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If the user experience is seamless and has no significant delay, or noticeable delay, does it really matter how much RAM the phone has? Apple's engineers historically have shown to squeeze out a lot of performance from their various hardware devices making the specs somewhat of a non-factor for the average consumer. One would guess that if specs are really important to you, than perhaps an Android or Windows phone is better suited as those seem to really depend on beefy hardware and increased RAM to operate efficiently (Google Nexus and Moto X excluded based on my experience as they tend to ship stock Android OS).

Are you sure the press gag is midnight PST tonight? That would be amazing.

Seems like an educated guess based on past releases.
 
Today is the definition of first world problems...after conflicting reports and articles, I'm starting to believe my beloved 6 Plus has 1GB of RAM.

As a shareholder I'm glad Apple saved their money, as a customer I'm devastated. I get many will try to defend their decision but I personally bought the highest 6 Plus model...that's $1,000 off contract.

How will I survive the next two years of Safari reloads?

GSMarena is confirming 2GB: http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_6_plus-6665.php
Take it for what it's worth.
 
After reading a few of these threads, I'm convinced that many of you don't understand how computers work. Put in basic terms, any time you have to wait for your app that is suspended in the background to resume (or reload), any time you switch tabs while filling out a long form and come back to find all your data missing, any time you suddenly find yourself back at the home screen and have to reopen the app—it's because there wasn't enough RAM so something had to get cleared out to make room for other processes. To be clear, many of us "RAM complainers" aren't necessarily spec whores. I don't care how many cores it has, or how many gigaflops of graphics power it has. It's a phone. The A8 is a beast. Heck, the A6 in my iPhone 5 is still decent. BUT something a phone in 2014 should do well is browse the web without issue. Many of us have issues, and it's likely, at least partially, due to RAM. I have my suspicions that Safari is just really buggy, but who knows. The efficiency of RAM today means 2GB doesn't really subtract much battery life.
 
There are some ridiculous posts in this thread. If it was possible that you could never see the actual specs of an iPhone and that you weren't surrounded by people screaming the same old "my phone has more <whatever> than yours" then I guarantee that almost everyone who gets a new iPhone 6 (or 6 Plus) would be happy with the performance. It's the same with every release.

This time of year brings out the worst in people and I like to sit back and watch it unfold. I'm seeing people who quite clearly hate Apple signing up for Mac forums and firing abuse to people for wanting the iPhone 6. It's a phone. Really, that's all there is to it. As many people have said, a person's soul being "crushed" as a result of 1GB RAM in a phone is ridiculous. I know the OP probably said it in a light-hearted way but there's definitely something to it and I've seen it all over the place over the past few days. People really get worked up about this stuff.

Also, to the people who think that Apple put 1GB in because of cost; are you serious? Do you really believe that this is how Apple work? They do things their own way (i.e control hardware and software) and they're the only company who are lucky enough to be able to do that. This means that you can't - and shouldn't - compare iPhone specs to other more generic Samsung/HTC/LG phones - the iPhone will always lose if you do that. If I was a hardware provider making a device for a fragmented market then I'd also probably stuff as much hardware in there as I could and hope for the best. Year after year the iPhone comes out and people complain about their specs. Then, once people have their hands on them, this all fades away because the experience is actually good (surprise surprise).

My point is this: If you really have a problem with these things then why are you still ordering them? This is how Apple works with the iPhone and we're not suddenly going to see a 2.5GHz quad-core CPU in an iPhone with a 10mm camera that shoots 4K that looks crap. If people want specs then there are some awesome phones out there that can accommodate what you need. I went in a store this week to get a feel for 5.5" phones and I picked up the LG G3. It's a beautiful phone and the specs are incredible. At least on paper. The screen's resolution is the same as my 27" iMac. It's hard to comprehend.

Anyway, we should all just lighten up. We buy what we want to buy based on exactly what we need. If RAM is the top requirement from a phone then you should maybe go with a Note or something like that. To the people who don't care as much and are just excited about getting iOS 8 tomorrow and possibly a new phone in the coming week(s), good for you. :)
 
Many of us have issues, and it's likely, at least partially, due to RAM. I have my suspicions that Safari is just really buggy, but who knows. The efficiency of RAM today means 2GB doesn't really subtract much battery life.
The Back action on OSX Safari sure makes me inclined to think that it (on OSX) may be bugs - going back on pages triggers a page refresh, a behavior I do not notice on Firefox or Chrome. This is with more than enough inactive memory available.
 
wow. yeah. bummer. I'll have to upgrade to the S version next year. my eternal soul is now crushed beyond repair. how will I ever recover?

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Wow! No way would I ever pay that for a phone.

Good thing iPhone isn't really a phone but a hand held computer that happens to be called iPhone for marketing purposes!
 
That's what I'm saying who cares as long as it works right!

....but it doesn't and that's the point. In certain respects it works very badly. Whether this bothers people, or whether they use their phone in such a way that the fault exhibits itself is another matter.
 
Loving how this has been blown out of proportion, sure 2GB would be nice, but if it does come with 1GB Apple have clearly tested it and it works well with it but, if you're running a lot of apps etc you might notice a slow down, for the regular user it will run fine.



Not confirmed yet! Wait until the 19th.

Apple doesn't test it for future updates. How are iPad 3s running with iPad 2 specs and a retina screen? iPhone 4 with 3GS specs and retina? iPad 1? iPhone 3G?
 
There are some ridiculous posts in this thread. If it was possible that you could never see the actual specs of an iPhone and that you weren't surrounded by people screaming the same old "my phone has more <whatever> than yours" then I guarantee that almost everyone who gets a new iPhone 6 (or 6 Plus) would be happy with the performance. It's the same with every release.

This time of year brings out the worst in people and I like to sit back and watch it unfold. I'm seeing people who quite clearly hate Apple signing up for Mac forums and firing abuse to people for wanting the iPhone 6. It's a phone. Really, that's all there is to it. As many people have said, a person's soul being "crushed" as a result of 1GB RAM in a phone is ridiculous. I know the OP probably said it in a light-hearted way but there's definitely something to it and I've seen it all over the place over the past few days. People really get worked up about this stuff.

Also, to the people who think that Apple put 1GB in because of cost; are you serious? Do you really believe that this is how Apple work? They do things their own way (i.e control hardware and software) and they're the only company who are lucky enough to be able to do that. This means that you can't - and shouldn't - compare iPhone specs to other more generic Samsung/HTC/LG phones - the iPhone will always lose if you do that. If I was a hardware provider making a device for a fragmented market then I'd also probably stuff as much hardware in there as I could and hope for the best. Year after year the iPhone comes out and people complain about their specs. Then, once people have their hands on them, this all fades away because the experience is actually good (surprise surprise).

My point is this: If you really have a problem with these things then why are you still ordering them? This is how Apple works with the iPhone and we're not suddenly going to see a 2.5GHz quad-core CPU in an iPhone with a 10mm camera that shoots 4K that looks crap. If people want specs then there are some awesome phones out there that can accommodate what you need. I went in a store this week to get a feel for 5.5" phones and I picked up the LG G3. It's a beautiful phone and the specs are incredible. At least on paper. The screen's resolution is the same as my 27" iMac. It's hard to comprehend.

Anyway, we should all just lighten up. We buy what we want to buy based on exactly what we need. If RAM is the top requirement from a phone then you should maybe go with a Note or something like that. To the people who don't care as much and are just excited about getting iOS 8 tomorrow and possibly a new phone in the coming week(s), good for you. :)
I appreciate your post but saying that we should just accept what Apple gives us isn't always the answer. They've never done the same RAM for three years and my 5c has constant tabs reloading in safari so I don't think it'll get better with the 6 plus (which demands more than my 5c).
 
....but it doesn't and that's the point. In certain respects it works very badly. Whether this bothers people, or whether they use their phone in such a way that the fault exhibits itself is another matter.

So if I use a device in an abusive way and it fails, is that the manufacturers fault? Seriously. We can all admit that the "normal" user is unaffected. iPhones aren't marketed to the .01% "power user" either, so using it in a way that causes RAM faults is certainly not "normal usage".

Normal usage is NOT doing something that nearly no other user would and getting an undesireable result. It's like saying you should get advertised battery life if you crank the brightness to max and run a graphic heavy app at max volume. You won't. It's not because of a "flaw", it's because you aren't using the device normally.

Normal users have NO problem with 1GB. They really don't. The excuse the "power" users always use to explain that is: "well, they aren't using the phone like I do (or hard enough), so of course it won't".

Of course it won't. That's the point.

If you use something abnormally (no matter what it is) you can get it to do malfunction. It is what it is.
 
They justify it by having an optimized os that DOESNT NEED 300 GIGGAWATTZ.....:rolleyes:

Are you also mad that theres only 200 more mhz in the processing speed? And that it's still dual core?

Don't give me hope. I've tried to hold on as long as possible but I'm pretty sure it has 1GB :p

I have no idea how Apple can even try to justify this with other phones having 3GB of RAM. Just think, Apple's 2012 flagship has the same amount of RAM as it's 2014 flagship.

Marketing Geniuses
 
hahah people are actually defending apple being greedy pigs and possibly sticking a paltry 1 gb of ram into a phone that can cost an upwards of 1000 dollars.

Truly you all are the kings of delusion.
 
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Today is the definition of first world problems...after conflicting reports and articles, I'm starting to believe my beloved 6 Plus has 1GB of RAM.

As a shareholder I'm glad Apple saved their money, as a customer I'm devastated. I get many will try to defend their decision but I personally bought the highest 6 Plus model...that's $1,000 off contract.

How will I survive the next two years of Safari reloads?

It could always be worse. You COULD be using one of these...

 
The Back action on OSX Safari sure makes me inclined to think that it (on OSX) may be bugs - going back on pages triggers a page refresh, a behavior I do not notice on Firefox or Chrome. This is with more than enough inactive memory available.

You know what? I never really thought about that. I don't really use Safari on my Mac, except to quickly test for web development. But now that you mention it, it does seem like I've experienced that before but forgot about it. Interesting.
 
....but it doesn't and that's the point. In certain respects it works very badly. Whether this bothers people, or whether they use their phone in such a way that the fault exhibits itself is another matter.

How do you know how the not yet released phone works?
 
How do you know how the not yet released phone works?

Simple. We have had iPhones with only 1GB of RAM for the last two years ;-)

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So if I use a device in an abusive way and it fails, is that the manufacturers fault? Seriously. We can all admit that the "normal" user is unaffected. iPhones aren't marketed to the .01% "power user" either, so using it in a way that causes RAM faults is certainly not "normal usage".

Normal usage is NOT doing something that nearly no other user would and getting an undesireable result. It's like saying you should get advertised battery life if you crank the brightness to max and run a graphic heavy app at max volume. You won't. It's not because of a "flaw", it's because you aren't using the device normally.

Normal users have NO problem with 1GB. They really don't. The excuse the "power" users always use to explain that is: "well, they aren't using the phone like I do (or hard enough), so of course it won't".

Of course it won't. That's the point.

If you use something abnormally (no matter what it is) you can get it to do malfunction. It is what it is.

I don't call filling out an online form on one tab, closing the tab to read a SMS and then returning to the partially completed webform, only to find that the tab has reloaded and lost my work, as abusing my device. If you just use yours for games and music then excuse my 'power usage'.
 
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