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Series4 is just going to be a blank black square when compared to the S5 and S6 Always-on-Displays that are showing when the watches are in standby.

When awake/active, all three are rated the same 1000nits brightness
I personally like not having the watchface display at all times and prefer the display to be off when not in use.
 
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I personally like not having the watchface display at all times and prefer the display to be off when not in use.
Each to their own. I’m the opposite. S2 was my first blank-face watch since the late 1970’s LED watches. As happy as I was with my S4, the AOD of the S5 was a must-buy for me.

You’ll be happy to know that a blank face S5 or S6 is just a setting away.
 
I always upgrade to next version. My current one goes to my daughter, hers goes to best friend, and best friend’s gets sold or traded in.
 
Each to their own. I’m the opposite. S2 was my first blank-face watch since the late 1970’s LED watches. As happy as I was with my S4, the AOD of the S5 was a must-buy for me.

Ditto. I could never go back to not having AoD.
 
I bet she loves the series 5. It is a very good watch.
Thats very nice...but a totally different scenario though from my post you quoted. You’re giving your watch to your wife, versus you just upgrading from a S5 to S6 for XYZ reasons. I’m assuming your wife has never had an Apple Watch, so you would have a substantial reason to give her your older watch versus you upgrading ‘just because.’ (If that makes sense.)

Yes she’s very excited! I’m going to swap over tomorrow for her. She’s never had one so she’s very happy! Yeah I definitely understand your point about upgrading. I’ll be happy she will now have one and I’ll get a nice little upgrade. Plus I’ll be able to check out this new graphite color!
 
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I noticed a difference in battery life on my 6 vs my 4 when I shut that AOD nonsense off. So that’s a win.
 
I personally like not having the watchface display at all times and prefer the display to be off when not in use.
Same. I don’t care what the watch face is doing when I’m not looking at it, and I hated the way the AOD would blur out all apps except the watch face when I wasn’t looking at it. It takes longer for that to unblur and show updated data than my series 4 did to snap on the display. Turned it off after a couple hours when I first got my 6 and perfectly happy to pretend the feature never existed.
 
Same. I don’t care what the watch face is doing when I’m not looking at it, and I hated the way the AOD would blur out all apps except the watch face when I wasn’t looking at it. It takes longer for that to unblur and show updated data than my series 4 did to snap on the display. Turned it off after a couple hours when I first got my 6 and perfectly happy to pretend the feature never existed.
Hmmm, AOD doesn’t seem to work as i thought. So AOD would blur out the complications in dim mode so that you only see the time. To see the complications, is to go from blur to sharp, but it happens slowly compared to flicking wrist in a S4 and getting a crisp screen. In S4 you give a good flick and you’ll see everything on watchface. If fkivk too gently then the screen stayed
 
UGH!!! Just picked up the new Apple Watch 6 (Silver Stainless. 44mm) and it has the same annoying screen brightness (or rather *dim*ness) issue that made me return the 5 and stick with my 4!





In dark environments the ambient light sensor is too aggressive and makes the screen too dark. In a side-by-side with the 4 it is *noticeably* dimmer! The 4 is perfect but for the 5/6, this is problematic for people such as me who wear glasses need that extra brightness to be able to read it if you're outside in the dusk, or in a dark environment like watching TV with the lights off or sitting in a movie theater because it ramps down too low.





The screen is more than capable of the brightness too because again, just like with the 5, in daylight, it really is bright. You can see this yourself! Just shine your iPhone's flashlight at your watch face and you'll see it turn practically blinding.





This was clearly a choice by Apple to implement because again, the hardware can easily handle it, and considering they never addressed it last round, I'm not optimistic this is even on their radar to address.





Also, since I've been asked this a few times, yes, the brightness in settings is turned all the way up, and yes, I am comparing the 'active' brighness (i.e. you're tapping on and interacting with the screen), not the 'always-on' brightness which is more of a 'stand-by' mode.





I even tried disabling the 'always on' screen to make it mimic the 4 exactly. Same result. The 4 is brighter. The 5 and 6 are too dim!!





I know why they did this... to eeek out as much battery life as possible. But that's just it... let *me* decide if I want to sacrifice battery life for brightness. I have never ran out of battery and usually end the day with around ~40% so I would happily give some of that up for more brightness because without it, I can't *read* half the text, even with my glasses on!





Come on Apple... you're supposed to be great around accessibility. You dropped the ball here... twice! Give us a firmware setting to make it not be so aggressive in dimming it!





If it wasn't for the pulse-oximeter in it, this may have been sent right back just like the 5. I'm gonna give it a few days and see how annoyed I am with it before I decide.





Anyone else seeing this too? Again, against a 5 it's identical. Against a 4 it's blatantly obvious. It's not a subtle difference.
I went from a S4 SBSS to a new S6 Graphite SS today and immediately noticed the watch dimming more aggressively even when outdoors and in the dark making it harder for me to see. At home under normal house lights, I noticed that the screen seem to dim quicker and the AOD seems to stay on longer. Like you mentioned, it doesn't appear broken but that it's Apple's effort to maximize battery life.

The S4 being off can afford to light up the OLED pixels more when you turn your wrist or raise it but AOD appears to draw more power as long as the watch is on so something had to give.
 
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Each to their own. I’m the opposite. S2 was my first blank-face watch since the late 1970’s LED watches. As happy as I was with my S4, the AOD of the S5 was a must-buy for me.

You’ll be happy to know that a blank face S5 or S6 is just a setting away.
Agree! AOD makes the AW feel like a real watch for the first time and I had gone 4 years from an S0 to a S4 with blank faces unless I actively turned or raised my wrist. It is such a handy feature and it allows me to see the time whether I'm at my computer, driving or in a meeting where it would not be kosher to actively raise my wrist to check the time in front of management...back when we still had in person meetings.
 
The battery life is pretty dramatically different there... judging by the step count, you put them both on your wrist at ~ the same time. Do you think the 28% difference in battery life is based on the slightly larger battery (no force touch component) and general battery health?

I think he explained this but just to let you know, the battery life in the S5 and the S6 are nearly identical.
 
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Have you tried looking at them outside side by side? To me it's a huge difference...the photos don't exaggerate.

Yes, I have. I returned my Series 6 Graphite as I just didn't care for the color and already have a S5 in Space Black that I'll sell and I wanted to get something different and the graphite is really close to the black. I did order the S6 in Stainless as I will post some photos when it comes in on Monday to see if there is a noticeable difference. Could be that maybe I had one that wasn't working correctly.
 
I personally like not having the watchface display at all times and prefer the display to be off when not in use.
You can set it that way if you prefer... I upgraded from a 4 and do LOVE the AOD. Still getting a full day of battery which will improve as I look at and fiddle with it a bit less. Bigger upgrade for me was moving to SS with the Sapphire crystal. Hate a scratched watch face... :)
 
I’ve said it Many times over, I don’t think Apple expects any S5 owners to upgrade to the S6, as a matter fact, it probably be rather foolish unless you were upgrading to a new casing option from aluminum to titanium for example. But otherwise, your point about the ‘brighter display‘, there’s nothing more inconvenient when you can’t read your Apple Watch display in natural sunlight, but with the new ‘tweaked increased brightness‘ outside makes a difference, it certainly enhances the experience with the Apple Watch, especially when you can’t see the display in certain Lighting conditions.
I've never had trouble reading my series 5 in any light.
 
Hmmm, AOD doesn’t seem to work as i thought. So AOD would blur out the complications in dim mode so that you only see the time. To see the complications, is to go from blur to sharp, but it happens slowly compared to flicking wrist in a S4 and getting a crisp screen. In S4 you give a good flick and you’ll see everything on watchface. If fkivk too gently then the screen stayed

What complications are you finding blurred out?

I've never seen that on any watchface I've used.
 
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The best thing about comparing the 5 to the 6 is that probably for the first time. I don't need or want to upgrade from the previous model. Don't get me wrong its nice but a slightly brighter screen outside? eh, a no for me.
Exactly my thoughts. I’m guessing Series 7 is a new design.

To the OP, thanks for the comparison. As an Series 5 user, would be nice to have a bit brighter outdoors which is where all my workouts are.
 
Thank You for the comparison. I am upgrading from My 44mm Seiko Aviation Pilot Watch That I've had for 10 Years.
I sold my TAG Watch collection of 6 Watches and I still Have 3 New Seiko's to sell. I get my 6 in Blue on Oct. 2
I have a SS Black Watch Band already for only $29. on Ebay. Nice Model to start with. Now I want 2 day battery life.
And Thinner.
After putting my watch on at around 6:45am, logging a workout of 30 - 45 mins, and taking my watch off around 9pm, I’m usually still at 50-55% on my 44mm Series 5. And I’ve had it exactly one year today, so the battery has sone wear and AoD is left on always. I am impressed with how good the battery life is. It’s 2 days still.
 
I can see the S6 being really useful in California or Australia etc. with all that bright sunshine.

However, here in Northern Europe we live ina state of perpetual gloom so the S5 is no doubt fine for us!
 
The best thing about comparing the 5 to the 6 is that probably for the first time. I don't need or want to upgrade from the previous model. Don't get me wrong its nice but a slightly brighter screen outside? eh, a no for me.
For me, the health features are very important, so adding the SpO2 sensor was enough of a change to pull the trigger from the Series 5.
 
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I think I'll wait until next year to upgrade my S4, when I expect we'll see a bigger difference. I mean, I started with an S0, and waited until S4 to upgrade, so I think S4->S7 is about right :)

But the increased outdoor brightness is compelling... The reason I didn't get S5 is because it was too dim for me to read in direct light when "always on."
Ditto. S3 to S4 was a big upgrade simply due to the larger screen size. Everything since then has been minor and not worth the spend IMHO.
 
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Ditto. S3 to S4 was a big upgrade simply due to the larger screen size. Everything since then has been minor and not worth the spend IMHO.

So much of this is a matter of opinion and a function of how impactful the $$$ outlay is to the individual.

For me, the S2 (and S3 and S4) were the only watches I've owned with blank black displays since my late 1970's LED wristwatch. I disliked the blank inactive screen.

Thus, while a minor thing for many, the Series5 AOD was a big change to me and thus a no-brainer purchase.

Series 6 is certainly incremental. I've one on order. Not sure I can really point to a singular reason - GPS & HRM appear to be improved per DCRainmaker's initial take, bright AOD outside in sunlight may solve an annoyance I have with the S5. Worth the $$$? Not sure I can really justify it from a quantitative standpoint, and that's okay.
 
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