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Good thing Apple doesn't take your advice otherwise the only thing it would ever make is Macs.

Dude, that would be great, except I'd likely not have a job then. I miss it when people would socialize and when Apple would actually put effort into PCs.

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How is it 2015 and we're still dealing with VVS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA

It's probably gotten worse recently due to Snapchat ONLY allowing portrait video and photos. To be fair, it's much harder to hold an iPhone sideways with one hand and record.
 
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There are minivans licensed in Apple's name with sensors for location and mapping and we get an :apple:Car out of that?

Someone, please explain this to me because I, personally, don't understand all the hype.

There were 3 separate rumors about a car that have nothing to do with these vans.
 
Not trying to claim Apple couldn't do it, just that there might be an easier way to obtain the data. Developing a system to collect it, mount it, hire people to drive, etc., etc., and so on. When it's been done before just seems overly complex. I have no doubt they could do it.

The thing that would make sense is if Apple is developing / testing a system that will give better results than StreetView. There is a long development time, where a single car driving around in Palo Alto is enough, and when they manage to get results better than StreetView in that area, it can be rolled out at large scale.
 
The thing that would make sense is if Apple is developing / testing a system that will give better results than StreetView. There is a long development time, where a single car driving around in Palo Alto is enough, and when they manage to get results better than StreetView in that area, it can be rolled out at large scale.

Competition is great. I'd love to see Apple take on StreetView.

They've got a long "road" ahead of them though... Google's StreetView has already mapped over 5 million miles of roads worldwide (and Google continues to improve)

I hope Apple has something amazing up their sleeves!
 
But it doesn't say much, even if Apple is testing a self-driving car the driver should still be able to take over at a moment's notice. Since they'd be personally liable for any accident.

It may just be gathering data for test purposes (and/or testing different control algorithms under road control, with the human doing the actual driving). That's one of the early stages of building a self-driving vehicle. Larger vehicles make it easier to mount sensors and other equipment, as well as carrying observers. I've seen something similar in France about ten years ago.

The fact that Apple is renting these vehicles rather than buying them outright suggests that they're not making major control modifications to them and they only have a short life.
 
A patent application of relevance perhaps?

3D Position Tracking for Panoramic Imagery Navigation http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...and+pd/4/4/2013&RS=(AN/apple+AND+PD/20130404)

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In Google's Streetview you either click with a mouse, swipe your finger or tap on a direction icon to journey along your path, with static images. Apple's patent instead describes a way to physically move your mobile device through space in order to move around in the virtual environment. Moving the device up, down, left, or right moves your virtual view of the displayed map location accordingly.
 
I'm sure they are putting time and money into something, but ...

... wouldn't it be funny if they had just made up one of these in the lab, swapped it over between a few rented vehicles, and drove it around a lot to worry Google ?
 
Maybe Apple should invest some of those billions of dollars towards finding a cure for those people who are physically incapable of rotating their phones to a horizontal position when shooting video.

google has one: a subtle onscreen hint asking you to turn the phone when in videocamera mode and holding the phone vertically.
 
My Dream of an Apple Car

Firstly folks do not get carried away, this is just my speculation of what I think an Apple Car could be like if Apple decided to build one.
I know that they may or may not be making one, I just am speculating.

You get up in the morning ready to go out in your shiny new Apple Imove Car.
You walk up to it and once you get close enough it recognises your Apple Watch and automatically opens the Car door. You get in and put the Seatbelt on and then slot your iPhone into the space in the centre Console.
Once you do a message pops up on the Phone's Display asking you to authenticate the Ignition. You do this by using the phone's Touch Id. This then allows you to start the Car by pressing the Start Button.
so this means that if a thief tried stealing your Apple Imove they would need your phone(just like they would need your Car Key) and your fingerprint plus when added with an Apple Watch they would need that along with the Pin code for it. (Once you take the watch off and it is put back on it needs a Pin code to activate certain features such as Apple Pay. This could be extended to the Car)
Also the Car could recognise the owner's Heartbeat and authenticate that way.

Then you are quickly away and using handsfree Siri you can control large parts of the car's settings such as saying "Hey Siri, turn on the Headlamps" or " Hey Siri, turn on the Radio to preset one".
You can also activate settings using the centre console touchscreen as on Tesla Model S. You would , just like Tesla's, be able to set the Car up just the way you like it including the Suspension and Air Conditioning as well as how long the Headlamps are on automatically before turning off once you get home etc.
It could recognise once you get home and using Homelink could automatically connect to your Apple TV or Mac Mini and download updates etc.
You walk away from the car and using your Apple Watch say to it "Siri, lock the Car" and then it locks itself, turns everything off and turns on the alarm etc.

You plug in the Charger and it charges overnight ready for the next day. Once you are driving and need to fill up you pull into a Charging Station such as Tesla Supercharger where a deal has been done to allow it's use. Or maybe Apple build their own. Or maybe you use another charging Station. You charge up and away you go. If none of those are viable or would take too long you use the onboard back up charger.
It consists of a Hydrogen Fuel Cell Generator where you take out your small canister of Hydrogen. Fill the Generators's tank up and then it starts charging the Car up straight away. After about 20 minutes you have 50% charge and away you go.
The Hydrogen Fuel Cell generators exist at the moment so very little adapting is needed to fit it into a Car.

You could as the owner authorise other people to use your Car such as your Wife/Husband/other person etc then they just slot their iPhone in and the Car sets itself up the way they like it including suspension, Seating, Air condition etc plus you could stipulate certain restrictions such as you could say your other half has no restrictions when using it but your Son/Daughter etc only can use it for a certain amount of time or certain amount of Miles.
Once that limit is reached and they park the Car up it then will not start again unless you (using your iPhone) authorise them to do so.
Then if your Car is ever stolen(would be very hard but I guess possible)then you could log in securely to Find My Imove and remotely wife the Ignition Codes rendering the Car useless as it would simply not work once the Thief stops the Car. it will not start again no matter what they do.
Plus you could track it with no way for the thief to turn that feature off unless they had you Apple Watch and had your Heartbeat. (every bodies Heartbeat is different I believe) .
The possibilities do not end their but you can see just how great an Apple Car could be and how it would force other Car Makers to get serious about electric Cars in a way that Tesla have yet to do.
 
It's not an Apple van: it's unmarked. So it's just a van driving down the street.
 
Not a car, but an add-on

I think I figured out the Apple car thing… They are not going into the automotive business. No, that’s not them. They are a company that creates things we acclimate into our daily lives. I think they are making something like a device which the manufactures can add into any car to make it automated car. That is how our society will start transitioning this technology. It’s easier to bring this in as an add-on than to buy a whole new car.
 
How is it 2015 and we're still dealing with VVS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA

Jeez. I feel like I am on reddit, with no escape from the VVS madness.

Because it's a phone, not a video camera. People are buying a phone that happens to have the capability to record video. So when they activate that feature, they are still going to hold it in the natural phone position.

Calm yourself.
 
do you have a CLUE whats involved in bringing a mass production car to market? comparing an electronics bringing a phone to market with bringing a car to market is laughable.

it aint happening.

If Apple actually is making a car of their own, I'm sure they know exactly what is involved. If Tesla can do it, why not Apple? Apple can't hire car industry experts? They have more money than they know what to do with.
 
Competition is great. I'd love to see Apple take on StreetView.

They've got a long "road" ahead of them though... Google's StreetView has already mapped over 5 million miles of roads worldwide (and Google continues to improve)

I hope Apple has something amazing up their sleeves!

So what? Surely one driver + 1 copilot can map 20,000 miles of road in a year easily. 5 million miles = 250 cars with 2 employees for a year. It's not the world's most demanding job, so $60,000 per employee and $20,000 for the car makes $35 million.
 
As noted, I think the reason the press has grabbed a hold of this rumor is that when you think about product categories that Apple could get into, where there is significant room for product improvement (which is what Apple does best), while still offering them the ability to make big money, there are only a few options. The television set, btw, is not one of them. Although I'm sure Apple could sell more tv's than they could produce, they would need to either sell at such a high price so as not to negatively impact their computer pricing model or reduce their computer pricing model, which does not seem like something they would do. They're obviously going to give watches a shot, they've changed the phone market, they've done pretty well with laptops and desktop computers, made the tablet market. Cars? Why not? Tesla figured out how to get into a market that has been all but closed off from new companies (other than what is being produced in China). The thing I think they could, and are already, improve on is the energy sector. They're already paving the way to be a company run on renewable energy, so why not build that idea out further and help states, cities, other companies do the same thing. Or even go all the way down to the family home? Tesla is thinking this way, so I would not put it past Apple to have a similar thought. The only issue is it's not a sexy, design driven, category, much like they have stayed away from going into the telco business, because they "don't want to just be the pipeline". With all of Apple's money, they're going to need to figure out what's next beyond just the typical re-fresh of the existing lines. I'm not talking the next 2 to 5 years, but 10 years out or more, so cars might as well go on the list of potential Apple products.
 
It was lost and had to turn around. Clearly it has something to do with Apple Maps.

Actually...

If it had something to do with recording for Apple Maps, then I would expect it to follow all roads that are recorded in Apple Maps to see if there is anything wrong or anything missing. So that car would drive into every single cul-de-sac in that town, find that it is indeed a dead end, and turn around, only to drive into the next one.

The same with a street view-like project. It would again drive into every single dead-end and take photos.
 
So what? Surely one driver + 1 copilot can map 20,000 miles of road in a year easily. 5 million miles = 250 cars with 2 employees for a year. It's not the world's most demanding job, so $60,000 per employee and $20,000 for the car makes $35 million.

It's not quite that simple because you can't get to a lot of roads without using the main routes which would already have been mapped.

Also you don't seem to have allowed for fuel and servicing costs and you would also have to factor in the costs of overnight accommodation because if would take a lot longer to cover all those roads if the drivers have to return home every night. :)
 
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