maybe? Or wait... maybe google can answer my question... dam I think its even posted on the frontpage of macrumors.com. Its like asking how to spell a word when you have a dictionary in your hand. Simpleton.

Shut up.
 
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Now that I think about it I could use a cheap little 1 or 2 gig mp3 player. Maybe apple will pull a james bond stunt and put the mp3 player into a watch :p
 
Originally posted by dongmin
yup, I suspect their 'source' was some joe techie reporter who got tipped by a techie friend of his who got tipped by some mac techie friend of his who reads Macrumors.

It's funny how they say "news slipped out" when they're just reporting hearsay of rumors.

Interestingly enough, the London Evening standard is reporting the same 'rumour' as fact. This was on the front page of the telegraph today, and a bigger piece on page 5. The torygraph is not a paper that would usually print such things unless it had good cause to - if only because its petrified about being sued (the paper is up for sale) for loss of business. I suspect its more likely someone has given them the nod.....
 
Re: a rough mockup of an idea

Originally posted by doogle
ipod+upod.jpg

i really like this

i'd jump on it
 
Re: Re: a rough mockup of an idea

Originally posted by revenuee
i really like this

i'd jump on it

Yeah, that does look really cool. Gotta give those people credit for their graphics skills for doing that. Very neat and I would have fallen for it.
 
Afer seeing the November stats on MP3 player sales I have to agree that a 1GB or so for $99 would take over the market. The second most popular mp3 player is a $150 128mb... jeez. If this happens, it will be a very aggressive move by Apple and I like it. I'm not sure I like the idea of going flash memory but those new micro drives could be fun. :)
 
Originally posted by e2chris
f$ck you both then! Roger Wilco? Like I give a sh$t...

Kay, not necessary on this forum. Your initial post was a little harsh, and there was no need to call someone a simpleton. We do not personally insult people on these forums, in case you're new here. Wilco's reply was succinct and to the point, I'll admit, but that is no excuse to blatantly swear like that. That type of behavior will get you banned and is not tolerated on these forums.

If you have something constructive to present, which can contribute to the discussion in a mature, intelligent manner, then please do so. Otherwise, the members on these forums have no time or patience to read childish, pointless posts like this.
 
I've seen this on other discussion forums on the internet. Someone asks a question and instead of getting either an answer or a link to where the answer is, they get criticized for asking the question.

Why do people do that - it takes more time to criticize than it does to be helpful.

I think the question still hasn't been answered - so here it is. Steve's keynote is Tuesday, January 6th, 9am PST.

Here's the Keynote Link
 
Flash Cards...

Originally posted by Rocketman "Hitachi will come out with a 4GB Microdrive before the end of the year. Flash-memory cards, which now hold 1GB of data, meanwhile, will continue to boost density. "
Look at Pretec...

http://www.pretec.com/

On September 22nd, they demo'ed a 6GB CF Card.

They have plans for 12GB during the second quarter.

Granted their prices are very high at this point in time. I would expect this to change soon -- just like it has been doing for existing flash memory.

CF Flash has a lot of potential for huge capacities. IMHO, much more than the HD solutions currently available.

Prices are dropping on CF memory. You can purchase a 1GB CF carf for the same price as a 512 MB last year. Currently CF 512MB cards for sale at sub $100 prices here in Japan.

Sushi
 
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