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I'll take my DSLR (Canon 70D) over the iPhone (or any other phone/P&S, FTM) any day. You'd have to be insane to bring a phone as your only camera on a "once in a lifetime" trip! This story is bogus. NG would not pay his expenses if all he had with him was a phone camera.

You'd seriously expect NG not to laugh in your face if you turned up with a plastic, consumer-grade toy like a 70D? If you were nearer, I'd lend you my real camera (EOS-1Ds)
 
Lol a "professional" who shoots for posting instagram. Right. Thats not even close to a pro.

If you use Instagram, you're someone who shoots for fun, not professionally.

This is by no means a pro reviewer.

You guys should learn to read before you post. Jim Richardson's worked for National Geographic for over 25 years.

Apple even featured him in one of their "Aperture in Action" videos when Aperture 3 was released.



The issue is that it is not actually a real square format sensor. It is just cropping = wasting a lot of pixels, and it can be done is post processign very easily, allowing for some reframing. Maybe Apple could use a multi format approach.

Meh, if you're going to crop it anyways, then who cares about wasting pixels. I'd rather shoot in the square format straight-away than crop it after... my composition would probably end up better since I would be planning square from the start.

Probably doesn't realize the filters are optional... :rolleyes:

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Supposedly the best smartphone camera comes with the Lumia 1020 Windows Phone. The camera has bragging rights specs of 41 MP. I guess that automatically makes it the hands down winner of the smartphone industry.

Megapixels don't mean anything. You could take a shot with that 41MP phone and I'll take the same shot with my 18MP Canon dSLR and my image will be sharper and better quality.
 
You'd seriously expect NG not to laugh in your face if you turned up with a plastic, consumer-grade toy like a 70D? If you were nearer, I'd lend you my real camera (EOS-1Ds)

OK - joke over. But if you're going to start belittling someone else's equipment, you better make sure you're the top dog. You should also research your subject a bit better - this guy is an experienced NG photographer who was enjoying messing around with the 5s and sharing some of the photos on Instagram, which he appears to use as a simple photo-sharing site much like Flickr, PhotoSIG, or many other sites.

My 1Ds is 10 years old, cost £700 and is probably worth £400, but don't get into a gear war with this guy armed only with your 70D (which is a nice camera). He'll beat you to death with a 300 F2.8.
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Yea it looks great in a small size. Put it up on a 27" iMac or HDTV and compare it to a DSLR and it looks like ****.
 
Sure he might know what it looked like - that doesn't mean he knows how - or cares - to make the photo match reality. I shoot real estate photography with a much better camera than the iPhone, so I've taken more than my fair share of outdoor landscapes, and I know what correct exposure and white balance looks like. This image has zero highlights and there are some areas in excessive shadow. It's just flat out underexposed. And I know what color skies, trees, mountains, and water look like in real life. Here is s rough estimate of what the white balance should have been (bear in mind I'm going off of an image heavily downsized to web resolution so I don't have nearly the editing flexibility as he had).

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Compare that to the original images;
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If you tell me the second one is more believable, either your lying or your monitor is badly miscalibrated.

ur one looks better BUT its too reddish-greenish than the original IMO. and i think my monitor is calibrated. also, urs is way too bright for that atmosphere. it looks a little unnatural where the original doesnt. but again, they are all my opinion and urs might be different :)
 
Would like to see a no bias, factual comparison with the Nokia/Windows, Samsung and 41MP images from normal light to dark settings.

You can take the blind test...

Code:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Lumia-1020-beats-the-iPhone-5s-and-Galaxy-S4-by-a-mile-in-our-blind-camera-comparison_id48050
 
No one knows for what reasen this photographer is making this statement. Maybe the camera is great, maybe he would say this no matter what. I dont eat this raw.
 
I'm impressed by the photos from the Nokia 41MP camera phones. Not enough to switch. I owned the first iPhone, which didn't have a camera. The camera is not the primary criterion I used to select a phone. But I'm glad that the iPhone cameras let me take good pictures.
What you're saying here holds some serious truth.

There are a lot of things that are not the primary criterion for selecting a phone, but the iPhone excels at a lot of these secondary criteria. For me, that's one of the most important features of the iPhone: all-round it's perfect.

You see a lot of people saying: 'my phone has a better screen than the iPhone', 'my Lumia has a better camera', 'my Xperia is thinner', blah blah blah. However, neither of these things are the primary criterion. In fact, since a phone has so many features, you can never use a 'primary' criterion because that would mean neglecting secondary criteria.

My point: the iPhone is all-round superb. It's hard to find a phone that's so fast AND thin and light AND beatifully designed AND with a decent camera AND with a good OS AND etc...

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I'll take my DSLR (Canon 70D) over the iPhone (or any other phone/P&S, FTM) any day. You'd have to be insane to bring a phone as your only camera on a "once in a lifetime" trip! This story is bogus. NG would not pay his expenses if all he had with him was a phone camera.
I disagree.

Don't get me wrong, DSLRs like the 70D take amazing pictures, better than a phone probably ever will. However, when you go on a 'once in a lifetime trip', do you want to spend that trip constantly being occupied with taking photos or do you simply want to enjoy the trip and take a few snapshots on the way as effortless as can be?

I hate having to deal with exposure, ISO, diafragma, lenses, blabla when I'm on a trip. I go on a trip to enjoy the trip, making photos should have zero effort for me. The iPhone is awesome by default, I just take it out and make a shot and it looks good automatically. It's effortless.

My iPhone will never match the quality of a DSLR, but a DSLR will never be as pleasent for taking photos as the iPhone. Not only because it's a complex device to use, but also because of it's weight. When I'm on some remote island, I want to travel lightly and DSLRs are heavy.
 
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Well, I own an iPhone 5S and a Lumia 1020 and the Lumia's camera runs circles around the iPhone's. In good light, the 41 megapixel sensor yields extremely sharp and detailed pictures in extremely high resolution. In low light, the 1020's OIS in connection with the built-in pixel-combination algorithm produces low-noise 5 megapixel pictures with fairly accurate colors and high detail. The 1020's flash is capable of evenly illuminating an entire room, while the iPhone 5S's only manages to illuminate the object directly in front of the lens.

In short: the 1020's camera is an enthusiast's tool, while the iPhone 5S produces pictures at best suitable for the casual picture-taker. It's nothing special. Slightly better than the Galaxy S4 and Note 3, about en par with the Z1 (at least in terms of image quality, not in terms of resolution) and perhaps slightly better than the LG2's but far below the 1020 and probably below the 920 as well.

The improvement from the iPhone 5 (which I previously owned) is absolutely minimal, except for the processing performance (allowing slow-mo shots etc).

Not sure what Apple paid NG, but the review is massively overblown.
 
No doubt the camera is better than previous iterations... still makes you wonder about his incentives for plugging the 5s so hard... apple paycheck? :rolleyes:
 
4,000 photos? Did Apple give him a special edition 128 GB model???

4,000 photos over four days. So 1,000 per day. That's what most of us have using iCloud. I handle that with a 16GB iPhone, and I could easily take 2,000 if I had a MacBook to sync with every day.
 
Not to mention that there is no mention that he did it all at once - he could have easily taken 500 pictures in the field, offloaded them to some sort of storage system (like his laptop at the hotel) and deleted them. He just said he took 4000 over 4 days.

A Mac will do that automatically - except that you have to press a button to confirm the deletion.

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You guys should learn to read before you post. Jim Richardson's worked for National Geographic for over 25 years.

... which these complainers could have learned by typing his name into google.

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Incorrect. No matter how many photo your device uploads to iCloud Photo Stream, only the most recent 1,000 are kept there.

Which is fine if you have a Mac turned on back at home. This guy probably had a MacBook in his hotel room to look at the photos in the evening, but if you go on a holiday and intend to shoot far more than 1000 photos, just leave your Mac turned on at home with iPhoto running and it will slurp all the pictures from your photo stream.
 
Haha, so obviously paid by Apple.

The product focus, even in the headline itself, to make sure no one is missing this is about the iPhone because it's essential for his article. Most glaring is that he omits all limitations of a smartphone camera. He even explicitly goes... "What surprised me most was that the pictures did not look like compromises"

This is a professional photographer used to the full-frame format. He's fully aware of the compromises. He sees them in every photo. He has an eye for this. That's why he works for National Geographic.

As an amateur, even I am. The iPhone 5 as well as 5S has major limitations in resolution, dynamic range, controlling depth of field, high ISO performance. When I say "The iPhone 5S has awesome low light performance!", I am saying this in a context. The context of smartphones. But wow, there are compromises. Even a tiny RX100 will run circles around the iPhone 5S.
 
You'd seriously expect NG not to laugh in your face if you turned up with a plastic, consumer-grade toy like a 70D? If you were nearer, I'd lend you my real camera (EOS-1Ds)
Actually I think NG would ask you what photo you took your photograph portfolio that you showed them in the job interview. And they'd probo want you to use the same camera.

One think i have learnt. A photo is only 50% about the camera. The other 50% is the person taking the photo. Learning to take a better pic and getting better subject material can improve your shots more than any camera can. (Not saying that high end hardware is useless though, it's still good too).
 
In other words, "It's very good at what it does." However, for the things it doesn't do – such as optical telephoto, action, and selective use of depth of field – there's still a lot of very good reasons to carry a dedicated camera.

If you're good enough you can take good pictures without all of those but if your skill is limited then sure, better equipments = better results.

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Apple has continually improved the camera in the iPhone and the one in the iPhone 5S is the best, by far! Much superior in low light (far less noise), much sharper images, and much faster (part of which may be iOS 7).

Mark

That's really great to hear.
 
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Gear is mostly irrelevant.

Your eye, imagination, ability to translate what's before you into a compelling image, and then process that into a compelling photograph that releases narrative to a viewer is what rules.

Everything else is pretty much micenuts in comparison.
 
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