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Re: Call the hospital, it happened again

Originally posted by wake up Jobs!!!
well youve done it again Jobs. I commend you. You have shot your self in the foot so many times, i am suprised there was anything left there to shoot this time! $500 FOR AN IPOD, WHAT ARE U CRAZY!!!!!! Pc'ers can buy new computers for $500! And highering the price of the iMacs, that is just suicide. How are you supposed to compete with pcs when you can get a highend PC for $1000! This is why Macs are still behind PCs in allmost all sales of computers. This company is doomed if they keep things up. I live in miami and as you know there is a new apple store there. I go in there all the time and talk with the workers and i watch the PC folk walk in there and look around and i listen to the conversations. "dad, i want a imac", "well son it is really expensive, i cant afford it, so lets go over to best buy and get you a compaq or somthing". HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WALK THROUGH THIS STORE TO BE TURNED AWAY BY OVERPRICED COMPUTERS!!. I AM SHURE THE PROFFESIONAL MAC USERS DO NOT THINK THIS, BUT I AM LOOKING AT THIS FROM A CONSUMER POINT OF VIEW. APPLE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO REACH THE MARKET THEY WANT TO REACH WITH OVERPRICED COMPUTERS AND ITEMS. I CAN REMEBER STEVE JOBS SAYING "SOMEDAY A MAC WILL BE IN EVERY HOUSEHOLD", WELL I DONT THINK IT WILL HAPPEN IN ANY OF OUR LIFETIMES.
THIS IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ! THERE ISNT ANY MORE.

Well, I don't know what else to say to this, except the word is "sure", not "shure".
 
Originally posted by wake up Jobs!!!
well it is true steve is flushing this company and its fan base DOWN THE TOLET....... AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!!

99 bottles of beer on the wall,99 bottles of beer !!

Relax, fella.
 
Well, after my long hiatus...

The 23" CDHD is gorgeous, and I can't wait to see it in person. Too bad there were no price drops, but they'll come eventually, just like we saw with CRTs.

The iPod update is a great option to stay competitive with other MP3 players, but again too expensive for most people. I'm happy with my "original" iPod and the new Contacts and EQ features they've added. The Applescript for putting your OS X Addresses in works great!

The iMac price hike is disheartening, but hopefully it will be temporary, once the parts market stabilizes and demand goes down.

Apple is still way ahead of the game, and they proved it with the Bluetooth demo. I can't wait to see Dell play catch-up.


Now...when do we actually get to SEE the keynote??? Apple...please...soon?
 
More on iMac price hike from Schiller

Philip W. Schiller, senior VP Marketing talks more on iMac price hike to The Korea Herald -

Other computer manufacturers are scrambling to "deconfigure" their models, which means some features and functionalities are omitted in a bid to keep the current prices while handling the rising costs. But Apple did not opt to remove some of iMac computer features.

"As other computer makers have a variety of models, it's hard to know whether they actually raise the prices by deconfiguring their models. But our product line is so simple and so focused that we could not do such a thing," he said.

Here is the full article
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2002/03/25/200203250025.asp
 
Re: Call the hospital, it happened again

Originally posted by wake up Jobs!!!
well youve done it again Jobs. I commend you. You have shot your self in the foot so many times, i am suprised there was anything left there to shoot this time! $500 FOR AN IPOD, WHAT ARE U CRAZY!!!!!! Pc'ers can buy new computers for $500!
Now THAT'S interesting. I'd like to see you carry around a $500 PC to play MP3 files. You must have very big pockets... 🙄

Miniaturization costs money - that's the reality of things. While it would have been great to have the "old" iPod go down by $100, it's entirely possible that the cost of the 5GB drive that the iPod uses did NOT go down at all - everybody here complaining about the price is just assuming that it did, because "it's supposed to, right?" Unless any of us work for Apple's parts procurement department, we really don't know, so don't assume.

Another thing to remember is that the iPod is selling quite well at the current price. There usually isn't a reason to drop the price of something if the sales targets are just fine at the current price, even if you have something that everyone can't afford. I could complain all day about how expensive a BMW is and how I can't afford one, but ultimately, BMW isn't under any obligation to sell it cheap enough for me to buy one. Sometimes more units and "market penetration" doesn't improve the bottom line, that's basic econ 101.

The iPod kind of qualifies as a "boutique" item, like a luxury car - sure you can buy an MP3 player for less money, but it won't be as cool, features notwithstanding. Apple knows this - why else would they start offering custom engraving on it? You don't see SonicBlue offering that on Rio Riots, do you?

Seriously, though - you might want to chill a bit, Chicken Little. All that CAPS TYPING MAKES ME WORRIED ABOUT YOUR STRESS LEVEL. 😉
 
Re: iPod prices

Originally posted by Q-bert
While it would have been great to have the "old" iPod go down by $100, it's entirely possible that the cost of the 5GB drive that the iPod uses did NOT go down at all - everybody here complaining about the price is just assuming that it did, because "it's supposed to, right?"

Actually the FireFly is based on the same 1.8" 5 GB drive. It was $400 US at the same time that the iPod was introduced, but has fallen to $200. The iPod is still $400 US.
http://www.smartdisk.com/

I'm sure the iPod will drop in price later this year, and maybe they'll intro a 20 GB model at the $500 price point.

Regardless, I went out and bought the 5 GB iPod the day after the announcement. I would've liked the 10 GB, but I fit all my music and a bootable OS 9 system on the 5 GB with a 1 GB left for data backups. And of course my Contacts are on the iPod as well.

I still think it is a good value. My Rio 500 was $300 US only 2 years ago and fits just over one album. The iPod is so much more, and has freed up alot of space on the 10 GB drive on my iBook. Sure, lower prices would've been nice, but I'm happy with the purchase.

- n8
 
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