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My experience with the new iPad Pro (9.7") coming from Surface Pro 4
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Right now I'm watching the ncaa final on PIP and using tapatalk to browse some forums.
Way better than a laptop and TV combo. When 2nd half starts I can just watch the game full screen and use tapatalk on side / split screen.
If you have another PC (desktop or laptop) at home or at work, you should jump on the tablet bandwagon. No need to buy another PC device when a post PC device will meet 95% of your uses
I had a Dell Venue 11 Pro. Microsoft did a great job with Win 10. I just didn't like their software keyboard. It was too sensitive to keystrokes. The other issue is that laptop components will always produce more heat or noise than an ARM based device.
Now on the iPad Pro I have a better software keyboard and also handwriting recognition with Notes Plus and Myscript Stylus means so I have a great replacement for what Win 10 does very well. I wrote this post with the Pencil. I just miss having native network access to my desktop computers.
Now on the iPad Pro I have a better software keyboard and also handwriting recognition with Notes Plus and Myscript Stylus means so I have a great replacement for what Win 10 does very well. I wrote this post with the Pencil. I just miss having native network access to my desktop computers.
Hello. Interesting to read your comments on this. I myself have not tried a hybrid, but I can tell you my experience with an iPad Pro 12.9 inch version which I currently am testing out right now. I currently still have an iPad Air 2, while my wife has an ipad Mini 2. I bought an iPad Pro 12.9 inch to try out since I have 30 days return policy on it. I work and I'm a student so I wanted to see if this could replace my MacBook Pro and while I haven't done the full review of it all yet, I can share some initial thoughts on it. Two things that stuck out to me, one the screen. Its gorgeous. Its big and expansive and you have so much more room to multitask. I love that. Having two apps with a video playing is truly a joy on this. Second, the full size keyboard. Typing on the Air 2 was always constrained for me, so I didn't do it very much. For this 12.9 inch, I can actually type like I would a regular keyboard. While an actual keyboard is still preferable for typing (this is a touch screen), I must say I had a lot of success typing using the Word processor, etc. My school gives us Office 365 for free so I use the full suite and so far its been very impressive. Typing, saving documents in the cloud has been a snap as I have not really used the Office suite on an ipad before, it was always on my MacBook. In short, I want to see if I can go a full week without my laptop and watch if this device can handle all of my needs. So for now, that is where I'm at. Initially, I am pretty impressed and this COULD replace my iPad Air 2. We will see in a few weeks....
Seems to me the people saying they don't need a Windows OS for their daily use don't rely on windows based business applications that don't exist in the IOS vault. As an IT company our people use Labtech and Connectwise to manage our customers IT and that can't be done efficiently from any IOS device. Also, using RDP to get into a windows machine is a work around and not a solution. I love my Ipad Pro but to think I could solely use it on a daily work basis would bring serious limitations. I don't use a Surface Pro but an HP Spectra 360 (i7) and it's been great.
Also, yes those two applications do exist in IOS in a limited fashion with greatly scaled back capacity.
Also, yes those two applications do exist in IOS in a limited fashion with greatly scaled back capacity.
It also depends on what is 'work.' In my case, I need software that is simply not available for iPad. But if I just used MS office (which is very nice for iPad), I can see that I could rely on an iPad pro only.
I bought FileBrowser back when it first came out, and found it more than adequate for network access. It doesn't need to be native to work well.
Second that. Very versatile - I like that it supports streaming mp4's on a network drive to the Infuse app and viewing photos on a network drive in the PhotoMgrPro app. It can also access the USB HDD and SD card attached to my wireless FileHub.
I don't understand why my iPad with File Explorer or my Windows PC can't log in to my Mac though. I have file sharing enabled but password gets rejected. Am I missing something?
Edit: I got it. I had to click on options in File Sharing and enabled Windows File Sharing. But it is weird that I need to do that for the iPad to connect.
Edit: I got it. I had to click on options in File Sharing and enabled Windows File Sharing. But it is weird that I need to do that for the iPad to connect.
So its not for your work for sure. But are millions out ther writers,artists normal people with normal or low usage..
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So there is a file explorer for ipad? How is it? Its ok, can apple make a default one for ios10? It is usefull for many people?
It may be a "boring PC" but I love the idea of being able to run my apps that I need (lightroom, photoshop), the ability to remote into servers for my job. All in all, it does things easily that the iPad Pro cannot.
I'm not knocking the IPP, but at least for my needs, the SP3 is a better solution.
Can't an iPad do that, too? I realize the UI might not be ideal, as there is no mouse support.
I am sure there are quite a few people that can function with just an Ipad but from my experiences in IT for a very long time that scope of people are limited to what you mention vs like a Dr.s Clinic needing a large screen for EMR and the nurses needing access to PM which both are more than likely based on x86 architecture. In the corporate world I see very little IOS as a primary tool.
You can't get around not using a mouse without it being more difficult to work.
That said, if I could connect an Ipad pro to a USB 3 hub and connect via HDMI to my 23 inch monitor with keyboard and mouse when in the office I may change my mind as a primary device. I would have to be able to RDP or use Citrix into a windows VM and be able to minimize it without disconnecting.
You can't get around not using a mouse without it being more difficult to work.
That said, if I could connect an Ipad pro to a USB 3 hub and connect via HDMI to my 23 inch monitor with keyboard and mouse when in the office I may change my mind as a primary device. I would have to be able to RDP or use Citrix into a windows VM and be able to minimize it without disconnecting.
out there are more children and old people (not IT people)and normal people (not IT) that are better with an ipad because its very easy to understand and use.
for proff there is osx or windows, there is desktop or laptops, but i guess the things change for artists with this pencil that really is a wonderful device and with procreate is a combo that few can match
so we have people in IT company, that use osx or windows vs children+old people+normal/casual people+artists so i think apple is getting some of them from the old legacy with very old laptop or desktop that are used just for mail/browse/music/photos/drawing
for proff there is osx or windows, there is desktop or laptops, but i guess the things change for artists with this pencil that really is a wonderful device and with procreate is a combo that few can match
so we have people in IT company, that use osx or windows vs children+old people+normal/casual people+artists so i think apple is getting some of them from the old legacy with very old laptop or desktop that are used just for mail/browse/music/photos/drawing
That's why I mentioned the Dr.'s Clinic. In the business world (non IT people) the only companies I see using IOS as a primary tool would be like a point of sale system at a retail location. We see OSX out there for writers, CAD people and artists.
I wandered off into Surface land a few months ago. At first I was super excited, and felt like I had finally found that "all in one device." Then the new wore off. The terrible battery life, the Windows updates, and the overall cumbersome feeling involved with attempting to use it as a tablet became quite a headache. The touchscreen was not near as optimized as an iPad, and the pen was no where near as good as the Apple Pencil. It really was just a boring pc that was too heavy and unoptomized to be a good tablet, and too awkward to be a good laptop.
I will be the first to admit that the iPad Pro falls short in several key area's such as notifications, but overall, it is a much better computing experience.
Currently, my 12.9 ipp is my only computer. It is not only meeting, but exceeding my computing needs. I can definitely see how it would fall short of being a computer replacement for certain types of user's but for those like me, it's perfect.
I keep thinking I should pick up another Mac "just in case" I run into a situation where my ipp is not enough "computer" for the task at hand. I am fairly certain that the old school part of my brain is telling me this
I will be the first to admit that the iPad Pro falls short in several key area's such as notifications, but overall, it is a much better computing experience.
Currently, my 12.9 ipp is my only computer. It is not only meeting, but exceeding my computing needs. I can definitely see how it would fall short of being a computer replacement for certain types of user's but for those like me, it's perfect.
I keep thinking I should pick up another Mac "just in case" I run into a situation where my ipp is not enough "computer" for the task at hand. I am fairly certain that the old school part of my brain is telling me this
True. Work for me is software development where software I need isn't available either. However, I do have a logmein account I could use to access a real computer if needed.
I've decided that I'm going with the ipad pro.
The issue with say doctor or lawyers offices, etc, are that the specialized billing and other software isn't available for iPad always. Less so for lawyers who use cloud systems which have existed for a few years now that any device can access.
But a lot of the old school desktop software. And face it, older people/professionals have a tough time with change. A very if its not broke dont fix/change it mentality.
But it's an app issue that the software makers have at the end of the day, not really that an iPad couldn't replace the PC that software runs on.
I know from personal experience many younger lawyers are starting to use file/client management in the cloud because it's easier to access anywhere and from any type of device versus desktop only software with no remote access outside the office.