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My iPhone 4 has officially been put to shame

ap3604 said:
Not to mention this thing is going to start at a price of $150 w/2 year contract at Amazon/Costco when it comes out in the next month.

4g, 1GB ram, 4' screen, Dual core, 1930mAh battery, qHD display, laptop dock that charges phone while working, google maps navigation AND $50 less than almost all other smartphones all while it is leading the field?... :eek:
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AND expandable to 48Gigs. That's a lot of memory. This phone looks pretty sick. I can't wait to see how it fairs in real life.
 
Lame, it's just a stupid CG animation. Why is this a cycle we have to keep repeating? Atleast compare the real thing to a real iPhone.

And what's with Moto again using poor looking CG from 1990?
 
JD914 said:
Well said! A few here criticize Motorola as "cheap plastic" but how fast they forget what a fiasco Apple's "30x harder than plastic" glass turned out.

You want to talk cheap? Begin with Apples poor choice iPhone 4's glass.


A drop from less than a foot and it's shattered......thats cheap.
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That is really a tired and overused point. If you take care of your phone and don't drop it, then the glass is not an issue. Furthermore one class action law suit in California is hardly a "fiasco", unless there have been other suits that I am unfamiliar with.

Besides this phone from Motorola hasn't even hit the market yet. So we have no idea as to what kind durability it will have.
 
countrydweller said:
Glass breaks, drop your atrix when you get one. If you want a durable phone put an otterbox on it....
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Great argument. I believe logical fallacy - straw man is what you just displayed: attacking a minor issue trying to defeat the bigger argument. Apple promoted their "30x harder than plastic" glass that was suppose to be super effective and durable. Now, they have a class action lawsuit pinned against them because the iPhone 4 shatters more than the 3GS does.
 
A friend of mine breaks an iPhone every half a year. Another friend of mine breaks a Blackberry every half a year. What's the commonality? They don't take care of their phones. The iPhone isn't any less strong than any other phone - it's just a myth.
 
milani said:
You can make a call from your notebook? Great, but when would you ever need to do that?
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The SMS/chat integration is a good idea, but that's entirely on the software side of things and certainly doesn't require a rear-mounted notebook dock to accomplish. Bluetooth would suffice.
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That wasn't a notebook. It was a brainless workstation with the phone as the brain - in that case, Bluetooth wouldn't really be practical as it would be a waste of batter, and if you are going to plug the phone in, why not dock it?

Even if it's a simply plug and play as the video makes it seem, I'd rather not have to kill my workstation just to answer a call or SMS, so the integration is pretty cool too.

If that was a normal notebook, yeah, I'd agree the dock was oddly placed, but for what it's intended for it's the best place that it doesn't get in the way.
 
I'm in the market for an android phone (so I can develop for iOS, WP7, and Android, as I already have the first 2), and this looks like it may be the one.

I have an upgrade on my family plan available for me to use, but I'm gonna wait and see what the iPhone 5 brings.

Currently I use my WP7 phone as my primary handset, just using my iPhone 4 for games and developing. If the iPhone 5 is enough to break me away from the WP7 phone, I'll go with that. If not, I'm going to add an android phone to my collection. That "webtop" looks like itd be great for lugging around campus instead of my 15" MBP. Much lighter and more portable
 
After having an EVO for 6 months I learned my lesson. Android is far to new and buggy. Apple's software, although outdated is still feature rich, solid and fast.
 
JD914 said:
Well said! A few here criticize Motorola as "cheap plastic" but how fast they forget what a fiasco Apple's "30x harder than plastic" glass turned out.

You want to talk cheap? Begin with Apples poor choice iPhone 4's glass.


A drop from less than a foot and it's shattered......thats cheap.
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Exactly.

I hear people owning a brick like a Dell Streak. It gets dropped like crazy and no scratches because it has Gorilla Glass.

I am not trying to diss iPhone 4. I love the one I have. But I don't like folks talking crap about a phone that isn't even out yet. Apple is marketing people into ignorance and the rose-colored glasses needs to come off. Not like I need some reassurance by talking that way about an unreleased product.

I am not as interested with the Atrix 4G as much anymore because of the recent Sony NGP announcement that looks to be on another generation than any phone or tablet coming out of 2011 and the fact NVIDIA TEGRA 3 quad core should be released by next year. Last year, our top phones went to 1Ghz single core. This year is all about dual core. Next year should be all about quad core. I will wait for that one.
 
Early/Pre-release reviews have not been positive. Idea is good, implementation, not so much... Hopefully it'll spur other makers to continue to improve. I wouldn't trade my iP4 for it. Especially, with the iP5 on the horizon. I think the question needs to be asked: Where/how are we going to differentiate our smartphones and our computers. I don't know if I want to be computing on a 4" screen and I'm also not a fan right now of "cloud" computing.

I think the potential for Cloud computing is there, but at the same time, unless the data speeds improve on networks and their reliability as well, cloud computing and mobile computing are a ways off.

Coachingguy
 
This is WAY too predictable. That video is the perfect summation of why the iPhone is amazing.

The general consensus of all phone manufacturers, especially HTC and Motorola, is that bigger = better.

They assume that if the iPhone is 5MP, then 10MP is better. If the iPhone has a 3.5" screen, a 4.3" screen is better. If the iPhone has 1 core, then 2 cores is better.

The problem is the experience. Would you rather have a 1000HP car with 50" wheels, 40 exhaust pipes, 15 gears and 12 wheel drive OR a perfectly balanced and ergonomically designed work of art?

The iPhone will not be bested because at the end of the day only e-peen obsessed geeks will care how many cores it has.

I can't wait to buy a phone that needs 7 docks to make it work.
 
Rajani Isa said:
That wasn't a notebook. It was a brainless workstation with the phone as the brain - in that case, Bluetooth wouldn't really be practical as it would be a waste of batter, and if you are going to plug the phone in, why not dock it?

Even if it's a simply plug and play as the video makes it seem, I'd rather not have to kill my workstation just to answer a call or SMS, so the integration is pretty cool too.

If that was a normal notebook, yeah, I'd agree the dock was oddly placed, but for what it's intended for it's the best place that it doesn't get in the way.
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I suppose my point was that for the few times that you'd actually use this type of notebook-shell-phone setup, you might as well go the extra mile and buy yourself a notebook with a desktop class OS. I could see this type of thing eventually coming to fruition, but not anytime soon; and if it did happen, the shell would have to be incredibly inexpensive. The question is: would enough people buy it to make it a profitable enterprise for Motorola? I doubt it.

As far as the Google maps/phone example, there is no reason you need to plug your phone into a huge screen to accomplish that. One could easily switch between SMS and Google Maps - it's just not a practical example. If they showed someone doing research I would be more inclined to buy the value-proposition; but coordinating the ordering of a pizza does not require an expensive add-on like a netbook shell.

And as far as the TV goes, as I said, airplay would accomplish the same thing, except you WOULDN'T need yet another IR blaster remote/dock. This technology already exists on Windows and Mac. In the former case you can stream media through your Xbox, while in the latter you can stream media to your Apple TV. I just don't see the value-proposition - Android would be better off to just integrate into these pre-existing systems.

I'm not saying it isn't interesting technology, but I don't see this as something that is go-to-market worthy. It would be a great technology demo, sort of like Microsoft's many many future devices like touch screen coffee tables and alike. But it jus doesn't seem like something that is worth trying to sell to the public.

All of these shell devices would ONLY work with the Motorola phone. I doubt that most consumers would want to lock themselves into all of these proprietary add-ons unless they absolutely needed to; and given the rate that new Android devices are launched, this phone could be eclipsed within a week of its release anyway.
 
Anyone can make a phone look good in an animation like that. Not saying that the specs aren't impressive on the device, but I'm not as interested in specs as I am in the entire experience. For me, the iPhone is still the best choice.
 
The Atrix and Bionic are the only Android phones that came out of CES that had me saying those are some sweet phones. The rest of them are using last year specs in their phones. At least with these phones you're getting dual core 1GHz processors and 1GHz ram in the Atrix 768MB in the Bionic. I like that with these phones they're going to make it that Apple has to put these kind of specs in the future iPhones which is good for use iPhone users.

I can't understand why these phones are being shipped with Android 2.2, what a joke. Brand new phone that doesn't have the newest OS on it, and I know you can root the phone to get 2.3 but still...
 
I guess that the public has entirely forgot that the main use of these devices is to send and receive voice calls.

Look at everything that they can do now, including streaming video to flat screens and video conferencing.

The only use for my phone besides quick emails is using it as a phone. For everything else I use my iPad. After browsing on the iPad going back to the small iPhone screen is torture.

It would not be a far leap to think that once the Android Tablets hit the market on mass that the Droid phone users will find that the mobile experience on their tablet dwarfs that of their phone.
 
One of the many reasons that Apple has lost the mobile space to Android.

Hat tip to Moto, a few years ago the carvers were deciding when to inscribe the date of death of its cell phone division. Now....wow. They are making the iPhone look like a Razor.
 
That doesn't seem too much better than the iPhone 4? Sure it is a little bit faster, but that's about it. I still prefer the iOS UI over Android.
 
We'll see how this phone compares to iPhone 5. FaceTime only wifi is stupid but you can easily jailbreak and use it over 3G
 
lsvtecjohn3 said:
I can't understand why these phones are being shipped with Android 2.2, what a joke. Brand new phone that doesn't have the newest OS on it, and I know you can root the phone to get 2.3 but still...
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Because Android fragmentation is real, despite how much the Android fanboys protest that it's not. All of these new Android "super phones" from Motorola, HTC, etc. are all shipping with Android 2.2. The only phone shipping with 2.3 is the Nexus S. Even the Nexus One, offering the "pure" Android experience direct from Google, has not been updated with 2.3. Now Google is showing off 3.0, which will leave these new phones even further behind. Sure you can always root your phone, but that opens up an entirely new can of worms in terms of stability.

Read some Android forums, and you'll see bugs that make iPhone 4 antenna-gate look like a joke. Random reboots. No GPS signal lock. Texts sent to the wrong recipient. Deletion of all stored texts. Fixes promised "soon".

Android fanboy posts are filled with what Android will do, not what it does do. Anyone can make a CGI animation of a supposed super phone. Let's see what happens when they have to deploy a real product in high volumes ...
 
Full of Win said:
One of the many reasons that Apple has lost the mobile space to Android.

Hat tip to Moto, a few years ago the carvers were deciding when to inscribe the date of death of its cell phone division. Now....wow. They are making the iPhone look like a Razor.
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insert facepalm here.

Jordan921 said:
We'll see how this phone compares to iPhone 5. FaceTime only wifi is stupid but you can easily jailbreak and use it over 3G
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Don't blame Apple for FaceTime over 3G that's the carriers fault for that
 
foodle said:
Because Android fragmentation is real, despite how much the Android fanboys protest that it's not. All of these new Android "super phones" from Motorola, HTC, etc. are all shipping with Android 2.2. The only phone shipping with 2.3 is the Nexus S. Even the Nexus One, offering the "pure" Android experience direct from Google, has not been updated with 2.3. Now Google is showing off 3.0, which will leave these new phones even further behind. Sure you can always root your phone, but that opens up an entirely new can of worms in terms of stability.

Read some Android forums, and you'll see bugs that make iPhone 4 antenna-gate look like a joke. Random reboots. No GPS signal lock. Texts sent to the wrong recipient. Deletion of all stored texts. Fixes promised "soon".

Android fanboy posts are filled with what Android will do, not what it does do. Anyone can make a CGI animation of a supposed super phone. Let's see what happens when they have to deploy a real product in high volumes ...
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The Nexus One still hasn't gotten the 2.3 update yet? Dear load Android is a joke. For all the **** Apple gets because you have to jailbreak to get certain apps with Android you have to root to get updates and to get bloatware off the phone.

I don't think there will ever be an Android phone that sales like crazy. The top of the line Android phones only sale 2-3 million tops then another Android phone will come out and replace it.
 
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