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and the IO-HD supports format conversion as well, so you can ingest at 1080i60, and output at 720p without blinking an eye. if you have an HDV camera, this would be great, because you can ingest at ProRes 422, then do your editing, because HDV is a very lossy format and is horrible for many image manipulations.
Capturing HDV through the IO-HD doesn't have any advantage over working with HDV natively in FCP using the Apple HDV codec. Image manipulations in FCP are done in 32-bit floating point, and it's been that way since FCP 4. In other words, FCP already has your back with respect to image degradation.
I'm sorry for the stupid question, but do you need the IO box to use the new codec?
No, but if you plan to output to HDCAM or some other HD tape format, the IO-HD would be necessary.
http://www.apple.com/finalcutserver/

Watch the video.
Is the UI a hint of what's coming up in Leopard?
Black with blue.
No, it looks similar to Shake though.
Hey why wasn't there a GUI change? Will that come with Leopard? I mean, the main gray window didn't seem to change. I'm not a FC user by any means, but it seems ugly in my limited screenshot world.
When I use FCP I'm looking at my content. The UI isn't in my way at all. At most maybe they could do away with the brushed metal.
But, but, but......this is video. I can't store a lot of full HD on my Macbook Pro. This is for Mac Pro, XSAN market.
You can store a lot of full HD on your MacBook Pro. It would be over-the-air or possibly HDV.
One of the primary parts of the presentation is that now you can. Your post reads like you didn't pay attention to that part. It's near the beginning and it specifically refers to MBP as the way to edit HD in SD Size Files. New external compression hardware for MBP only $3500. :rolleyes: :eek: :)
Well, you already could before. What this is about is the ability to cut 4:2:2 HD at (uncompressed) SD data rates, which at 220mbps and 145mbps is still many times the data rate of DV and HDV.


All those incredible editing apps and all they can come out with as an ad for appleTV is some rubbish pan across three rooms...
That's not a pan. It's a trucking shot. Some of us, including me, could use a refresher course once in a while.
I'm disappointed that they are pronouncing it "Eye-Oh-Ach-Dee" instead of "Eye - Odd".
Why would AJA (which rhymes with Asia) start pronouncing a product with "IO" in its name any differently than they had before? I guess that statement stems from being unfamiliar with AJA and / or its other products.
But untill now I am not able to edit uncompressed HD on a Macbook Pro, and I will not be till July. And even then, I don't see myself, even with the IO-HD, doing a full production on the Macbook Pro. The unit is really meant to edit HD on location not doing a full production.
1. Uncompressed HD is only needed for high-end effects shots, and not an entire production. Unless of course you're making the next Sin City or 300, in which case just about the whole production is an effects shot.
2. If you listen to what's being said in those videos on the Apple site, you'd notice that ProRes422 and the IO-HD is indeed meant for entire productions.
Suddenly that extra $1500 for the 8 core looks worth it. 100% utilization of compressor on all 8 core resulting in 3X rendering time.
3x less transcoding time? :)
Did anyone else notice DVD Studio Pro didn't recieve an upgrade.

I was hoping for blu-ray support
Yeah, so much for all the Blu-ray fanboys here who insisted that Apple's membership on the board of directors of the Blu-ray Disc Association would definitely mean something as of NAB 2007.

I myself had speculated that BD authoring would come but I was mistaken.

As a practical matter, Apple is more behind HD DVD than BD, as HD DVD authoring on red-laser DVDRs has been with us for two years now.

Anyone who is really itching to author Blu-ray movie discs should take a serious look at Sonic Scenarist and the system it requires.

There are excuses out there about why Apple hasn't yet included BD in DVDSP. However, those haven't stopped Sonic.

Obviously changes or amendments to a spec (for example, BD Java) can be added in subsequent software updates. That's how Apple handled the adoption of 802.11b, g and n.

I hope Apple adds BD authoring soon, but in the meantime I'm happy making HD DVDRs of short duration projects.
I also agree that I think DVDSP is going to get a free upgrade sometime later , so don't think we should be freaking out over that yet.
I agree with Rocketman and Mr B. :)
 
I have no idea why people are rating this negative.... this is some revolutionary stuff that was introduced by apple.

All you winers are screaming... "I HATE APPLE. WHY DIDNT THEY UPDATE EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT THEY CURRENTLY SELL AT (INSERT EVENT) !!!"

Did it ever occur that apple has events aimed towards individual markets? So, at that time they release stuff aimed towards them. I thought they did awesome today with their new stuff. Congrats apple!
 
This is certainly aimed at pro's.

(note: the apostrophe just used is there to indicate the ommission of letters from the end of the word "professional", not to indicate a plural. Just add an "S" or "ES" for plural in most cases. Using an apostrophe there is incorrect. Please don't misuse the apostrophe.)

With full color control, you can change the mood of entire scene. Give your scene a little orange tone to make it feel warm and cozy, or turn it blue to make it edgey and cold. This will be neat to play with!

And you couldn't do that in FCP before? :confused:
 
Color Requirements?

Minimum Requirements to Install All Final Cut Studio Applications
A Macintosh computer with a 1.25GHz or faster PowerPC G4, PowerPC G5, Intel Core Duo, or Intel Xeon processor
1GB of RAM
An AGP or PCI Express Quartz Extreme graphics card (Final Cut Studio is not compatible with integrated Intel graphics processors)
A display with 1024-by-768 resolution or higher
Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
QuickTime 7.1.6 or later
A DVD drive for installation


Color-Specific Requirements
The standard graphics card in any Mac Pro, 17-inch MacBook Pro, 24-inch iMac with Intel Core Duo, or 2.5GHz or faster Power Mac G5 Quad:
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
ATI Radeon X1600
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT, 7600 GT, 7300 GT, 6800 Ultra DDL, 6800 GT DDL, 6600, or Quadro FX 4500
A display with 1680-by-1050 resolution or higher
A three-button mouse for full functionality

So I can install it on my MBP 15", but I can't run it? Is it the display? What if I hook up an external display?
 
DVD Studio Pro?

How DVD Studio Pro manage to sqeeze by and get no changes made? It still has lots of bugs to be fixed, updated template choices, etc. They could've done at least something to it, couldn't they? Really though, why did they leave that 1 app alone and not do anything at all to it, and then just throw it into this major new bundle? :confused:
 
I dunno what is has been lately, mabye the delay in leopard, but i'v become really tired of apple. For so long have i been fixated about there every move, but now i just cant be bothered. It's as if they have have just left there computers behind and instead focused on the less exciting such as apple tv iphone. I mean , why the hell didnt jobs say anything at NAB to help mend our shattered hopes for a new os soon?

Omigosh, this post so deeply and personally upset me that I penned an outraged, fifty-page post that would have been very gratifying if you were, say, a troll seeking validation for your existence by eliciting that kind of response (which I'm sure you're not.) Sadly, MacRumors won't let me post something that long so you'll just have to lie back and imagine what it would have been like.

And oh, believe me--it was sooooooo good.
 
What is 4:2:2 aspect ratio?

4:2:2 is not an aspect ratio, but rather a color space. For example: normal mini dv cameras record at a 4:1:1 (which means for every 4 luma values there is 1 red and 1 green chroma per line) 4:2:2 is double the resolution in color values; and 4:4:4 is full color resolution... which is why you should never do chroma keying with a 4:1:1 camera because it's almost impossible to get a decent comp and good edges... That's why a camera like the Panasonic HVX200 is such a break through camera because it records in 4:2:2 with their DVCPRO-HD codec! ...before that, I think the cheapest cameras that could do 4:2:2 was around 65K!

....so this Pro Res 422 codec will keep a very high color resolution and very low bandwidth according to Apple... I'm just hoping it can also do alpha channels (like the Animation codec!...that would be awesome!)
 
It's not an aspect ratio. 4:2:2 is how the luminance and color is handled with video. Regular DV is 4:1:1 meaning that you have 4 pixels of luminance for every 1 and 1 color sample. Basically it means that there is four times the infromation in the luminance (brightness) of the pixel than the actual color. 4:2:2 is only twice as much info so you get better color information. Much better for things like green screening.

P-Worm

What I'm wondering is with 4:4:4 cameras around or out soon, why not support that?
 
Sony Vegas on the windows side has open timeline and format support since I can remember them... I think back to 2002. I can't believe a professional solution such as FCP decided to support it only now.

I have to say, Vegas was a true breakthrough for its time. I wonder how it is holding up these days.
 
IoHD.jpg
Io_IoHD_hand2.jpg
IoHD_sm.jpg


http://www.aja.com/html/products_Io_IoHD.html

IoHD Features

SD-SDI and HD-SDI I/O (2)

Component I/O (SD and HD)

Composite and S-video I/O

HDMI I/O

16-channel embedded SDI 24-bit audio I/O

AES/EBU 8-channel unbalanced audio I/O

Analog 4-channel balanced audio I/O(XLR)

Analog 2-channel unbalanced audio (RCA)

Apple ProRes422 Codec Support (in hardware), 145Mb and 220Mb bitrates, in 720 and 1080 HD full-raster 10 bit 4:2:2—and in realtime

Genlock with loopthrough

RS-422 machine control

LTC Timecode I/O

Connects to Mac via a single FireWire 800 cable

For Final Cut Pro™ 6 on Mac OS X

3-year Warranty

http://www.aja.com/pdf/Io_Line.pdf
 
Sony Vegas on the windows side has open timeline and format support since I can remember them... I think back to 2002. I can't believe a professional solution such as FCP decided to support it only now.

I have to say, Vegas was a true breakthrough for its time. I wonder how it is holding up these days.

Final Cut has supported an open timeline for a long time now too, its just that you had to render before playback, which I bet Vegas has to do too. FC6 will allow real-time playback WITHOUT any type of rendering.
 
Do you mean, (2/3)x less transcoding time? :)
Nope. You could rephrase that to say "1/3 to 2/3 the transcoding time." What you wrote is almost like "half as less." I get what you're going for though, because "3x less transcoding time" is a sloppy way to phrase it too. :)
 
New ACD for July

IoHD.jpg
Io_IoHD_hand2.jpg
IoHD_sm.jpg


http://www.aja.com/html/products_Io_IoHD.html

IoHD Features

SD-SDI and HD-SDI I/O (2)

Component I/O (SD and HD)

Composite and S-video I/O

HDMI I/O

16-channel embedded SDI 24-bit audio I/O

AES/EBU 8-channel unbalanced audio I/O

Analog 4-channel balanced audio I/O(XLR)

Analog 2-channel unbalanced audio (RCA)

Apple ProRes422 Codec Support (in hardware), 145Mb and 220Mb bitrates, in 720 and 1080 HD full-raster 10 bit 4:2:2—and in realtime

Genlock with loopthrough

RS-422 machine control

LTC Timecode I/O

Connects to Mac via a single FireWire 800 cable

For Final Cut Pro™ 6 on Mac OS X

3-year Warranty

http://www.aja.com/pdf/Io_Line.pdf

New ACD for July then as this had HDMI output but no DVI
 
For all the whiners: :p

tissuebox.jpg

I LOVE IT! lol

If I knew what anything that was announced today meant, I'm sure I'd be as happy as the rest of you are! :)

Omigosh, this post so deeply and personally upset me that I penned an outraged, fifty-page post that would have been very gratifying if you were, say, a troll seeking validation for your existence by eliciting that kind of response (which I'm sure you're not.) Sadly, MacRumors won't let me post something that long so you'll just have to lie back and imagine what it would have been like.

And oh, believe me--it was sooooooo good.

....Now you have me wondering...:confused:
 
That's not a pan. It's a dolly shot. Get an education. Thanks. Okay, I know that sounded harsh but really, it's a very basic concept in film and video.

Actually you dolly in or out, but you truck left or right.

You may want to be clear on that if you want to work in television.
If you say "truck in or dolly left" you may not get a response. ;)

I know what that article says, and it's wrong.
 
Any more info on this ProRes 422 creature? Someone up thread (page 3, 4?) mentioned it in the same sentence as AVID. The extremely brief wikipedia article makes me believe that this is a format independent of anything that AVID supports.

Is it an open standard or proprietary? Apple was gung-ho about the open source movement when they first switched to OS X but I don't see this being opened up much. I'd be interested to see what ProRes 422 could do on the Divx/Xvid scene. Apple claims uncompressed HD video (1GB/minute?) at SD video (100mb/minute)memory footprints? 10:1 uncompressed could easily be 20:1 with light compression...
 
Actually you dolly in or out, but you truck left or right.

You may want to be clear on that if you want to work in television.
If you say "truck in or dolly left" you may not get a response. ;)

I know what that article says, and it's wrong.

Thanks man. It's been a few years since I took those classes and in my day to day work I'm not shooting on dollies. :) So I'll amend my previous point and say some of us can stand a refresher course (including myself).

Any more info on this ProRes 422 creature? Someone up thread (page 3, 4?) mentioned it in the same sentence as AVID. The extremely brief wikipedia article makes me believe that this is a format independent of anything that AVID supports.

Is it an open standard or proprietary? Apple was gung-ho about the open source movement when they first switched to OS X but I don't see this being opened up much. I'd be interested to see what ProRes 422 could do on the Divx/Xvid scene. Apple claims uncompressed HD video (1GB/minute?) at SD video (100mb/minute)memory footprints? 10:1 uncompressed could easily be 20:1 with light compression...
That person was comparing ProRes422 with Avid's DNxHD (link on the right column).

Also, open standards (which QuickTime touts) doesn't mean open source (which as you pointed out is related to OS X).

ProRes422 doesn't do anything special for DivX/Xvid.
 
Final Cut has supported an open timeline for a long time now too, its just that you had to render before playback, which I bet Vegas has to do too. FC6 will allow real-time playback WITHOUT any type of rendering.

I'm pretty sure it didn't. I would have had to actually wait for it to do the rendering if it did, right? Never had to wait for anything while working in PAL/NTSC projects.

It had some awesome "Dynamic RT"-like engine as well. That was back in the day where I had a 1.8 Pentium 4.

Final Cut Pro is also nice... Although it has a much higher learning curve, that's for sure...
 
I just got 7, I would hate to have to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading. Is there a flaw with 7 I don't know about?

:confused:

Depends on who you ask. Works great for me. There is room for improvement, but there always is. Don't get too caught up by everyone complaining about Logic 8 taking so long. Just have fun and make music... in the mean time I hear that Apple released a new version of FCS!
 
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