twistedlegato
macrumors 65816
It wont work becuase it says that it wont work with Intel ingegrated graphics.
Plus that kinds of software needs a Mac Pro. Not even a MBP can do some of those things unless they make them quad core with HUGE HDDs.
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It wont work becuase it says that it wont work with Intel ingegrated graphics.
Plus that kinds of software needs a Mac Pro. Not even a MBP can do some of those things unless they make them quad core with HUGE HDDs.
I thought the MBP had a graphics card in it and only the Mac Mini, Macbook and bottom end iMac have the integrated Intel graphics?
apple support high def disks (HD-DVD)
the following paragraph was on apples websight saying the part in bold
Versatile DVD Mastering
Whether you burn a one-off disc on your Mac Pro or send a title out for commercial replication, you can have confidence that your DVDs will play back on a wide range of set-top players and computers. Burn your own discs in a wide variety of formats, including double-layer DVDs. For commercial replication, choose one of the traditional red laser formats or double the capacity on your HD DVD disc by using a blue laser format. Add commercial features to SD titles, including copy protection flags used by replicators, region coding, and jacket picture art.
apple also says it again here
Commercial replication
DVD Studio Pro 4 lets you create industry-standard images for SD and HD DVD replication, including dual-layer (DVD-9) as well as single-layer discs. Replicate to traditional red laser formats or double the capacity on your HD DVD disc by using the blue laser format.
it sounds like apple is going with HD-DVD's for their High Def format
below it shows a picture of the burning options with the option to burn with a blue laser
the following paragraph was on apples websight saying the part in bold
Versatile DVD Mastering
Whether you burn a one-off disc on your Mac Pro or send a title out for commercial replication, you can have confidence that your DVDs will play back on a wide range of set-top players and computers. Burn your own discs in a wide variety of formats, including double-layer DVDs. For commercial replication, choose one of the traditional red laser formats or double the capacity on your HD DVD disc by using a blue laser format. Add commercial features to SD titles, including copy protection flags used by replicators, region coding, and jacket picture art.
apple also says it again here
Commercial replication
DVD Studio Pro 4 lets you create industry-standard images for SD and HD DVD replication, including dual-layer (DVD-9) as well as single-layer discs. Replicate to traditional red laser formats or double the capacity on your HD DVD disc by using the blue laser format.
it sounds like apple is going with HD-DVD's for their High Def format
below it shows a picture of the burning options with the option to burn with a blue laser
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ziwi
macrumors 65816
Yes, I was curious about this as well. Could one expect an updae in the near future? The 10.4.9 update killed the FCE HD 3.0 - so choices were a downgrade to 10.4.8 or upgrade to FCE HD 3.5 Universal. So if one was looking to make FCE operate properly again with the current OS patch - one may want to be sure not to spend on the FCE 3.5 if there is a 4.0 appearing in short order...anyone know or have thoughts...? 😕
mklos
macrumors 68000
Go buy a Dell then with some half-ass created software on it. Only created half-ass just so they can say they released it on time. Like I said before...some people you just can't please!
Yeah, Apple knows when NAB is, but obviously you don't realize how many hundreds of thousands if not millions of lines if of code it is to make these amazing apps. They have 364 days until the next NAB keynote and maybe, just maybe they have some amazing new features that take a very long time to get sorted out. You also need to stop and think about the software engineers families too. They can't just sit there 24/7/365 and write code. There's a lot of crap that needs to get done too before it even hits the shelves.
What would have been worse is if Apple took to your thinking and not released anything at all just because it wasn't quite finished. Talk about bitching and complaining, you would have seen nothing yet if that would have happened.
If you haven't noticed, EVERYONE does this, not just Apple. Car manufacturers annouce their vehlicles before they on dealer lots, Intel announces new CPUs before they are released, etc... EVERYONE does this! Sometimes they are also delayed for uncontrollable reasons. So maybe you just need to chill out a little and stop whining.
vincebio
macrumors 6502a
what is wrong with some poeple on here....this site is getting full of absolute spoiled brats.
let me get this straight...
apple releases one of the best updates or new features for pro video editing and we have 165 negatives.....and people are still moaning about fecking ipods and new macbook pros.
grow the feck up
let me get this straight...
apple releases one of the best updates or new features for pro video editing and we have 165 negatives.....and people are still moaning about fecking ipods and new macbook pros.
grow the feck up
KindredMAC
macrumors 6502a
I caught this too.... not entirely too happy since I've been hearing and also hoping that Blu-Ray became the next standard.
Reports say that this fall, retailers are going to start scaling back on HD DVD media and keep Blu-Ray. Don't ask me where I read it, I read it during lunch at work about 3 weeks ago.
But I guess nothing says that a Blu-Ray option might not be out of order since it too uses a Blue Laser. Maybe HD DVD in this app is a "generic" term????? HERE'S TO HOPING!
As nice is this FCS upgrade is, I think I'll go with Adobe's CS3 Production bundle. I think app for app, they are quite comparable. I'll be downloading the Premiere Pro demo that's now available just to be sure, but for what I'll be using if for, capturing video to be used in After Effects(compositing, roto, animation) and simple trimming, it should be more than capable. My main app is After Effects, and while the updated Motion looks nice, I don't think it'll be on par with AE, not yet anyway. Plus I do all of my color-grading in AE anyway, so I don't need Color(although it looks really nice.)
The main reason though, is Adobe's education licensing which is way better for me than Apple's. Not being able to upgrade from edu. versions to full versions makes no sense on Apple's part. The fact that I can spend $600 on everything I need from Adobe and then upgrade in 18 months for a few hundred bucks and have the full license makes all the difference for me. That's a big hurdle cleared when I set up my own design studio after school. Kudos to Apple, though, for putting out a nice upgrade and giving Adobe some AE competition w/ Motion 3.
The main reason though, is Adobe's education licensing which is way better for me than Apple's. Not being able to upgrade from edu. versions to full versions makes no sense on Apple's part. The fact that I can spend $600 on everything I need from Adobe and then upgrade in 18 months for a few hundred bucks and have the full license makes all the difference for me. That's a big hurdle cleared when I set up my own design studio after school. Kudos to Apple, though, for putting out a nice upgrade and giving Adobe some AE competition w/ Motion 3.
Shame there's no way to either buy or upgrade just STP.
Sucks for those of us foolish enough to buy STP 1.0.
Sucks for those of us foolish enough to buy STP 1.0.
If you have a HDV camera, and you've already recorded using HDV compression, conversion to another format does not fix any of the HDV compression issues with fast motion. It does help editing since long-GOB decompression is not being done on the fly.
Some HDV cameras, like the HVR-V1U from Sony have an HDMI output port which provides uncompressed 1080i60 A/V streams prior to any HDV compression during acquisition. (It is clearly after compression/decompression if the A/V was already put on tape). Using the BlackMagic Intensity device, you can ingest that HDMI stream to your mac either uncompressed (with a suitable drive array), or convert it on the fly to another format, such as 720p (DVCPRO-HD for example) or AIC preserving most of the original data.
If the new Apple box has HDMI capability, then its new compression will be interesting: during acquisition with a nearby MBP, one could store HD at SD rates directly to your hard drive.
Ed
I know, I know...but that doesn't stop me from complaining, y'know... 🙄
I am pretty sure these are good releases for pros...it's just that I ain't one, so I feel really bored at the event...as for the poster up there bashing lawyers, I could just say that without us you wouldn't even have Macs in the first place...😎
As a consumer I've been looking to buy a HD camcorder as they've become very affordable as late. Currently I believe both Final Cut and iMovie take the HD footage and convert it using an intermediate codec to make the footage editable. The downside being the massive disk space required. I hope iMovie 07 will use this new codec if the codec isn't too demanding for the consumer Macs. Is Apple licensing this codec or is it their own creation?
iMovie does convert your footage in general (not sure specifically about HD footage, but it does with SD footage). However, FCP does not.
Now, one thing which is often overlooked in FCP by prosumer-range editors is that it has excellent support for working in low-res files (say, sub-SD) for speed "offline" then replacing those clips with their full-res (say, 2k or larger) matches for the final render. Saves a HUGE amount of time when working hi-def when you don't have a 4-disk "scary RAID" backed octo-proc screamer to work with. Even when you do, allowing that scary RAID and screaming CPU to give you a low-res proof of your edit in a few seconds instead of minutes means you can turn around much faster on ideas and make significantly better editing decisions.
Rocketman
macrumors 603
1. If you are bored, ignore it and exercise your right to free speech - in this case, silence.
2. 95% of all lawsuits filed in the world are filed in the USA (cite: CNBC last week Power Lunch). We have nowhere near 95% of the population, or 95% of world GNP, or 95% of transactions either by count or dollar volume.
3. This might not be CURRENT lawyers' fault. But it is certainly lawyers' fault by virtue of being legislators, judges, and advocates resulting in the system we DO have, which is nothing more than a series of rules and precedents.
Fix that or suggest how, and be our favorite lawyer.
But in the mean time, "What to you call 1000 lawyers on the bottom of the ocean?"
Rocketman
Multimedia
macrumors 603
A Free Update To DVD SP 4.5 Is likely Later This Year
I wouldn't have a cow over this just yet. My speculation is that an update is in the works but won't be ready by next month when everything else will. So as others here have already posted, a free update to DVD SP 4.5 will likely be offered later this year when it's ready. We could be wrong. But it stands to reason this will probably be the way they bring it up to speed with the rest of the pack. 🙂
CmdrLaForge
macrumors 601
I kind of hope so and there is definitely a good chance for it. Just ordered the new FCS2 🙂
Mr.Gadget
macrumors 6502
Not to mention that in the small print, Apple says they recommend 4GB RAM to work with uncompressed HD, which neither the Macbook nor the Macbook Pro can have... This is app very much aimed at the Mac Pro universe. It can take upwards of 60GB of drive space too. It is interesting that the CPU requirements aren't all that stringent - min 1.25GHz G4. That would be painful though!
arkmannj
macrumors 68000
My experience in the past has been that the education/academic version is exactly the same as the commercial versions, with possible exception to licensing terms, and the startup screen for the apps says "Academic" or "Educational edition" (or something like that) on it.
To bad alot of education folks missed the opportunity for the cross-grade. It was a pleasent and unexpected surprise when I opened my Apple package for the cross-grade and saw it was the commercial version.
Does anyone know if we buy the commercial upgrade, if it will come with printed documentation ? (yes, call me old fashion but I still like hard copy books)
When I got the cross-grade (which as I recall was also an Upgrade for me) it was just electronic documentation on the install disks
arkmannj
macrumors 68000
Looks like my trusty Quicksilver duel 1GHZ G4 with 1.5GB Ram (Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb) may be seeing the end of its life in this capacity for me. Oddly I'm a bit sentimental about it
but I'm sure a Mac Pro will clear up that sentimentalism pretty quick 🙂
