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It's a small black box with no over the top features to make it stand out, I find it fairy unobtrusive especially compared to some of the other things under my telly.

Besides, I've never really been prone to sitting and staring at it, I find it distracts me from what I'm watching on screen ;)
 
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Has anyone compared AirPlay on this vs atv3? I know there was some lag with my MacBook and iPhone on the atv3. Did they take care of this with atv4?
 
Personally I think this is still just a hobby for Apple. But the price? Insulting in light of the competition. I have been using Apple TVs since the second generation was released in 2010 (yes, over half a decade ago). Things haven't changed much. Last year I got the Amazon Fire Stick TV for $19 during the pre order sale. I have been amazed how much better this little thing has been compared to all of my ATVs. Smaller yet faster. The best value I have gotten in a consumer electronics devices in quite awhile.

I was hoping Apple would come up with something that would be a game-changer but the ATV4 doesn't seem to do it. I already have an app store but really only use the usual suspects: Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon Prime Video, etc.




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The unit is ugly -- certainly worse that ATV3 -- and it's expensive. What are you really getting over and above the ATV3? Crossy Road?!

Worse than ATV3? It's the same design, just taller. I wouldn't say it's ugly. I'd say it's unnoticeable, which I would guess is the whole point. Besides, with it being controlled by Bluetooth, mount it to the back of the TV or in a cabinet.

As for the apps, I don't know why people are getting so worried about apps not coming. There's going to be a flood of buyers. Where there are users, there will be developers.
 
The new processor is for gaming, switching apps might be a millisecond quicker but that's about it. Loading content is all dependent on your network connection. I honestly see no other use for the new CPU besides gaming , and unless you're super casual you'll be gaming on current gen consoles or on PC.
I can think of one very good use for the A8: multi streaming. The MLB app they demonstrated had two streams side by side (presumably at the original 1080p60 as they could instantly zoom in) plus stats and live scores on screen at once. If apps really are going to change TV's it's stuff like that which will do it and you're going to need a fair chunk of horsepower to give a good experience.
 
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I can think of one very good use for the A8: multi streaming. The MLB app they demonstrated had two streams side by side (presumably at the original 1080p60 as they could instantly zoom in) plus stats and live scores on screen at once. If apps really are going to change TV's it's stuff like that which will do it and you're going to need a fair chunk of horsepower to give a good experience.

Good point. The MLB app is by far the most technically impressive use of the new Apple TV yet.
 
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Good point. The MLB app is by far the most technically impressive use of the new Apple TV yet.

And that makes me very exited to see what Devs will come up with.

I would love it if my Apple TV would suggest videos based on articles i have in my reading list in Safari. I searched for CTE and the NFL... found an article and saved it for later. It would be nice if I turned on my ATV and an app suggested PBS documentary on that article.
 
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Many of you seem to spend more time looking at your streaming boxes themselves instead of the content they're playing on the screen. With a device like this, who really cares? But even so, when I pick up my current ATV 3, even though it's small and made of plastic, it feels like a high quality product. You can tell it's well made.

I couldn't care less what the thing looks like, just like I don't care what my AirPort Extreme looks like. It sits on a shelf and does its job all day every day.

I also have trouble taking you seriously if you think an A8 won't be better than the A5 in the current unit. It will be worlds better.
 
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I understand the temptation to pre-order, but I don't really understand why anyone would. We still don't really know what we're getting. Apple are selling the device by focusing on apps, but what apps are going to be available on Day 1? BBC iPlayer? Amazon Prime? Which video services will be searchable via Siri? Netflix?

The unit is ugly -- certainly worse that ATV3 -- and it's expensive. What are you really getting over and above the ATV3? Crossy Road?!

We already know Amazon and BBC won't be available.
 
We already know Amazon and BBC won't be available.

Amazon, maybe never, who knows. But the BBC is likely to arrive at some point and if it doesn't, well I've been using the unofficial iPlayer app and it's a pretty good stand in even at this early stage.
 
Amazon, maybe never, who knows. But the BBC is likely to arrive at some point and if it doesn't, well I've been using the unofficial iPlayer app and it's a pretty good stand in even at this early stage.

Good thing you can watch Amazon Instant Video on Apple TV via AirPlay.
 
Good thing you can watch Amazon Instant Video on Apple TV via AirPlay.

You can do that on the existing Apple TV at a fraction of the cost. Of course, you won't get screensavers that are actually videos, and you won't be able to play Crossy Road. So, you know, that's worth another $100, clearly.
 
Good thing you can watch Amazon Instant Video on Apple TV via AirPlay.


Very true, I'm personally not fussed for Amazons service but I hope that the existence of the iOS app means they will port it across at some point.

You can do that on the existing Apple TV at a fraction of the cost. Of course, you won't get screensavers that are actually videos, and you won't be able to play Crossy Road. So, you know, that's worth another $100, clearly.

You seem to like mentioning it running Crossy Road in your posts, either your on commission for advertising it, or severely ill informed about just what is coming to Apple TV.
 
You seem to like mentioning it running Crossy Road in your posts, either your on commission for advertising it, or severely ill informed about just what is coming to Apple TV.


Haha. Well, it's because they made such a big deal of it in the Keynote. People were fainting with excitement when they demonstrated that the all new Apple TV could play a game some of us were playing the 1980s when it was called Frogger.
 
Haha. Well, it's because they made such a big deal of it in the Keynote. People were fainting with excitement when they demonstrated that the all new Apple TV could play a game some of us were playing the 1980s when it was called Frogger.


That I'll agree with. I thought at the time it was an odd choice to showcase its gaming abilities. Considering some of the, significantly more impressive, games that are coming. I suppose it's that old, whatever casual game happens to be flavour of the month nonsense. Amazon did the same thing with the two player flappy bird crap for the launch of the first Fire TV.

Neither here nor there, but was it the 80's? I was sure it was the late 70's. Damn I'm getting too old to remember my youth :D
 
That I'll agree with. I thought at the time it was an odd choice to showcase its gaming abilities. Considering some of the, significantly more impressive, games that are coming. I suppose it's that old, whatever casual game happens to be flavour of the month nonsense. Amazon did the same thing with the two player flappy bird crap for the launch of the first Fire TV.

Neither here nor there, but was it the 80's? I was sure it was the late 70's. Damn I'm getting too old to remember my youth :D

Well, quite. My point is that Apple seems to me to have done a really poor job in selling this product. They say it's all about apps. OK. What apps? Er, Crossy Road. OK, well I've already got that on my Kindle Fire TV. What about BBC iPlayer? No. OK, what about Amazon Prime Video? No. Er, OK. Can we have a list of exciting apps to sell the device to us? No.

Meanwhile, people are panicking that they might not get theirs unless they preorder at 8:01 GMT.

In the 1970s all we had was that rubbish tennis game that we all thought was mind-blowing at the time. The one with two straight lines and a dot.
 
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Well, quite. My point is that Apple seems to me to have done a really poor job in selling this product. They say it's all about apps. OK. What apps? Er, Crossy Road. OK, well I've already got that on my Kindle Fire TV. What about BBC iPlayer? No. OK, what about Amazon Prime Video? No. Er, OK. Can we have a list of exciting apps to sell the device to us? No.

Meanwhile, people are panicking that they might not get theirs unless they preorder at 8:01 GMT.

In the 1970s all we had was that rubbish tennis game that we all thought was mind-blowing at the time. The one with two straight lines and a dot.


I've still got my old Pong "console" it was a Grandstand something or other, ah the memories. I've got my 30 odd other consoles set up in my office, maybe I should add that to the collection.

As for apps, well, they probably could have done a better job of showcasing it and I'm sure they will. The trouble at the moment is they just aren't talking about the apps until the AppStore goes live, which does seem a bit backward in some ways.
 
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That I'll agree with. I thought at the time it was an odd choice to showcase its gaming abilities. Considering some of the, significantly more impressive, games that are coming. I suppose it's that old, whatever casual game happens to be flavour of the month nonsense. Amazon did the same thing with the two player flappy bird crap for the launch of the first Fire TV.

Neither here nor there, but was it the 80's? I was sure it was the late 70's. Damn I'm getting too old to remember my youth :D

A tweaked version of Real Racing would have been much more impressive but I think showcasing the remote also played a part in their game choice. Me personally, I would loved to have seen them with a port of Wii Sports. We still whip that out for a family game from time to time.
 
Me personally, I would loved to have seen them with a port of Wii Sports. We still whip that out for a family game from time to time.

Now that would be a decent proposition. I'd be reaching for my wallet in that case.
 
Well, quite. My point is that Apple seems to me to have done a really poor job in selling this product. They say it's all about apps. OK. What apps? Er, Crossy Road. OK, well I've already got that on my Kindle Fire TV. What about BBC iPlayer? No. OK, what about Amazon Prime Video? No. Er, OK. Can we have a list of exciting apps to sell the device to us? No.

Meanwhile, people are panicking that they might not get theirs unless they preorder at 8:01 GMT.

In the 1970s all we had was that rubbish tennis game that we all thought was mind-blowing at the time. The one with two straight lines and a dot.
Why don't you go back and check out the keynote. They showed more than just Crossy Road there.

You know what though? Don't. Because then you'll come back here and say, "Ok, they showed other apps, but those aren't the ones I want!"

You know what? Apple doesn't know what all the apps are until they exist. TVos just launched. Give it a second.
 
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What I want to see more of is Rayman Adventures. I really liked his last two outings on the home consoles and it looks like the Apple TV game could be as good as those.
 
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