Oh me either. But I understand the concept of statisticsthat neither you nor I had an issue with the home button is precisely what's pointless.
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Oh me either. But I understand the concept of statisticsthat neither you nor I had an issue with the home button is precisely what's pointless.
so because you never had a issue with the home button = no one has had an issue with the home button. nice to know.
THat's like telling some one who got mugged, "I've never been mugged... pointless complaint."
I mean, seriously?
It's a pointless complaint if the home button not working doesn't affect the person. Not if it doesn't affect you (unless you are the one complaining). For example a pointless complaint would be something like, "The home button doesn't respond slow enough". It's supposed to respond quickly so it's pointless to complain about it not working like it shouldn't work.
And by the way, I had home button issues. To the point I couldn't get the phone to turn on and I thought it was broken and I started learning to hit the power button to make sure it was just that the home button wasn't responding. When I finally turned it in to Apple cause it was doing this so often, they quickly exchanged it and the guy said he definitely noticed it felt different clicking it than the new one they were giving me. So yes, it does exist. Just cause you didn't have it happen doesn't mean it doesn't. You are one person so how could your experience dictate what happens amongst a million phones?
Oh yeah, and the new one? Doesn't have that issue, I've had it now for longer than I had the original.
Yep, seriously. It's stupid. Btw, if you think the non-physical buttons on the other phones don't break as well, you'd be wrong.
The entire argument is stupid and pointless.
Edit: 5 secs of searching...
http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nok...-touch-capacitive-buttons/td-p/1375977/page/7
There are plenty more.
So complaining about your physical button because you ASSume capacitive buttons never fail is 100% wrong and stupid.
The entire argument is stupid and pointless.
Edit: 5 secs of searching...
http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nok...-touch-capacitive-buttons/td-p/1375977/page/7
There are plenty more.
So complaining about your physical button because you ASSume capacitive buttons never fail is 100% wrong and stupid.
Of course, anything can break. But do they break as often as the ones on the iphone does? That's the contention. My button was starting to break within months of having it. I kept it for almost a year and it just got progressively worse to the point it was obvious it wasn't just me seeing things and that if I didn't turn it back in I was going to have major issues the next year after it wasn't in warranty. The problem is the buttons tend to be weak and tend to fail quickly (either that or there is a lot of quality control and a bunch of weak ones got slipped in that were defective and broke quickly).
And once again, you're *ONE* experience says *NOTHING*. It just says your one phone wasn't one of the ones that had the problem. The fact that many people on here are having a problem or had the problem says to me there probably is a problem when this many people have experienced it. I mean if it wasn't that common it wouldn't end up being a large controversy cause only a few people would have experienced it to care and most people would be agreeing with you.
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Oh, and btw, I guess you're also saying that since you didn't get cancer that it must not be a serious complaint. I mean, every creature can get cancer...
Also, I'm sure Yugos worked when they are brand new. And, well, every car has parts that die. So if the Yugo's clutch dies (Cause clutches do die, they are wear out parts), that's not an issue right? Except that argument ignores the fact that the clutch died far sooner than it should have. Yes, parts break, but they still should be able to last a certain amount of time, even parts that are "wear out" parts and because of how they are used will eventually die and there is no question on that. THey still should last a certain amount of time.
Or I guess you'd be happy if you bought an iphone and the button died the next day. I mean, buttons die eventually, right?
My *one* experience is actually *thousands* of experiences. I'm a mail admin for an extremely large global company. I deal with mobile devices all day long. I've been configuring iPhones as well as many others) to connect to mail servers since 2007. I'm telling you that the failure rate, even on the physical button, is much lower than the failures I've seen on so many other devices. Complaining about the iPhone home button is pointless.
Buttons may all die eventually, but I've seen machines where buttons are used for decades without failure. So yeah, eventually...but that might mean 20 years. Worrying about it is dumb. Anything and everything can fail at some point. The iPhone home button does not have a high failure rate or this forum would be filled with threads on it. But as it stands, they are few and far between.
Edit: let's acknowledge one thing, Apple does design very well. Their products usually all last very well. They obviously could have made the the button capacitive from the start. It probably came up as an option during the original design. And yet they decided to go physical. If you guys think this design wasn't well vetted out by Apple before choosing it, then you why are you buying an Apple product in the first place. Apple chose a physical button for a reason. I don't know what that reason is, but knowing Apple it wasn't just some stupid decision with no thought behind it. And anybody who says otherwise is clueless and not thinking about their statement before making it.
Buttons may all die eventually, but I've seen machines where buttons are used for decades without failure. So yeah, eventually...but that might mean 20 years. Worrying about it is dumb. Anything and everything can fail at some point. The iPhone home button does not have a high failure rate or this forum would be filled with threads on it. But as it stands, they are few and far between.
Edit: let's acknowledge one thing, Apple does design very well. Their products usually all last very well. They obviously could have made the the button capacitive from the start. It probably came up as an option during the original design. And yet they decided to go physical. If you guys think this design wasn't well vetted out by Apple before choosing it, then you why are you buying an Apple product in the first place. Apple chose a physical button for a reason. I don't know what that reason is, but knowing Apple it wasn't just some stupid decision with no thought behind it. And anybody who says otherwise is clueless and not thinking about their statement before making it.
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Apple is rarely "first" to market, but when they bring it to market, they do it right.
I have had button issues as well on multiple iPhones. Your flaw in your reasoning is thinking all buttons are made the same from both a quality and durability standpoint
All I know is that I was either very unlucky with the small sample of iPhones and iPod touches where 75% of them did have home button issues or that the button design is not as durable as it should be
Either way, having a faulty home button is irritating
Edit: a google search seems to make it not a rare issue to be had
http://www.google.com/search?q=ipho...button+issues&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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You ≠ everyone. Besides, what if they bumped up the $199 option to 32GB? Why would you even argue with that? "Oh no, I wanted a lesser 16GB option." I can't believe how many of you are even arguing against bumping up the minimum to 32 GB while staying at the same $199 price point.
Were you there in the beginning of MobileMe? MobileMe had so many issues, we both know that.
I went through .Mac to MobileMe and now iCloud. I also recall iTools.
Same here.... I got the 4s on the release date last year, but you have AT&T you can get a early update discount, however you have to pay an extra $250. Totally worth it if u want the new one. Just sell ur 4s on eBay. Sold my 3G last year for 185.00
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I meant "upgrade discount". I called them. But she didn't know the new price of the phone
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The 4s was originally $299.00. Those prices above are for the 4s. Atleast on AT&T website. So disagree. The iPhone 5 will be the normal if not more than expected. It's 2012
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Totally agree! That's what I'm doing.
As for the button issue I had one swapped out because of a dead button. Before that I had 2 iPhone 3's exchanged because the wifi died and an iPhone 4 that was swapped out after the glass cracked after 2 days just from being in my pocket. I've had Nokia and Sony phones that had no issues at all over the course of my contract.
I might just have been unlucky but clearly Apple do have failure issues and are no more reliable than any other brand. The only reason I stuck with it and didn't get seriously pi$$€d about it is because it's just so easy and convenient to get them swapped out.
I might just have been unlucky but clearly Apple do have failure issues and are no more reliable than any other brand. The only reason I stuck with it and didn't get seriously pi$$€d about it is because it's just so easy and convenient to get them swapped out.
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Apple, like any other company, isn't perfect. Obviously they have had some products or services that weren't as successful as the iPhone, ect. I'm sorry you experienced problems with MobileMe, but speak for yourself, because although it was more limited than iCloud in terms of functionality, it wasn't a "failure", IMO.
The point is that Apple doesn't usually bring something to market first, but rather waits until the technology matures to a good point.
Total agree. But you see the New iPad is in 16GB, it is very likely iPhone follow the same spec every year.
Google search turns up issues for capacitive button issues as well. Apparently you missed that point.
If you have a 75% failure rate, you might wanna check yourself. If that were a realistic failure rate, Apple would have stopped selling phones with the first model.
I'm listing mine on ebay so I can get my first non-iPhone since the beginning. I am sad.
What point am I missing? I just tried to show that iPhone home buttons not working aren't a rare occurrence. Not sure where I brought up capacitive buttons. May you show where I did?
Also, not sure why you keep implying that buttons don't go bad when many here have told you their buttons malfunction over time
TBH, not sure what you are "debating" about as the issue is very real. I mean I have my iPhone 4 right here exhibiting a faulty button. Or do you think I am making it up or something?
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