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After a cup of coffee I realize my answers are too glib. But this is a discussion and my opinions are as valid or not as anyone else's. I'm not trying to get agreement. Personally, I think this is iPhone Munchausen syndrome.

I had a defective iPhone and went in for service The Genius did a hardware dianostic and because the phone passed, it was a software issue and they re-flashed. That simple (hardware or software). When the OP stated the friend could not "fix" it, s/he didn't say there was a hardware defect, so it probably is a software issue that couldn't be fixed with a flash. A hardware issue is a hardware issue and a no brainer to replace by any employee, regardless of the startup fruit. (I expect the story to change again to accomodate these comments.)

The fact that s/he waited until the friend was working indicates to me that the friend provided a service that someone else would not have and the OP knew this. No different than going to a movie when a friend is working to get in free, restaurant to get a free meal, modding a cable box to get free cable and returning it broken to a friend to replace. (Analogies are bad... I'm not suggesting theft of service or food. The point is that friends provide unauthorized services, bless their hearts.)

Flame away. Love me or hate me. I have nothing against hackers. The OP is not a hacker, s/he downloaded a hacking tool and fried the OS. Happens all the time. Given time, the people here with the real talent would have provided a fix that the OP could simply click with a mouse and fix the phone, the same way s/he broke it. Once fixed, s/he was not going to jailbreak again. What??? If you didn't break it, do it again! With a Genius friend why stop at one?

BTW: I really appreciate the term "bricked" being used appropriately.
 
Again the story changes. Go away troll.

The story didn't change at all, I'm sorry that I'm fortunate enough to have a friend that would help me out and apparently the story got your man panties in a bunch.

The only one trolling is you.

After a cup of coffee I realize my answers are too glib. But this is a discussion and my opinions are as valid or not as anyone else's. I'm not trying to get agreement. Personally, I think this is iPhone Munchausen syndrome.

I had a defective iPhone and went in for service The Genius did a hardware dianostic and because the phone passed, it was a software issue and they re-flashed. That simple (hardware or software). When the OP stated the friend could not "fix" it, s/he didn't say there was a hardware defect, so it probably is a software issue that couldn't be fixed with a flash. A hardware issue is a hardware issue and a no brainer to replace by any employee, regardless of the startup fruit. (I expect the story to change again to accomodate these comments.)

The fact that s/he waited until the friend was working indicates to me that the friend provided a service that someone else would not have and the OP knew this. No different than going to a movie when a friend is working to get in free, restaurant to get a free meal, modding a cable box to get free cable and returning it broken to a friend to replace. (Analogies are bad... I'm not suggesting theft of service or food. The point is that friends provide unauthorized services, bless their hearts.)

Flame away. Love me or hate me. I have nothing against hackers. The OP is not a hacker, s/he downloaded a hacking tool and fried the OS. Happens all the time. Given time, the people here with the real talent would have provided a fix that the OP could simply click with a mouse and fix the phone, the same way s/he broke it. Once fixed, s/he was not going to jailbreak again. What??? If you didn't break it, do it again! With a Genius friend why stop at one?

BTW: I really appreciate the term "bricked" being used appropriately.

And I didn't fry the operating system by using pwnage tool, I clearly stated the phone was in perfect working condition and then all of a sudden boom, it didn't work. I have a 11 page thread over at modmyiphone with a bunch of other suggestions that I tried out that weren't provided here if you would like to go take a look. The "real talent" had no solution for the problem, neither did my genius friend. Yes he ran diagnostics, and tried the same things I did, the phone was not fixable.

Of course I'm going to use the advantages of having friends that work at certain places offers. Free movies from movie theater working friends, free food from friends who work at restaurants, YUP. I'll gladly reap the benefits of all of these things, and you know what? Whatever benefits my job at any certain point of time can be passed onto people that I consider friends, you better believe I share it.

breathe.
i jailbroke my 3G successfully.

30minutes of being tense, hoping it would work, dreading if it didnt, and SUCCESS.

epic amazing. :p

now i just have to restore all of the music
:(

1hr to go.

I jailbroke mine successfully also, only later on did it freak out.
 
I think it's because I said the word "girl" and mentioned something technical in the same paragraph.


LOL! Love that!

Ohhoe, I'm glad you were able to get a new phone. :) And no offense to all the guys, but it's really nice to see some fellow gals here, too.
 
If you don't understand that often "It's not what you know but it's who you know" then you living in a dream world. The whole world works on some level of the old boy system. There are almost no exceptions.

I'm happy you got a new phone.

:)
 
Do you all think it is worth waiting for a new version of Pwnage to come out? I am traveling back to the continental U.S. for vacation Thursday and picking up my 3G from AT&T DF order. Since I live in Puerto Rico where they do not sell them or have Apple stores I will be SOL if it bricks and I cannot restore.

Really I just want the tethering feature via the jailbreak and don't care about much else.

Is there any other disadvantages to jailbreaking at this point? The one I can think of is waiting till 2.0.1 comes for a more stable operating system and then jailbreak after that. Besides that does all the regular features work on a jailbroken 3G phone?
 
l love this thread. If only we had one of those 'best-of' sections or junkyard sections where mods move threads like these to die and/or for other people to enjoy many years from now.

You know what, I hate to point this out, but this is nothing more than a "boohoo I was an early bird/adopter, and now I'm crying because I didn't realize I had to pay to play but now everything is fine because I lucked out" thread. It happens all the time. The only reason why its what, 7 pages longer than it should be is because the OP is a girl.

And it's funny because every post is either "you're a n00b and a girl so it sucks for you" or it's "congratulations on the phone! I heard you have a hot voice!"

Flame me. I don't f*cking care. But goddamnit, it's the truth.
 
Im pleased its all sorted, it was also really good of your buddy to help out, there is nothing wrong with a mate doing you a favor. Buy him/her a beer to say thanks!
 
This is exactly why Apple doesn't want people hacking their iPhones. Just because you're the only one (you know of) with this problem, doesn't mean that it's safe to jailbreak your iPhone. I don't really feel bad for you because you took the risk on your own KNOWING that you couldn't afford a new phone. If I could help you fix it, I would. I still don't see the advantage of skinning and NES, but that's just me. I personally think that your iPhone crapped out on it's own (regardless of the jailbreak) and now you're stuck with the custom images that points out that the warranty is void, but who can really say?

The reason why I came to this iPhone hacking forum is because I was *thinking* about hacking my iPhone when it comes, but after seeing your thread, I think I'll just keep it stock. Thanks for your story.

This dude has the most accurate forum handle I have ever seen. Get a grip.
 
This dude has the most accurate forum handle I have ever seen. Get a grip.

also giving advice about a device he doesnt even own... i cant say I disagree with im, however if you dont have the grounds to advise on the subject, just keep your mouth shut.

Why would anyone attempt to give advice on something they don't even own themselves?? I don't give advice about surfboards.... i don't own one.
 
Hmm here is an idea. STOP TRYING TO JAILBREAK YOUR IPHONE!

take it from me, the guys WITH a jailbroken 2.0... where is the point of jailbreaking one now? There isnt one! We have practically no apps that support 2.0 and 99.99% of the apps on my phone came from the apple store anyways! I am borderline of just restoring mine to the official unmodified 2.0.
 
There is nothing inherently risky about jailbreaking your phone. It's a lot riskier for the iPhone to take it out of your pocket: after all, you might drop it onto the ground!

As the Genius verified, the same thing would have happened had OP not jailbroken. I'm assuming that they at least would be able to perform DFU mode correctly and they did try that. In that mode, the only code that is running is code that is burned into read-only memory.

It's possible to brick the baseband with a specially crafted payload or if information unique to each phone gets accidentally erased or overwritten. But trust me, I have overwritten the entire NOR and NAND with garbage before and it still wasn't "bricked".
 
This happened to me the other day and lucky is an easier fix. Did you fix this with the $10 worth of screws and washers at HomeDepot? Beats sending it into MS.

Nah, I sent it to MS. I'm too busy to play it for the next two weeks and the turnaround time is less than a Month right now.
 
Agreed. But I'm not sure how your comment applies to this thread.

it applies because the OP's phone wasnt bricked... they were unable to repair it, but only because the software conflict wasnt figured out. If it were a real brick, it would have done nothing other than a black screen.
 
it applies because the OP's phone wasnt bricked... they were unable to repair it, but only because the software conflict wasnt figured out. If it were a real brick, it would have done nothing other than a black screen.

Ah, I see. There are a few definitions of "brick" floating around and that is certainly the strictest. There is nothing wrong with your interpretation, but I prefer the softer definition because it is applicable in more situations and fun to discuss. :)

With that said, the OP modded her phone, it broke, she could not fix it, and it could not be fixed at the store and needed replaced. The phone went back to Apple to fix/crush/eBay. For all practical purposes, it was a brick with a beautiful pineapple logo. Had her genius friend flashed it back to life it wouldn't fit my definition, either.
 
Ah, I see. There are a few definitions of "brick" floating around and that is certainly the strictest. There is nothing wrong with your interpretation, but I prefer the softer definition because it is applicable in more situations and fun to discuss. :)

With that said, the OP modded her phone, it broke, she could not fix it, and it could not be fixed at the store and needed replaced. The phone went back to Apple to fix/crush/eBay. For all practical purposes, it was a brick with a beautiful pineapple logo. Had her genius friend flashed it back to life it wouldn't fit my definition, either.

well the term "bricked" was first spoken by the PSP world. As a big contributor to the custom firmware/downgrading PSP world back in the day we heard the term a LOT!..Originally it was used when you made your PSP as useful as a brick! There were several ways to do this back in the day but essentially on the original PSP's (before all the advnacments on them today) if you erased your flash0 you had a brick. The unit would power up to a black screen but nothing else. the only way to fix it back then was to replace the mobo which has a new flash0 on it.
 
The phone did have the pineapple logo.

My friend is a genius at an Apple store, and I went in when they were closing and he agreed that it would have happened whether or not I jailbroke it. He replaced the phone for me, and my broken one is being sent back to the company where it'll most likely be parted out or something.

so i just found this thread.. and it seems as if im now in the same boat that you were in. are you to say that someone at the apple store will replace my iphone regardless if i have the pineapple logo on my screen? or is it that you got hooked up cuz he's your friend?

im freakin out. i don't have money for a new phone!
 
yeah, you're a lot of help. thanks man. why even bother?

sorry you took offense to it, but its probably the BEST advice you'll get on this forum.

If you had educated yourself on the "hacking" of your cellphone you would KNOW that at&t and apple voids your warranty for modifying your cell phone. If you software unlock or hardware unlock your phone your waranty is technically void. Fortunately, in the past you could restore the locks on the phone and no one would be the wiser.

Here-in lies your problem.... you voided your warranty.. PERIOD The bad thing is, you have locked yourself out of your phone and cant restore it back to default either to restore the software mods back to default. I fyou take your phone to apple, they are going to tell you to buy a different phone. The OP got their phone swapped ONLY because they had a "hook up" in the company that did it for them.

There are a decent amount of options in this thread on advice to get your phone out of the loop its stuck in at the moment. I urge you try as many different ways that you can.... if you dont understand the "lingo" or the methods of restoring it, then you were not educated enough to start the process in the first place.

I do hope that you stumble across a way to fix your phone so that your stupid mistake and uneducated decision doesnt cost you a lot of money... but i hope that in the process you at least learn 2 things... 1 you learn your lesson about modding things that you cant afford to replace when you screw them up. 2 you learn your lesson about modding things before you educate yourself more about the software unlocking precess.
 
well the term "bricked" was first spoken by the PSP world. As a big contributor to the custom firmware/downgrading PSP world back in the day we heard the term a LOT!..Originally it was used when you made your PSP as useful as a brick! There were several ways to do this back in the day but essentially on the original PSP's (before all the advnacments on them today) if you erased your flash0 you had a brick. The unit would power up to a black screen but nothing else. the only way to fix it back then was to replace the mobo which has a new flash0 on it.

lol. "Brick" was around long before the PSP. Nice try though.
 
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