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I dunno, I have July 2nd and 3rd off and I work in the tech industry...

Don't ever rely on one computer for your work. I don't care how much it cost. Even if it was a $10k laptop, all it would take is one cup of coffee and your work would be toast.

DOA laptops happen all the time, no matter how much it cost. The problem wouldn't have cropped up on the production line anyway, and the part was an NVidia part, which are known across the entire industry to have overheating issues...

To the above post: Apple Stores can't handle BTO exchanges. Even if they took the laptop, they don't have a BTO model to give back to him.

+1

I'm planning on buying a 10-12" netbook to use for internet/word just in case something happens to my MBP while at school.
 
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midgetsanchez said:
Why do you feel the need to complain as though you're the only one who has ever had work interrupted by a computer failure?


Why? Because a computer isn't supposed to fail less than 4 days after buying it.

Wait, is there anything that's SUPPOSED to fail 4 days after you buy it? Stuff happens.
 
Why? Because a computer isn't supposed to fail less than 4 days after buying it.

yeah, but sh*t happens. apple didn't screw you over, you got a lemon, plain and simple. don't make a mountain out of a bunny hill. if this machine is used for work, then find a way to use an alternate machine to use. don't have one? find a way. ask work. ask your boss. ask your dog. whatever. machines fail -all machines fail- so we deal with setbacks as best as we can and allocate plan B for everything if your b*alls are on the line for an important project. free applecare? hmm...maybe i should have asked for a free car after i experienced my first breakdown? jeez. you're asking for way too much for what happened. grow up and deal with the problem.
 
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Wait, is there anything that's SUPPOSED to fail 4 days after you buy it? Stuff happens.

Dell, HP to name a few.
 
... I had to vent but I just wish they would've told me that the store wouldn't be able to do exchanges for BTO units BEFORE making me an appointment 2 days in advance. I feel as though that entire step could've been avoided, as I basically entered the Apple store today, had them look at my laptop, then tell me there was nothing they could do about it and that I'd have to mail it in instead. I even asked if I could trade my BTO 7200RPM unit for a stock 5400 17" but they said no.

On another note, my display suddenly started working again. I tried but just can't get it to fail, but I still don't feel comfortable using it - I'm afraid it'll just fail again randomly when I least expect it(and require a repair, rather than a brand new replacement).

Mac user just wanted to vent to an audience and feels better for it.

Computer will be replaced.

End of tale.

+1

I'm planning on buying a 10-12" netbook to use for internet/word just in case something happens to my MBP while at school.

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Wait, is there anything that's SUPPOSED to fail 4 days after you buy it? Stuff happens.

...venting is a great stress reliever... but I have one question, when the OP was talking to the apt line on the phone - did you mention to them you had a BTO option on your computer?

If not, they told you the correct line = to make the apple store apt....

I do agree it stinks that you paid so much $$ for the machine to have problems with it almost right away but that's why I have and service most of my own hardware (with the exception of the two Mac's I just got) = 6 computers in the house so if any one, two or three take a **** I have a couple that wouldn't stop my productivity completely (slow it down yes, stop no).

I do have the fortune to be able to not "think" I need something equivalent to that $2700 laptop as anything I purchased would be much better spec wise than what most offices use where I work anyway as our network has hugely powerful servers connected to work stations that only have 512MB of RAM in them:eek::p:eek:

...yes, there are days were my eeePC1000H in my sig will run circles around my office work station (and its a C2D 2.2 GHZ machine)...
 
...venting is a great stress reliever... but I have one question, when the OP was talking to the apt line on the phone - did you mention to them you had a BTO option on your computer?

If not, they told you the correct line = to make the apple store apt....

Yeah I did, which is what bothers me. Assuming I can get Apple to do a cross-ship(mail me a new replacement unit first) before I send out my defective one I'll be very happy. It's all just been a bit of inconvenience, not to mention a waste of time for me at least, but I'll get over it. All I have to do is think about my experience with Dell support back when my Dell laptop failed a few years ago...now THAT was a real nightmare *shudder*.


My only real worry right now is why the machine decided to work all of a sudden again. Now I'm confused and don't know what the technicians are gonna think when they test it. I'm hoping it fails after a few hours, but so far nothing. I'm still definitely going to exchange it though, because god knows what might happen months from now down the line, when I won't be able to get a brand new unit to replace it.
 
Definitely NOT screwing you over as you stated.

We all have computer problems. Yes, it sucks it happened early, but when you do a BTO Mac, it clearly states the return policy. This is why buying a standard unit and upgrading yourself is the method to go in the future.

I love Apple products, but the service is NOT all some brag up. I know this from being a previous Dell owner. Their service is AMAZING! Someone comes to your door, USUALLY THE SAME DAY!, to fix a broken computer. The service offered by Apple is cordial, but it's not convenient for those of us who are spending THOUSANDS of dollars on Macs!

Let's all remember, price drops will bring more problems and less support...

Happy Independence Day... take the next few days off... or get a backup computer (maybe a DELL)!

I would be happy Apple doesn't do this as having someone come to your door to fix a computer is a complete joke as most of the time they try to diagnose what's wrong over the phone and are usually never right. So someone comes to your door to fix the wrong thing. I did this for a week as a job one time and it completely sucked which is why I was only there for a week thankfully. After seeing these in-home services first hand you realize what a complete joke they are.

Dell's server support is awesome though.
 
personally i would be really pissed... but stuff happens, and what happened sucked but not everything in the world can be exactly right...

still sux tho... i would think you would get ipod touch more likely over applecare tho...
 
wow seems like you got a bad experience. i recantly had my mbp serviced at a store. they forgot to reinstall my airport card after swapping the screens. so i came in 2 days later after i ahve left the store to get them to install my card. they lost my card and they said they can order me a new part and were sorry. well i said i need it now could you just swap it? he checked with the manager and swapped it! i had the old unbody 17" and it was swapped for the new 17" with 3.02ghz and 500gb 7200rpm :) some times apple are idiots but they can rectify situations! ask to talk to a manager every time also never put up with what a apple genuis says. you shoulda said APPLECARE TOLD ME TO COME IN AND EXCHANGE IT! next time applecare tells you that via phone tell them to note that on your applecare so when they pull it up in store they can see that they said swap your computers instead of giving you a loop around!

i feel for you i have delt with ****** apple service i attribute it to Steve jobs being out of commission. but now hes back and hopefully he whips there asses back into shape.
 
Yeah I did, which is what bothers me. Assuming I can get Apple to do a cross-ship(mail me a new replacement unit first) before I send out my defective one I'll be very happy. It's all just been a bit of inconvenience, not to mention a waste of time for me at least, but I'll get over it. All I have to do is think about my experience with Dell support back when my Dell laptop failed a few years ago...now THAT was a real nightmare *shudder*.

I'm not sure where you live but if FedEx shipped your machine you can simply take it to your local facility. Once they scan the barcode Apple immediately gets notified, I mean immediately, seconds after they scan the barcode. Your shipment will be setup to be shipped out to you. The way you want to do this involves you giving them your credit card to do an authorization for and have them ship you out a new machine. There's no difference in shipping time, will get it the same time if you take it to FedEx or to the local shipping company who shipped it to you.
Another option, you can simply return the BTO to Apple, go straight to the Apple store and buy another one, you won't be without a machine. Unless you seriously need a 7200 drive you can most likely get a better quality one from a 3rd party.

I understand that your upset and you have a right to as my new Macbook Pro came with a dent on the bottom of it last week. I had to send mine out for an exchange. You're not the only one but I didn't feel the need to create a whole post about it. Things happen. Also, I think it's just that you're annoyed because I find it very hard to believe you were so totally dependent on this new Macbook when you are new to Macs and Mac OS X, how could you possibly be so dependent on a machine with a new OS to learn and new software to buy and learn with it. C'mon dude, you know you have a backup machine, you certainly created this thread with it.
 
...venting is a great stress reliever... but I have one question, when the OP was talking to the apt line on the phone - did you mention to them you had a BTO option on your computer?
He shouldn't have to - it's the tech's responsibility to ask this question especially if it's a universal policy that Apple stores don't deal with BTO macs. I would think it's part of a noob-tech training.

That being said, I'm beginning to think that Apple employees have some great fringe benefits. I called on December 21st once and all the senior techs were gone.
 
Apple is not like your local car service centre...

But they advertise as if they are in the Mac vs. PC adverts.

I am interested to hear if they will cross-ship a BTO machine. If they do, no harm. If they don't, it is a bit weak.
 
+1

I'm planning on buying a 10-12" netbook to use for internet/word just in case something happens to my MBP while at school.

I won't use a laptop as my primary machine. It's just asking for trouble. Desktops are much more reliable, and that way I'll have a computer when my laptop goes down.

I also religiously back up every machine I have (my laptop backs up over wifi.)

Apple is great, but they can't magically fix an NVidia defect or a Seagate defect.
 
I won't use a laptop as my primary machine. It's just asking for trouble. Desktops are much more reliable, and that way I'll have a computer when my laptop goes down.

I also religiously back up every machine I have (my laptop backs up over wifi.)

Apple is great, but they can't magically fix an NVidia defect or a Seagate defect.

Yeah, but desktops are impractical at college, especially if your laptop is out of service for a week or two.
 
would hardly call this being f**ed over. sure it's an inconvenience, and with mass manufacturing, one can hardly expect 100% from the production line regardless of the QC, or products probably wouldn't ship at all. but then again, excessive drama in an age of entitlement is to be expected i suppose.
 
when the logic board on my MB died about a year ago, I nearly had to purchase another machine the same day to finish a project. But the genius told me about Procare, and they replaced the board that day. It was $100, but well worth it to have the immediate turnaround. would it help in this situation?

Mark
 
You have the right to be pissed, but understand that it is 4th of July WEEKEND. Most offices and businesses are closed/off on Friday. You should understand that. Apple isn't open 24/7 to care for problems. Just wait until Monday to get this sorted out.
 
That sucks.
But you can always just use a backup computer for work, or go buy another macbook for the two weeks then return it (with a restocking fee sadly).
Yes it sucks, but you don't have many options.
 
Stuff happens, life isnt fair, deal with it. I bought a oil pump for a freshly rebuilt motor. Pump failed 1st day, smoked the motor, had to get a new one, and no, the pump seller didnt pay for it. Stuff happens, deal. Its a computer, i HIGHLY doubt you cant be without it for a few days. But like Brian said on Family Guy "if you dont like it, complain about it on the internet"
 
+1

I'm planning on buying a 10-12" netbook to use for internet/word just in case something happens to my MBP while at school.

i know SO many people that just use public computers for word/internet.
seriously, if a 10-12" netbook can REPLACE your MBP for two weeks, what do you use your mbp for?
 
contrary to popular belief, apple employees are human beings and they also get national holidays off just like the rest of the citizens of the us.

apple is not f...ing you over. your expectations are not realistic. Also, unavoidable errors with hardware just don't show up until you use it for a while. Life will be better if you don't stress about what you can't control.
 
I'm going to keep this short and sweet. I'm a new Mac owner, just purchased a brand new 17" BTO, which I've owned for less than 6 days. Everything was working beautifully until about 3 days ago, when I noticed a few horizontal lines appear across the screen as I was watching a video. (this is on the 9400). I closed the lid and opened it again, and the lines were gone. I continued using the MBP normally.

Later on that night, the scan lines made a return suddenly as I was doing work, and the screen flickered and flashed before finally going black. I knew this wasn't supposed to happen.

The next day I called up Apple and told them about my problem. We went through a couple of steps such as resetting PRAM/etc. At this point the display was completely black and unusable. It would occasionally flash the desktop for a second before going out. We figured out that it was a display issue, and that the display cable or something similar was definitely loose or damaged(since the MBP output fine to an external monitor).

Anyway, the phone support rep told me to back everything up and take the unit to the Apple Store, and exchange it for a new one since I've barely owned this for a couple of days. He scheduled an appointment at the Genius Bar for July 2nd, which was 2 days later. I tried to get an earlier appointment but with no luck. I sucked it up and backed up my MBP.


So, July 2nd(Today) comes along. I took my MBP in the original box with all accessories to the Apple Store Genius Bar. After waiting almost half an hour, I finally had a Genius address my issue, only to be told that since my unit was BTO (I had a 7200 RPM drive selected), I had no choice but to mail it back to Apple. I explained to the Genius that I needed this laptop for business-related purposes and couldn't afford to waste any more time. He said he could get Apple to send me a new unit first, and then I could send back the defective MBP so I wouldn't be without a laptop for god-knows-how-long.

I drove back home, pissed that I wasted my time driving to the Apple store and waiting for my appointment, only to have them tell me they can't do anything. I called up the support line to initiate the RMA/etc, only to be told that unfortunately they can't mail me a new unit without me sending back the old one first. What?! So now I'd have to wait for my faulty unit to reach Apple and get checked out, then wait another week or so for a new unit from Shanghai?! Wtf?!


ON TOP OF THAT, I was told that the department that handles RMA's had taken off on an "early" vacation.

"What vacation?!", I asked.

"Sir, it's the 4th of July".

"NO IT'S NOT, IT'S JULY 2ND'"

"Well, I'm sorry but the department has taken off early and won't be available to assist you until Monday."



Great, just GREAT. Now I have to wait some more. This is absolutely ridiculous and I don't know what to do. I can't afford to go any longer without a fully functioning laptop. Should I call again on Monday and try to convince them to do a forward-RMA and send me a replacement unit first?


Before anyone begins flaming, I'd just like to say that I have the right to be pissed - I just bought a $2700 laptop, only to have it screw up in less than 4 days, and best of all, the downtime's interrupted some of my critical work, and now it looks like it's going to be 2 weeks before I get a new working MBP.

I'm already writing to Apple to express my dissatisfaction. They need better quality control and many users don't have time to waste and play games. As a first-time Mac owner, I'm not at all happy - I'm pretty sure I paid money for a computer that's actually supposed to WORK.

Anyway, just for wasting my time I think I'm going to ask Apple nicely for something as compensation. I think the 8GB RAM upgrade might be stretching it, but realistically what do you think I should ask for?

You are just whining. We're living in a constitutional state. You have the right to get the computer exchanged if it's defective and, if you prefer, get a refund for it and do away with Apple. Move on with your life with a computer that gets the job done. The End.
 
I'm going to keep this short and sweet.

Anyone else find this ironic?

I do, and I'm currently using it. It's just about the hassle involved. A new computer should be fully functional right out of the box...

It was, for 4 days. And if you weren't expecting it to be a hassle to fix/replace, either you've never bought anything before or you're just naive.
 
You know that a computer has over 20,000 parts inside? All of which have to be in the exact position, or they will not work? These parts are welded into position to form the motherboard, the 9600, the RAM, the PSU, the small ports along the side, the optical drive, the screen, the hard drive, and all of the little electronic films that connect them. Now, I think that Apple is allowed to make some mistakes, because 1) they make amazing stuff, and 2) they do not use refurbished parts. A PC manufacturer (Dell comes to mind) uses some or most of their parts from computers that have been used already. The motherboard, the graphics card, the CPU, and the power supply are all parts that they try to use in 'new' computers. This is why PCs last only 3-4 years under one ownership. A refurbished part has already been tested during normal operation, so there is usually not a problem. But yes, I find it odd that Apple sent their people away 2 days before the 4th of July...
 
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