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BTTM, out of curiousity, have you strutted in front of your full-length mirror yet - guns in hand, jaw out, drawling " I am the llaaahhhhwww."?

Or relatedly, a similar version, only with you naked except for a holster, for the wife?

Because if not, then what's the point really?
 
mactastic said:
Home Depot has a cheap-o gun safe for about $300. I'd recommend it because your girl will have friends who might not be as firearm savvy as she is. There are also legal implications surrounding unlocked guns. $300 is cheap peace-of-mind insurance for those types of things.
Very good point.

You can never be too careful.

The OP might even look into a small gun vault (mine was about $500) since he is getting an AR-15 as well.

BTW, love mine (AR-15). Sweet shooting.
 
sushi said:
Very good point.

You can never be too careful.

The OP might even look into a small gun vault (mine was about $500) since he is getting an AR-15 as well.

BTW, love mine (AR-15). Sweet shooting.
You have a 15? Sweet. I am getting the new hologram sight and the tactical light of course.

Can't wait for it, I qualified with an M-16 in the military but have never shot a 15. I have heard that it is actually smoother action, and less recoil, if that is possible :)
 
blackfox said:
BTTM, out of curiousity, have you strutted in front of your full-length mirror yet - guns in hand, jaw out, drawling " I am the llaaahhhhwww."?

Or relatedly, a similar version, only with you naked except for a holster, for the wife?

Because if not, then what's the point really?

That should be the quote of the year!

I carry it everyday on my side holstered, and I have to admit, it feels good.
 
Backtothemac said:
You have a 15? Sweet. I am getting the new hologram sight and the tactical light of course.

Can't wait for it, I qualified with an M-16 in the military but have never shot a 15. I have heard that it is actually smoother action, and less recoil, if that is possible :)
Something like this:

http://www.impactguns.com/store/COLT-LE6920BF.html

Very nice. Seems more heavy/solid than the old M-16.
 
Is this whole thread tongue in cheek or are you all seriously promoting gun acquisition, and the best rounds to kill with. :eek: :confused:
Somedays I really don't like humanity :mad:
 
Maybe this is a sore spot for me, but in all reality what are guns for? Killing people.
Sure it might be fun to shot at inanimate objects and watch them fly apart, but what is the real underlying reason for them? You're contemplating taking another's life in a very quick, and quite successful, manner. And even if all you might do is shooting at inanimate things, you open a world of possibilities, not just for yourself, but for those around you.
Sorry to bring a downer to the thread. I just don't like guns.

Ignore my posts and continue with your revelling.
 
neocell said:
Maybe this is a sore spot for me, but in all reality what are guns for? Killing people.
Sure it might be fun to shot at inanimate objects and watch them fly apart, but what is the real underlying reason for them? You're contemplating taking another's life in a very quick, and quite successful, manner. And even if all you might do is shooting at inanimate things, you open a world of possibilities, not just for yourself, but for those around you.
Sorry to bring a downer to the thread. I just don't like guns.

Ignore my posts and continue with your revelling.
I can respect your position on the issue of guns. No problems. But you are wrong on the purpose of the weapon. The purpose is to defend. If someone breaks into my house and has a gun, and I don't. Then I am at their mercy. If a cop doesn't have a gun, then he is at the mercy of the person that does have one. Some people do bad things with guns. You should not like bad people with bad intentions having guns. Law minding people however you should feel good about them having them.

I am an certified Marksman, and was a weapons instructor in the U.S. Navy. I have fired nearly every type of firearm that the military uses, M-16, Mp5, 50 cal, M60, etc, etc. I am safer in my home with a firearm than someone that doesn't have one. You can bank on that.

And one other thing. If I have decide between me going home to my family, or some idiot that is breaking the law going home, well, I am always going home to my kid.

If I have to decide between my family and the idiot that is breaking into my house to kill me and my wife and kidnap my daughter, well, my wife and I and our daughter are going to have breakfest the next day, the idiot isn't.
 
Backtothemac said:
I can respect your position on the issue of guns. No problems. But you are wrong on the purpose of the weapon. ..snip..
I understand what you are saying after the "snip" but the way I see it (and this is just me, I'm not trying to say everyone should see it this way) is that you're not helping the problem but potentially adding to it.
I'm not saying that you're a loon, going to go off putting caps in everyone's ass you randomly choose, but what happens if someone else gets a hold of the guns that you have bought?
What if some cracked up fool comes in to rob your house, sees your gun and decides to start shooting first, rather than take your t.v.
I know these are all hypothetical "what if" situations, though I guess what I'm trying to convey is that I believe that my beliefs are sound, and that I'm not wrong (as you sort of indicated I was, not sure if I'm actually reading that right).
I do realize that people will have other beliefs and concoct other hypothetical situations where having guns is correct, but balls to bones the fabric of me says Guns are Wrong.
I know this sounds preachy of me (and I apologize) but getting a gun to protect yourself from a gun just seems short sighted and wrong. There's too much bad that can come from them, even if they were initially garnered with the best intentions.
If you job requires that you have a gun, I'm sorry that you have such a job but obviously I can understand the need. I just don't like this I need a gun to protect myself at home (or everywhere outside of work(if your work requires you need a gun for protection services)).
I must point out, I do live in a place where I feel very much safe and at ease, so it makes it much easier for me to have this point of view, but even so you're either adding to the problem or, potentially, not making it worse, but in absolutely no way are you making it better.

**EDIT**
Oh yeah, and the purpose of a gun is to injure or kill, that may be a defense but it's purpose is still to injure or kill (grand global purpose, not yours specifically, I'm guessing) :)
 
neocell said:
Is this whole thread tongue in cheek or are you all seriously promoting gun acquisition, and the best rounds to kill with. :eek: :confused:
Somedays I really don't like humanity :mad:
At last...I had begun to despair about this thread
 
Before this thread goes OT and ends in the Politics section I just wanna say good job for stepping up and helping out in your community BTTM.:)


Lethal
 
I've just realised that the guy has a website telling us where he lives, showing pictures of his house and has told us that he has a bunch of unsecured weapons. Sometimes I am simply amazed.
 
LethalWolfe said:
Before this thread goes OT and ends in the Politics section I just wanna say good job for stepping up and helping out in your community BTTM.:)


Lethal
I apologize if I have helped this thread get off topic. Like LethalWolfe, I must commend you for wanting to make your community safer.
Cheers to that

As I said before, back to the original topic and continue the revelling
 
Backtothemac said:
I can respect your position on the issue of guns. No problems. But you are wrong on the purpose of the weapon. The purpose is to defend. If someone breaks into my house and has a gun, and I don't. Then I am at their mercy. If a cop doesn't have a gun, then he is at the mercy of the person that does have one. Some people do bad things with guns. You should not like bad people with bad intentions having guns. Law minding people however you should feel good about them having them.

Ultimately, I think it comes down to the area/community a person live in. If you live in an area where home invasions are common and criminals are likely to be armed, being armed could make a lot of sense.

If on the other hand you live somewhere where armed crime is very rare, the need to have a firearm in the house becomes a lot more questionable.
 
whooleytoo said:
If on the other hand you live somewhere where armed crime is very rare, the need to have a firearm in the house becomes a lot more questionable.

Armed crime is rare around me, but I'm more worried about animals. I've seen coyotes within 10' of my house, and heard packs of them running down the wash about 50' away. I've personally seen bobcats, and talked to people who have seen cougars on the property I live on. Any response from an armed law officer is at least 15 minutes away.

Edit: Oh yeah, and lets not forget the rattlesnakes. I prefer to let them live, but I'm no Crocodile Hunter...
 
mactastic said:
Armed crime is rare around me, but I'm more worried about animals. I've seen coyotes within 10' of my house, and heard packs of them running down the wash about 50' away. I've personally seen bobcats, and talked to people who have seen cougars on the property I live on. Any response from an armed law officer is at least 15 minutes away.

Well, there's another case I hadn't considered, which I've never had to face!

A friend's uncle lives in the outback in Australia, and some of the stories he has about animals wandering around the porch/house would scare the daylights out of me.

The only thing I could imagine needing a gun for here would be a nasty infestation of packs of politicians come every election time..
 
calculus said:
I've just realised that the guy has a website telling us where he lives, showing pictures of his house and has told us that he has a bunch of unsecured weapons. Sometimes I am simply amazed.

Wow, that was a nice insult.


First, let me say, that I don't want this to slip to the political forums. If you don't like guns, don't want them around you, then by all means, don't comment in the thread and hijack it to some political agenda.

Second. As for what calculus said. Yes, I have a site with pics of my house, so what. Can you or anyone else here, or anyone on the net find it? And who said my weapons are unsecured? I said I don't have them in a safe, that doesn't mean they are not secured. I have a trigger lock and a slide lock on both weapons.

So in the end. Please don't hijack my thread. If you don't like guns, Pm me and I will argue with you till the day is long. Someone owning a gun to protect themselves doesn't make them part of any problem.
 
Backtothemac said:
Wow, that was a nice insult.


Someone owning a gun to protect themselves doesn't make them part of any problem.

1. No insult intended
2. Not everyone would agree with that
3. You started showing off your weapons - don't be surprised if not everyone agrees with you
 
LethalWolfe said:
Before this thread goes OT and ends in the Politics section I just wanna say good job for stepping up and helping out in your community BTTM.:)


Lethal

Thanks Lethal. I am looking forward to helping out. After the hurricanes last year, it became obvious that law enforcement needed more help down here, so I am just happy to be able to help.
 
calculus said:
1. No insult intended
2. Not everyone would agree with that
3. You started showing off your weapons - don't be surprised if not everyone agrees with you

1. No problem, I missunderstood you.
2. Not everyone agrees on anything.
3. I don't have a problem if you don't like them / want them, just don't say things to those of us who do, like "I can't believe humanity, etc". In other words. I did not insult those that don't like guns, so why should they say something negative about my having them?
 
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