Yeah, I have. And although my device's data does not match what my carrier shows, it's still a lot of more data than I'm used to using. Oh, well, it's the sign of the times.
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My iPhone 5 Data is THROUGH THE ROOF!
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Yeah, I have. And although my device's data does not match what my carrier shows, it's still a lot of more data than I'm used to using. Oh, well, it's the sign of the times.
I've used 4.5gb the first week of my cycle so far. On pace for over 18 gigs used this month. Luckily I still have my unlimited data grandfathered since I paid full price. I used to always use wifi and now I'm 100% on LTE because the speeds are that much faster. I've been watching a lot of Netflix shows and streaming music and running speed tests. I called Verizon just to verify they do not throttle LTE and they said they do not so I will keep up the crazy amount of data I'm using via LTE lol.
They don't throttle because it would against their purchase terms of the 700MHz C-block spectrum from the FCC. They were fined over $1M for blocking 3rd party tethering apps and other limitations.
I love how the grandfathered trolls keep popping their heads in screaming, "Hey guys, did I mentioned I have unlimited data?"
Yes, we get it, this thread is not for you. Start your own thread, thanks.
Yes, we get it, this thread is not for you. Start your own thread, thanks.
I forgot about that tethering thing happening and never paid much attention even though i should have. I tried a out a Galaxy s3 for a month or so and added the unlimited hotspot for $20. Worked perfect..At the same time i remember this story about verizon getting fined for blocking 3rd party apps.
Does this mean i can just use a 3rd party tethering app and just tether for free?
People with grandfathered unlimited data plans did start their own threads, but then all these tiered plan whiners would join and start insulting people.
It's kind of a grey area when it comes to unlimited data plan folks. The FCC terms don't specifically speak to this. I suppose you could tether using 3rd party apps without paying the $30/month unlimited 4G hotspot ($20/month was a limited promo price). However, in your contract with Verizon, there's some language that says if you use their network to do anything unauthorized, they can terminate your subscription, etc etc.
I bit the bullet and just paid the $30/month fee so I can rape the LTE connection with peace of mind.
When it's readily available at the store for my wife to get an iPhone 5, I'll add the hotspot for her line too.
I'm certainly not whining, nor do I want to insult anyone. I'm just trying to understand how under 3G I never went over 2GB and now I'm flying through it.
its already been explained multiple times in this thread.
Its like 3g is a Prius, and LTE is a Ferrari. You can drive them both the exact same places and the Ferrari will use more gas.
Then the owner of the Ferrari looking at the Prius owner and saying "How can that be that I used more gas, we drove the same route?"
I streamed music for several hours and checked email and browsed for several hours and used navigation yesterday and used about 200MB.
This is not at all the correct analogy. If you want to talk about it in terms of cars and how fast you get places, then the correct analogy is:
Its like 3g is a Prius and LTE is a Ferrari, but only in the sense that it is a really ****** Prius (or really awesome Ferrari), where both cars get exactly the same MPG no matter what speed you drive, so that you can drive both cars the same distance, but get there much faster in the Ferrari (all the while spending the same amount of money in gas).
As many others already said, if more data is now being used, it is only because either
1. there are additional services running consuming said data, so you should stop using them
or
2. there's another bug similar to the verizon wifi bug causing additional data to be wrongly consumed (complain to apple and lets get this fixed)
Constantly downloading data
I have had an issue with constantly downloading data and seem to have figured out at least one problem. Here is an email outlining what I found to the Apple Senior Advisor I have been working with:
Terrence,
I had the issue with my phone constantly downloading data reoccur and seem to have pinpointed what is going on. I use the program Scanner Pro by Readdle to scan and store my receipts. I have iCloud sync turned on so that I can see the receipts that I scan with my iPhone on my iPad. I reinstalled Scanner Pro today and noticed that it was having trouble syncing one of the documents. My phone was getting warm and low and behold it had downloaded and was continuing to download hundreds of megabytes of data over wifi. I uninstalled the program, but the downloading continued. I then turned my phone off and back on, but the downloading continued. I finally tried turning off iCloud documents and data and it stopped. After this, I turned documents and data back on and it started again. Lastly, I turned off "use cellular data" for documents and data, turned off wifi, and the data stopped downloading. Turn wifi back on and it starts downloading again. To confirm this, I did a fresh restore and repeated this same process with only Scanner Pro installed on my phone and was able to replicate the results. It appears that iCloud is continuing to try to push this file to my phone indefinitely. I hope that you can forward this on to the engineering department as I am sure that there are probably other apps that are affected. It seems that turning off documents and data, or at the very least turning off "use cellular data" for documents and data is a reasonable stop gap, but certainly not a viable solution. Let me know if there is anything else I need to do in order to help get this fixed.
Thank you,
Natebookpro
I have had an issue with constantly downloading data and seem to have figured out at least one problem. Here is an email outlining what I found to the Apple Senior Advisor I have been working with:
Terrence,
I had the issue with my phone constantly downloading data reoccur and seem to have pinpointed what is going on. I use the program Scanner Pro by Readdle to scan and store my receipts. I have iCloud sync turned on so that I can see the receipts that I scan with my iPhone on my iPad. I reinstalled Scanner Pro today and noticed that it was having trouble syncing one of the documents. My phone was getting warm and low and behold it had downloaded and was continuing to download hundreds of megabytes of data over wifi. I uninstalled the program, but the downloading continued. I then turned my phone off and back on, but the downloading continued. I finally tried turning off iCloud documents and data and it stopped. After this, I turned documents and data back on and it started again. Lastly, I turned off "use cellular data" for documents and data, turned off wifi, and the data stopped downloading. Turn wifi back on and it starts downloading again. To confirm this, I did a fresh restore and repeated this same process with only Scanner Pro installed on my phone and was able to replicate the results. It appears that iCloud is continuing to try to push this file to my phone indefinitely. I hope that you can forward this on to the engineering department as I am sure that there are probably other apps that are affected. It seems that turning off documents and data, or at the very least turning off "use cellular data" for documents and data is a reasonable stop gap, but certainly not a viable solution. Let me know if there is anything else I need to do in order to help get this fixed.
Thank you,
Natebookpro
You miss the whole point, they dont get the same mileage, thats my point. You will use more on LTE doing the same things. Dont believe me, check macrumors there are threads about it all over.
So are you saying there's a 10% difference in data consumed for the Netflix episode? I think I'm confused...
? The original analogy tries to point at cost of data being different, when it's not. The LTE to 3G cost difference concerning bytes if $0.
LTE may be faster, but the fact it is faster does not alone make it consume more data.
When you upgrade from a scooter to a 600CC sports bike, don't you want to throttle it a bit faster, further, or longer? You sure you'd ride it just the same as when you were on your old scooter?
Sure .. same distance does not require further mileage. But having a speedier bike, you'd change your riding style. Given a more powerful engine, you'd want MORE. More distance, more mileage, more everything. The Need For Speed(TM).
In the old dial-up days, a 5 MB MP3 file used to be a massive load, Oh crap then I need to find 4 floppy disks just to fit it in! Today? Yes 5MB today is just as big as 5MB in 1998, nothing's changed .. except you don't feel fear or threatened by it anymore. You can get it in a couple of secs today, just as fast as you can get 50kB of data back then.
How many people would download a 4GB of software/video back then? How about today?
So yes ... faster network will lead to increased usage. Sooner or later. Data might be the same size, yet you'd change your behavior of surfing the internet and handling your data.
Not that hard to understand, does it?
Sure .. same distance does not require further mileage. But having a speedier bike, you'd change your riding style. Given a more powerful engine, you'd want MORE. More distance, more mileage, more everything. The Need For Speed(TM).
In the old dial-up days, a 5 MB MP3 file used to be a massive load, Oh crap then I need to find 4 floppy disks just to fit it in! Today? Yes 5MB today is just as big as 5MB in 1998, nothing's changed .. except you don't feel fear or threatened by it anymore. You can get it in a couple of secs today, just as fast as you can get 50kB of data back then.
How many people would download a 4GB of software/video back then? How about today?
So yes ... faster network will lead to increased usage. Sooner or later. Data might be the same size, yet you'd change your behavior of surfing the internet and handling your data.
Not that hard to understand, does it?
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When you upgrade from a scooter to a 600CC sports bike, don't you want to throttle it a bit faster, further, or longer? You sure you'd ride it just the same as when you were on your old scooter?
Sure .. same distance does not require further mileage. But having a speedier bike, you'd change your riding style. Given a more powerful engine, you'd want MORE. More distance, more mileage, more everything. The Need For Speed(TM).
In the old dial-up days, a 5 MB MP3 file used to be a massive load, Oh crap then I need to find 4 floppy disks just to fit it in! Today? Yes 5MB today is just as big as 5MB in 1998, nothing's changed .. except you don't feel fear or threatened by it anymore. You can get it in a couple of secs today, just as fast as you can get 50kB of data back then.
So yes ... faster network will lead to increased usage. Sooner or later.
Not that hard to understand, does it?
And what happens when someone's usage doesn't change at all? That's what people are experiencing and complaining about.
Everyone should quit withe the analogies, you are confusing the sh_t out of yourselves
As I stated in another thread, I'm on att and in 12 days I hit the 5gb to start being throttled. I don't watch Netflix, I don't stream audio, I did probably a dozen speed tests, used Facebook to upload a dozen or so pictures, maybe watched two YouTube videos, used safari as normal, and still hit 5gb. I think there is a bug on the att iPhones, also. Everyone should call and complain.
It didn't get me anywhere, but I made sure they noted it in my account about my complaint so if anything does arise, I have a little bit of proof. I also use wifi 75% of the time, always at home and anywhere I go through out the day. Oh well. I hope lots of people stand up for this. You never know....
It didn't get me anywhere, but I made sure they noted it in my account about my complaint so if anything does arise, I have a little bit of proof. I also use wifi 75% of the time, always at home and anywhere I go through out the day. Oh well. I hope lots of people stand up for this. You never know....
No you don't unless it's a streaming service (like Netflix). Email and web browsing use EXACTLY the same data on both 3G and LTE. This is the point you keep failing to understand, it's only streaming like video streaming that this is different.
If you limit data to non-streaming items, then you will get EXACTLY the same data usage with 3G and LTE.
So what about throttling unlimited users like me while on LTE??? D we have any reports on this yet??kinda worries me
I don't buy into these analogies, they sound like made up crap. I don't want to cry conspiracy yet, but something's wrong either on the firmware side or the carriers are raping us blind...
I understand 100% I have said multiple times that in a laboratory setting with timed touches on links the data would be the same (non streaming) but in real life you refresh more, and load more pages. And have a higher revisit rate. That's what you guys aren't understanding. You can not recreate the 3G environment on LTE it just doesn't work in the real world.
I am a fast reader and a faster browser. In the time it used to take one page to load on 3G on LTE I can have already gone on the the next site or link.
Now a slower moving person will not notice as much of a change. Does that make sense to everyone. Your not doing the same thing. You are visiting the same sites but at a faster rate = more data used. How much faster is LTE about four or five times faster. You will not see a 1 to 1 change but you will see a change.
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Did I mention? I have an unlimited data plan.
Just telling my story of "unusually" high usage.
It's more than likely an iOS issue, as I'm using a 4S, here's why:
Friday night I went to get the free Homeland season two preview from iTunes. It says "processing" for a while. I go to bed and figure it will roll in overnight. Well, in the morning it still says "processing", and a podcast I started to download that same evening says "downloading". Both haven't budged an inch since I went to bed. I head off to work and assume I'll have to delete them and re-download them again when I get home, as I'm on a 2Gb plan.
Well, considering I'm on my first week of my data plan, and I never get near the 2Gb limit, I found it odd that I got a message around noon stating that I have used 50% of my data allowance, followed by another an hour or so later stark g that I just passed my 75% mark, and finally a third message stats that I have officially exceeded my data allowance for the entire month. I promptly turn of cellular data and wait until invest home to investigate over wifi.
The status of the podcast and the TV show haven't changed. I assumed the phone was trying to fetch them over cellular, but not to the tune of 3Gb. I downloaded them both via my MacBook Pro and moved them overs manually. I figured I had it solved and went to bed.
Having charged my phone from midnight to 6am, I was surprised when it was down to 10% battery by 8:00 am. It quickly died and I knew that the issue was still present. Later that afternoon I emailed apple regarding the issue, all the while leaving my cellular data off to prevent myself from going over my data limit 4x.
Apple emailed back and suggested I contact my carrier or make a Genius Bar appointment. I went with the latter. My good friends work at the Apple store and I wasn't going to bug them before I was seen. Well, I met one of them outside the store and he saw my appointment and comments. He said they think it's the new iOS, causing the iPhone to utilize cellular even when wifi is present. I was seen and, of course, they recommended restoring it. We did, and I'm home now. Currently downloading my apps an such. I'm not too sure the issue is fixed, though, as things are rolling in real slow and my data plan shows a modest hit, which I will be monitoring closely, as I'm showing that I'm connected via wifi. The stalled downloads are gone, but I think the issue may still be present. I'll follow up when I have a clearer picture of where I'm at.
Friday night I went to get the free Homeland season two preview from iTunes. It says "processing" for a while. I go to bed and figure it will roll in overnight. Well, in the morning it still says "processing", and a podcast I started to download that same evening says "downloading". Both haven't budged an inch since I went to bed. I head off to work and assume I'll have to delete them and re-download them again when I get home, as I'm on a 2Gb plan.
Well, considering I'm on my first week of my data plan, and I never get near the 2Gb limit, I found it odd that I got a message around noon stating that I have used 50% of my data allowance, followed by another an hour or so later stark g that I just passed my 75% mark, and finally a third message stats that I have officially exceeded my data allowance for the entire month. I promptly turn of cellular data and wait until invest home to investigate over wifi.
The status of the podcast and the TV show haven't changed. I assumed the phone was trying to fetch them over cellular, but not to the tune of 3Gb. I downloaded them both via my MacBook Pro and moved them overs manually. I figured I had it solved and went to bed.
Having charged my phone from midnight to 6am, I was surprised when it was down to 10% battery by 8:00 am. It quickly died and I knew that the issue was still present. Later that afternoon I emailed apple regarding the issue, all the while leaving my cellular data off to prevent myself from going over my data limit 4x.
Apple emailed back and suggested I contact my carrier or make a Genius Bar appointment. I went with the latter. My good friends work at the Apple store and I wasn't going to bug them before I was seen. Well, I met one of them outside the store and he saw my appointment and comments. He said they think it's the new iOS, causing the iPhone to utilize cellular even when wifi is present. I was seen and, of course, they recommended restoring it. We did, and I'm home now. Currently downloading my apps an such. I'm not too sure the issue is fixed, though, as things are rolling in real slow and my data plan shows a modest hit, which I will be monitoring closely, as I'm showing that I'm connected via wifi. The stalled downloads are gone, but I think the issue may still be present. I'll follow up when I have a clearer picture of where I'm at.