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What's the program other than JumpDesktop that supports mice? Also, you can use the Citrix X1 with Jump in addition to the supported Swiftpoint mouse.
That would be Citrix and the X1
What's the program other than JumpDesktop that supports mice? Also, you can use the Citrix X1 with Jump in addition to the supported Swiftpoint mouse.
Yes, those devices support desktop apps, but those are a stop-gap measure and not preferable. There's far more to touch-optimizing an app than magnifying UI elements.
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The hybrid concept seems to be lost on lot of posters here. The idea--imo--is that complex applications for audio and video editing will be handled in laptop mode as it is not efficient to work these types of applications in touch. Windows does suffer from a lack of touch app for simple tasks and social media, etc. For me the surface works great because it combines "pro" apps, an excellent pen solution, can be used with fullsize monitors and has a great a touch browser. I really dont need any apps.
Are you saying that you don't need apps because you have a great touch browser? Or are those two not related?The hybrid concept seems to be lost on lot of posters here. The idea--imo--is that complex applications for audio and video editing will be handled in laptop mode as it is not efficient to work these types of applications in touch. Windows does suffer from a lack of touch app for simple tasks and social media, etc. For me the surface works great because it combines "pro" apps, an excellent pen solution, can be used with fullsize monitors and has a great a touch browser. I really dont need any apps.
Sounds like you are using the desktop with touch. As I noted above--its hybrid--use desktop apps with a pointer device and touch apps and browser with touch. Some desktop apps are very touch friendly--sketch book, itunes, Others are not. The desktop ui is notthen you just have a different workflow. Its not right or wrong; there is no 1 right way or method.
Many many people likely the simplicity of iOS and iOS apps. It's also a LOT quicker to hit the power button and tap the app icon than boot a windows tablet, login, wait for windows to finish booting and launch the program.
I have a 13.3" touchscreen Lenovo, larger screen than both the Surface Pro or big iPad, and certain parts of Windows on touch are INFURIATING. All the tiny "x" and minimize buttons, and the drop downs/right click menus. It's not even close to being optimized for touch- not even a start. It's simply the old mouse OS and touch slapped on.
Sounds like you are using the desktop with touch. As I noted above--its hybrid--use desktop apps with a pointer device and touch apps and browser with touch. Some desktop apps are very touch friendly--sketch book, itunes, Others are not. The desktop ui is not
A common belief among Windows tablet users is to equate apps with app-ified websites. They'll say that they don't need a twitter app because they can access the full site via the browser. That is true. But there are far more apps that don't access a website. For those apps, a browser is not going to be very helpful.
Yoga Pro laptop. Tablet mode in Windows 10 is still joke; gives you metro UI and blows up some of the icons and adds a "back" button.
If you are "app" centric--the surface will not work for you. I have just found apps add very little to my computing experience. Onenote, sketchbook pro, ableton live, zbrush, office, mathtype...what do i need apps for? There are a lot of cool ios apps and games. In a perfect world a hybrid machine would do it all. Its all about compromises
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You'll figure it out. Maybe Chrome isnt touch optimized, maybe you are using the desktop version?
The ie touchbrowser is fine; edge is still a work in progress
You'll figure it out. Maybe Chrome isnt touch optimized, maybe you are using the desktop version?
The ie touchbrowser is fine; edge is still a work in progress
I need a tablet for artwork and tablet browsingIf you don't need apps why didn't you just use a laptop? A laptop is cheaper and better as a laptop than a hybrid....
Ah, was thinking consumer level and no server.That would be Citrix and the X1![]()
Surface has a file system = computer.............Pro 9.7 does not = tablet
The question is how secure they are. It seems to me you let some unknown developer get access to your files. One thing is to store files on iCloud or DropBox -- for their business to be viable they want to secure their files (Apple has staged its reputation on it). But how do you know what some unknown developer does with your files? Share it with some third party?That one and File Explorer appear to be the most popular solutions.
It uses standard networking protocols but maybe an app developer can chime in here and let us know if Apple checks for security issues when developers submit to the App Store.The question is how secure they are. It seems to me you let some unknown developer get access to your files. One thing is to store files on iCloud or DropBox -- for their business to be viable they want to secure their files (Apple has staged its reputation on it). But how do you know what some unknown developer does with your files? Share it with some third party?
The question is how secure they are. It seems to me you let some unknown developer get access to your files. One thing is to store files on iCloud or DropBox -- for their business to be viable they want to secure their files (Apple has staged its reputation on it). But how do you know what some unknown developer does with your files? Share it with some third party?
We have both the 12 IPad and Surface Pro 4 here. My sole use for computers is photography. I can run Photoshop on one of these, I can't on the other. The SP4 is the one that I take with me. I don't like W10, but it's adequate and works, but I confess I don't much with it. When I need a browser, I open Chrome. In general, I believe the Apple software to be more mature than what Microsoft has to offer.
I have a couple of Windows tablets, an Android tablet, my old Air 2 and now a Pro 12.9. Been using iPads since the first and tablets since the days of Android 1.5, Maemo, og WinXP tabs.
For me the iPad is mostly a work device, rather than carry around a PC - emphasis on "carry around". My workflow still includes using two PCs, the first being my desktop PC at home, the other being my work issued laptop. I use these via remote desktop software from the iPad, specifically Jump Desktop, which is one of only two I know of that supports a mouse (not mice in general - literally 1 mouse). It also auto-adjusts RDP resolution based on device resolution, so entering split view on the iPad changes the remote computer resolution to match that new half screen. Just earlier today I made annotations on an image using the apple pen in remote windows 10 while the other half of the screen had notes open in iOS.
To me this solution works well. As you say, a Surface is a poor tablet and an average PC (at best). It's become better since the days of Windows XP tablets a decade ago, but far from as much as you'd think, and nowhere near as far as the iPad has come in the last few years alone. With one type of device unable to improve itself, it makes sense having that device as an app on the better device, always there via 4G (which works surprisingly well).
It's not like the developers of apps like FileBrowser and File Explorer (and Documents and Good Reader and countless other apps) ever get any access to your files. You are just using their app to move your files around over your own wifi network. They don't go anywhere out in the cloud. Well, you can hook these apps up to services like Dropbox, but then the files go to Dropbox, not to the developer of the file management app.
As such I think that what the world needs is a Macbook dock for an iPad - letting the screen and digitizer you're already paying for be used with an x86-based CPU and GPU dock for running macOS/Windows when you need it. People will disagree with me on this, but I feel Windows is becoming like a DVD drive at this point - not something you need to have permanently attached.