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'N42' iPhone 5 to Reportedly Launch at Same Pricing as iPhone 4S
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Maybe people have a lot of music and would get a 128GB model instead of having both an iPod and iPhone . . . ? And they don't bother getting the 64GB since it's not big enough.
Just a thought
There are so many more things that Apple has done which didn't come out right the first time. Just look at their product history.
You really need me to source the fact that 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB of MLC NAND is not expensive anymore? I don't mean to be sound condescending, but it's common knowledge. Look at any NAND storage devices on the market (of equal class), and see what they're charging.
But if you really need proof, here's just one quick example:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review
You'll see the tid bit about NAND pricing around paragraph 8. There's much more information on it should you choose to look around.
Cheers
And what's the proportion of those compared to those that did come out right since 1997?
Does it really matter? No. Either way, I have provided information that refutes the statement.
Yes the timing of this says, "hurry the iPhone 5 with LTE is coming and we'll lose so many customers, let's announce more LTE markets."
It also says "mid to late December if you're lucky or oops, it took us till Jan, Feb, or March 2013, but what are you gonna do, you upgraded and stuck with us."
I guess my question was more of what were the memory prices the last time apple specced up the iphone? as in if it cost x dollers per chip then, is the current memorry prices such that it costs them x again for the higher capacity chip?
I have no idea, hence my question. I know they have come down in price but has it hit that threshhold so to speak?
You've given information that refutes the literal, Sheldon Cooper like, interpretation. The spirit and intent of my statement, was to illustrate that these occurrences are few and far between, and the fact that one can easily name them of the cusp attests to that fact.
Learn to understand English and the intent of sentences given context; you'll find social interaction and legal disputes far easier to deal with.
I beg your pardon?
I'm sure Ping was a great success.
I'm sure that iTunes is the best software in the world - it isn't clunky at all
I'm sure that two of my power cables haven't prematurely died for no seemingly reason.
I'm sure that the original iPhone was the best success and it did everything right.
/sarcasm.
I understand English well, I did an internship with a lawyer's office a few years ago, and even considered law for a career.
Not even going to go into the inanity of your attempt to seem clever with 'obvious sarcasm over text'.
Ping: was fine, just presented in the wrong way over only one app (iTunes). Used it once, just didn't grip me. Saw no reason to use it over twitter, which was available to use on anything. So, I guess you have a point there.
iTunes: What's wrong with iTunes? It does what it needs to do, effectively, and I personally have no problem with it.
Power cable: I've never had any problem with Apple power cables; perhaps you shouldn't chew them.
iPhone: Meth is a hell of a drug, eh? Care to name one phone at the time that got everything right the iPhone got wrong, while being a capacitive touch phone with a comparable interface? Are you going to name the first iPad next?
The main two which come to mind, which I'm surprised didn't for you (perhaps it was the meth screwing you around?), are the first iMac's mouse and the Magic Mouse. The first was hilarious, the second failed in execution. The third, and this is fairly personal, is the GT330m MacBook Pro line. Terrible choice of GPU. Oh, and of course, the current Mac Pro (if only for the fact that it hasn't been refreshed for two years).
Other than that, out of the products Apple has released since 1997, which ones have crumbled?
Of course they are in low demand. Who wants to pay $400 for a subsidized phone? If they lowered the price of the 64BG model, I would most definitely buy one, but it was hard enough to pay $300 2 years ago for my 32GB. I think the 64GB model is above the "magic number" price that sounds reasonable to a majority of consumers and THAT is why there is low SALES, not necessarily low demand.
Agreed, and that just proves my point that a 128GB model won't sell well enough so Apple won't make one.
No, that proves the point that any phone in the 400 dollar price point is not going to sell well.
And a 128GB iPhone would be in that price point.
And you missed my point. Your argument is that people don't want the 128 GB. That the 400 dollar price point doesn't sell as well doesn't mean that people don't want the 128 GB, it means the price is higher for what most people want to buy. But for you to prove that it had to do with the 128 GB and it was less desirable, you have to prove people aren't buying because they don't need that size, not because the price is too high. You would have to prove more that less people would buy the 128 GB if they moved price points than if they kept the same price points and had the 64 GB there.
And obviously, Apple still makes a profit with a price point that high despite people not buying well because they're still going to offer that price point.
Chicken/Egg
Can't prove either way based on the points you're making. All Apple can do is go off current sales and make some assumptions from there. Well...I'm sure they have data on exactly how much space the average and high end users use. Either way, I will be surprised to see a 128 GB model. I want one...but I'll be surprised either way. And of course they are making profit. Unless they offset the lowered cost of NAND in some other parts this time, they'll make even more profit.
Hey Gix1k,
Under your display name it says "iPhone 4S 16gb". Is 16gb enough storage? Your reply would help me out alot. Thanks
Ping is being discontinued. Even Apple thought that it was not worth continuing or pursuing.
iTunes in its current state is not very efficient, it is resource hungry.
Power cables aren't chewed by anyone, maybe you hence why you referred to that. Standard wear and tear but none of them last a good year. Either the cable frays or the transformer dies.
iPhone, let's start with the initial iteration. There was so much more that could have been done. There were also so many failures and missing things in iOS even Steve Jobs backtracked on what he said.
I haven't used the first iMac's mouse - I haven't had an iMac. I use Magic Mouse and is it not a failure. I love my Magic Mouse and I use it when I'm not using my trackpad [when my MacBook Pro is docked].
The base iPhone price has risen by £30. That isn't very useful to consumers, whereas everywhere else stays the same.
I am not resorting to ad hominem attacks like you, and as a former drug user, I don't appreciate them.
1. Fine by me. As I said, only used it once. It failed in execution, not something very common with Apple.
2. Resource hungry? No problems here, on any of the machines I've owned.
3. My power cables that are 3-5 years old are still going strong. As I said, don't chew them, or whatever else it is you do to make them wear out in a year. Don't really want to know what that is, actually.
4. People change their minds, which is irrelevant when you compare the iPhone to what was available at the time. What else could have reasonably been done in a device made to test the phone-market waters with a revolutionary new interface/input method? Care to cite any sources with equivalent phones with what you claim the original iPhone to have lacked?
5. Like the Magic Mouse, huh? I'd hate to see what your hand looks like for it to be considered ergonomically viable; I use a Magic Trackpad and a Logitech G700/MX Rev, unrivaled combination when I MBP is docked.
6. The base iPhone price has risen? Um, no it hasn't. And if it has in certain markets, seems like an odd number to 'just for the sake of more profits' raise it by; seems like necessity from a slight increase in cost to me.
7. How lovely for the one to start the ad hominem attacks to cry fowl, as though I was working from a tabula rasa. Your condescension was unmistakable; as for your drug problem, quite frankly I don't give a damn. If you choose to take offense to a whimsical joke, that's your problem.
Just to add, I just noticed your little ego-bolstering attempt earlier on "I understand English well, I did an internship with a lawyer's office a few years ago, and even considered law for a career." I almost cried with laughter at that. For one, doing an internship filing paperwork @ any given firm does nothing to indicate a comprehensive understanding of the English language.
From my observation, you're a bit below the standard I maintained in grade 8.
In terms of a career, I was in law school, and after a couple of years realised it to be boring, pretentious and long-winded. I then switched to computer science and physics, and am now considering moving into journalism, all while holding down full-time work as a federal employee at the age of 21.
So please, don't try to patronise me and think I won't call you out on it. You may get it past an intellectual equal of yours, but don't try it on me and attempt to subvert the issue by crying fowl. You opened the door, learn to walk through it.
Anyway, I've wasted enough time on you and this thinly veiled fecal slinging. Have a nice year, and stay off the drugs.
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1. Fine by me. As I said, only used it once. It failed in execution, not something very common with Apple.
2. Resource hungry? No problems here, on any of the machines I've owned.
3. My power cables that are 3-5 years old are still going strong. As I said, don't chew them, or whatever else it is you do to make them wear out in a year. Don't really want to know what that is, actually.
4. People change their minds, which is irrelevant when you compare the iPhone to what was available at the time. What else could have reasonably been done in a device made to test the phone-market waters with a revolutionary new interface/input method? Care to cite any sources with equivalent phones with what you claim the original iPhone to have lacked?
5. Like the Magic Mouse, huh? I'd hate to see what your hand looks like for it to be considered ergonomically viable; I use a Magic Trackpad and a Logitech G700/MX Rev, unrivaled combination when I MBP is docked.
6. The base iPhone price has risen? Um, no it hasn't. And if it has in certain markets, seems like an odd number to 'just for the sake of more profits' raise it by; seems like necessity from a slight increase in cost to me.
7. How lovely for the one to start the ad hominem attacks to cry fowl, as though I was working from a tabula rasa. Your condescension was unmistakable; as for your drug problem, quite frankly I don't give a damn. If you choose to take offense to a whimsical joke, that's your problem.
Just to add, I just noticed your little ego-bolstering attempt earlier on "I understand English well, I did an internship with a lawyer's office a few years ago, and even considered law for a career." I almost cried with laughter at that. For one, doing an internship filing paperwork @ any given firm does nothing to indicate a comprehensive understanding of the English language.
From my observation, you're bit below the standard I maintained in grade 8.
In terms of a career, I was in law school, and after a couple of years realised it to be boring, pretentious and long-winded. I then switched to computer science and physics, and am now considering moving into journalism, all while holding down full-time work as a federal employee at the age of 21.
So please, don't try to patronise me and think I won't call you out on it. You may get it past an intellectual equal of yours, but don't try it on me and attempt to subvert the issue by crying fowl. You opened the door, learn to walk through it.
Anyway, I've wasted enough time on you and this thinly veiled fecal slinging. Have a nice year, and stay off the drugs.
iTunes is resource hungry - there's no other way round it.
This is the third power cable that has done the same thing. I could put it down to my own usage of it, but no other power cable has done what they had done.
Most devices out there had very basic capabilities such as file management, data transfer via Bluetooth and other technologies and even MMS, which I did use. Java mobile apps and games also existed at the time.
I have small hands, and it is ergonomically comfortable for me to use the Magic Mouse. I haven't seen anyone with problems with if, should I be honest.
I think you need to read back, you clearly are not understanding that you initiated the attacks after you suggested that I "Learn to understanding English...".
It was not an ego-bolstering claim, it was and is fact - in response to your absolutely ludicrous comment. You have again assumed that all I did was paperwork and filing. To the contrary, much more was expected of me, as I toured with the legal assistants in research for case reviews etc.
From my own relative judgement, you appear to be lacking in respect. That prevails above all in my wisdom. Regrettably, I have enjoined you in argument pertinent to intellectual ability. I do not seek to validate you, myself or anyone in this regard, as evidently you do. I find this utterly distasteful.
I have no time to waste on your abject nonsense. Goodbye.
The implications from your tone were irrefutable; I did not seek them, they were evident upon reading your subjective assertions. I do not show respect to those who refuse me the courtesy of receiving it. I do not seek to validate myself by responding to fatuous claims with someone I neither know, nor wish to know on a forum of strangers; I mainly enjoy calling those out, whoever they may be, on their disingenuous motives and hypocrisy.
If you find this distasteful, I suggest some self-assessment before posting. On the whole, I found this little repartee enjoyable (debate is one of my more primal urges). I especially enjoyed your last comment, which contradicts the pattern of behaviour you've displayed. Is this from a lack of understanding, or another attempt at revision and/or the gain of sympathy?
Again, I suggest you 'look before you leap' next time. Goodbye.