My Thoughts Now I've (Finally) Jailbroken - I'm A Little Underwhelmed...

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by jimf123, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. jimf123 macrumors member

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    Yesterday I finally decided to join the jailbreaking party, better late than never! For what it's worth I thought I'd post my opinions and thoughts.

    I have a 1st gen 8gb iphone. I used Quickpwn. It took 3 attempts for the process to work, even though I did exactly the same thing each time, so maybe not the best of starts. If I'm really honest, & I know everyone is entitled to their opinion & won't share mine(!), but I'm a little disappointed...I spent quite a few hours looking in Cydia at what I could download. There's loads of stuff to change the themes of your phone, but for me that isn't too high on my prioritity list. I've found a few great apps so far, Backgrounder which allows me to run my instant messenger (or any other app) in the background, Cycorder for video recording and Snapture giving a zoom to the camera. Of course, had I a 3G phone then XGPS would be invaluable. Apart from that, so far I havn't come across much that exites me. It has sort of made me feel a little better about the official Appstore...

    Despite what I have said, it is a slightly double edged sword...even just finding the apps above has made me wonder why on earth Apple hasn't either implemented them themselves, or allowed them in the Appstore (I know the rules around the SDK, but Apple decide the rules & can change or bend them !). I know many of us are asking the same question, but I just cant for the life of me understand their reasoning behind it. OK, running apps in the background will cause the battery to run down even quicker, but surely if they make that clear we are able to make an informed decision and choice? Lack of an official video app when it is clearly possible, you know, why, what possible reason is there for that ? For 3g owners, turn by turn voice guideance is there, now, working. Why block it from the masses when it would be a huge moneymaker for them ?

    Anyway, that's my thoughts! I'd love some pointers at other jailbreakers apps that they like, or if I'm missing something massive please let me know...I assume cydia is the place to find all the available apps ?

    Thanks everyone.
     
  2. koollectablz macrumors 6502

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    I think quite a few who JB follow the same path as me. JB, then go mad on themes and installing all the stuff they can find that they think they need.

    Then a few weeks on realise that themes get old quick and can slow down the iphone quite a bit and all the new apps they installed don't actually get used - I never received a MMS in the previous 15 years of owning a phone why should I suddenly get them now?

    Any official apps or games I want I just buy - I'll spend £5 a day on lunch etc so its not a push to fork out 59p every now or again.

    All I JB now is to change the text notification - they do stink.

    When people want to see/borrow your iphone they are always invariably more impressed by the stock quick response look than anything I've ever seen themed.

    The iphone does have a lot of 'expected' features missing (I'm looking at you bluetooth) but its internet experience still makes up for all the shortcomings at the moment.
     
  3. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    Reasons why I'll never go back to unjailbroken:
    SBSettings (make sure to look for all the additional toggles/widgets)
    Five Row Keyboard
    hClipboard (not sure of spell)
    Supreme Preferences
    AppBackup
    AptBackup
    Categories
    Status Notifier
    Live Clock
    Weather Icon
    LockDown
    ReName
    MxTube
     
  4. instaxgirl macrumors 65816

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    OP I was the same. At first it was kind of fun, but my phone seemed to get slower by the week (by that time I'd stripped all the themes etc off)

    I only really jailbroke for Swirly (I like mms, wheesht the lot of you) and given that the interface on that was rubbish I went back to stock after about 3 weeks.
     
  5. OrangeDog macrumors 6502

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    I liked JB'n as well, but hated the lag and flakiness.

    All in all IMO jailbreaking is totally overhyped and over sold.

    I think a lot of people get over it real fast.
     
  6. ppc750fx macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, but he said he's not into WinterBoard, so it shouldn't be that big of an issue for him.

    As for the features, yes it's nice to have some of the things that Apple left out. I jailbroke because I wanted a whole bunch of command line tools that Apple is never going to provide -- but even GUI-oriented folks tend to like video recording and turn-by-turn GPS. Still, it's not for everyone. It really depends on what you use your phone for.
     
  7. jimf123 thread starter macrumors member

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    Yeah I'm not clever enough for anything but gui related features!!!

    Don't get me wrong, I know there's loads of people who love their jailbroken phones. I guess they use their phone for loads more things than I do. And I love the apps I've downloaded for video recording/background app running etc. I guess it just made me more disappointed that these are not official as it seems for my needs, it doesn't feel too much to ask.
     
  8. iSaga macrumors regular

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    There are a couple features that keep leading me back to JBing, mostly Cycorder, I just really like having good quality video recording capabilities on my phone. Other then that I use SB settings and categories and the phone runs as smooth as a non jailbroken phone.
     
  9. OrangeDog macrumors 6502

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    You honestly believe, that Cycorder gives you "good quality video recording capabilities"?????
     
  10. army91c macrumors 6502a

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    Gotta love how those that aren't that into jailbreaking say "it bogs the phone down"... that is total bunk. I have many JB apps on my phone and mine is as fast as both of my parents that are not JB. As far as the debate of "Cycorder gives you good quality video recording capabilities?????" Yeah I think it does esp when you compare it to a non JB iPhone :D

    For those of you that wouldn't dare mess with apple's pathetic version of the iPhone, good for you. I however like my:
    Cycorder
    5 icon dock
    Winterboard
    Cydia
    xGPS
    Clear Cam
    PdaNet
    MIM
    Font Colors
    Alt Weather Background
    AOL You've got mail
    SB Settings
    Frature sms
    Glass sms
    Homer doh sms tone
    light saber sounds
    color header battery
    iBlacklist
    Ice keys
    Illuminus
    rss wifi orange
    touch key board sounds
    Apt Backup
    Clear sky notes
    dTunes
    open ssh
    169 different ring tone choices
    Carbon fiber Keyboard
    Video backgrounds
    AppFlow
    AppBackup
    FindMyI
    ........You get the idea

    Plus this: [​IMG] Looks so much better than this:[​IMG] :rolleyes:
     
  11. Aurial macrumors 6502

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    Haha, I saw that video Ashton Kutcher posted online a while ago taken on his iPhone. It was the worst quality video I think I've ever seen from a phone! I remember my Orange SPV E200 taking better video about 10 years ago!

    I suspect that's the reason apple never included it as a feature, people would laugh at how bad it is.
     
  12. iSaga macrumors regular

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    yes, obviously I'm not going to shoot a major motion picture with it but to capture a quality moment from the kids it is pretty darn good.
     
  13. TheSpaz macrumors 604

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    Yes, the one on the left looks better. Also, how can you say with all of that stuff (especially WinterBoard) that your iPhone runs just as fast as stock. That's TOTAL BUNK. Anyone can prove it.
     
  14. Warbrain macrumors 603

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    Are you talking about the one on Qik? That's because Qik is/was streaming from his phone.
     
  15. bigmouth macrumors 6502

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    Aside from backgrounder and cycorder, the main reason for me to jailbreak is tweaks. Not just themes, but actual improvements to the interface. Things like springboard settings, 5 apps in the dock, or notification icons (e.g., that you have new mail) without having to unlock the phone. If you've owned other smartphones besides an iPhone, odds are you take this tweakability for granted. If you haven't, jailbreaking may not seem so essential.

    It's also so easy once you get the hang of it. I was jailbroken with all of my apps restored in about five minutes after updating to 2.2.1.
     
  16. Miker2k macrumors regular

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    I ran JB for quite awhile and then eventually ended up going back to stock. I went nuts initially and loaded loads of ringtones, goofy themes, every app that sounded remotely interesting.

    I restored a couple weeks ago and the only thing I miss are SBSettings and..... well I think that's about it.

    Mileage will vary.
     
  17. army91c macrumors 6502a

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    So, basically you're calling me a liar.....

    I put my phone with all that next to my mothers non JB iPhone, any app I hit opens at about the same speed, sometimes mine is faster, sometimes hers is.

    I put my phone with all that next to my fathers non JB iPhone, any app I hit opens at about the same speed, sometimes mine is faster, sometimes his is.

    So einstein, if that is the case, how is my JB iPhone "slower" than theirs? Keep it coming hero, any other iPhone wisdom you want to lay on me?

    If you have backgrounder and an app running, sure it may "bog" down the phone, but DB's like yourself that make retarded blanket statements that JB and apps slow the phone down are talking out of your 4th point of contact.... if you don't know what that is try google or join the Army and you'll hear it all the time and maybe (judgeing from a lot of your postings, maybe not) you'll figure it out.
     
  18. Dr. Cabrera macrumors 65816

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    well why not do it scientifically

    have the same amount of webpages open in safari, have the same programs installed, and have the same firmware

    then test which is faster on what programs

    everything I've read online shows that Jailbreaking will unfortunately cause stability/slow down problems
     
  19. TheSpaz macrumors 604

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    Do you mind explaining to us what you did to speed up your iPhone so that it runs like a stock iPhone? I'd really like to know. I've done side by side tests of 2 iPhones... one running stock and one with winterboard and the winterboard one ALWAYS takes longer than the fresh iPhone. These were both running a plain restored firmware with NO backup restored. Just as plain as you can get. The one with winterboard installed didn't even have any themes on. Simply just INSTALLING WINTERBOARD made it lauch apps slower than the other iPhone. So yes, I'm calling you a liar.
     
  20. OrangeDog macrumors 6502

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    Sorry but IMO your "themed" iPhone looks dreadful compared to stock. Most themes make the iPhone look like a kids toy.
    I also find it impossible to believe that you don't suffer any lag whatsoever running what you do on your JB'n iPhone. You must have a very special iPhone with a lot more grunt than anyone else owns. Maybe your Steve Jobs's kid;)
     
  21. buccsmf1 macrumors 6502

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    yea... i feel the same way. i went crazy doing stuff to the iphone once i JB just to realize that they made my iphone crippling slow. i removed a ton of junk and the only JB apps i use now are...

    SBsettings - and i dont think i could live without it
    Video recorder
    MxTube
    themes - winterboard.
    categories - another one i dont think i could live without

    thats it.... dont have 3G so no xgps
     
  22. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    You sir, are a liar.
     
  23. TheSpaz macrumors 604

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    What makes me a liar? I have 2 iPhones and an iPod touch. I can test anything I want. What do you want me to do? Geeze. I've seen it with my own eyes.

    By the way... I was just arguing with a person that can't tell the difference between 64kbps AAC vs. 256kbps when he flips them back and forth without looking. He didn't believe me that 256kbps is better, but it clearly is. Why are people like that?
     
  24. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    You cannot possibly have a jailbroken phone on vanilla firmware, which is what you claimed. The very act of jailbreaking means it isnt "freshly restored" firmware.

    Also, the lag-ees have been outnumbered by those without lag countless times here, even a mod has said he has no lag. You CAN have some lag, but in that case just redo it until you dont. Jailbreaking isnt an exact science, things can go (very slightly) wrong.
     
  25. TheSpaz macrumors 604

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    You mis-read my post.

    I restored one iPhone's FIRMWARE to stock 2.2.1 from Apple and when it was done restoring, I didn't revert to a backup. Meaning, it was setup like it came out of the box.

    The other iPhone, I used PwnageTool, made a new custom Firware, restored the iPhone and then again, I didn't restore to any previous backups I had made. Thus making it a freshly jailbroken iPhone with nothing else on it.

    Is that clear enough now?
     

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