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They would rather make nothing on their shows? Oh wait, advertising revenue. You can guarantee that this new "free" service will have commercials and no way to skip them. Thanks. Just what I wanted... the need to fire up my piece of crap PC and then watch commercials.

NBC is DUM!

I guess I can just tivo the shows, watch them whenever I want, and then skip the commercials all together. I mean I would have been fine paying them $2/episode for a couple shows, but, eh, screw it. If they don't want my money, so be it.
 
I guess I can just tivo the shows, watch them whenever I want, and then skip the commercials all together. I mean I would have been fine paying them $2/episode for a couple shows, but, eh, screw it. If they don't want my money, so be it.

Yup, ditto. Either that or I just won't watch anything related and won't support financially either.
 
Does it make anybody else SICK knowing deep down it would take all but a days work (relatively) to get this crap working on a MAC on day one. How does a company announce something for only one OS, months before they start and still KNOW they won't have time to get another version up and running? The answer: THEY ARE F'N LAZY.

I guarantee the service absolutely sucks. It won't be compatible on any portable device, so why would you want to download it?

IDIOTS... just put your crap back on iTunes. :mad:
 
Nope because OS X still consists of around 5% market share. Guess who has the rest. And with Macintels if you don't like it virtualize.

This is a deceptive statistic. That 5% of market share is of all desktop PC's. That includes everybody's computers at work, school, etc. How many of all desktop PC's are used for watching video on? I guarantee you that OS X's market share is a hell of a lot bigger in that realm.
 
Does it make anybody else SICK knowing deep down it would take all but a days work (relatively) to get this crap working on a MAC on day one.

Not true: it would take a day's work (maybe three) AND a choice not to get in bed with Microsoft. As long as companies are more scared of Apple than they are of Microsoft, some of them will go with Microsoft DRM. And Microsoft's opposition to the Mac is not just laziness :)
 
Uhm... watch it on TV, or record it with eyeTV, or don't watch the show at all?

It's all well and good to call NBC a bunch of idiots (which I agree with), but don't try to claim NBC forced you to illegally download their shows. That part you decided to do all on your own. Access to TV shows is not in the Magna Carta - at least not the last time I checked.
They didn't force me, but I certainly won't feel bad doing it. Not that it stands a chance of happening considering how lame their fall lineup is, anyway.
 
Why it is so hard for them to figure out people don't want to watch TV shows on their computer :confused:


I do. What I think is really going on is this thread is that Apple fanboys who were convinced by the stories that NBC really wanted to charge $4.99 an episode are frustrated to see NBC offer the shows for free because they had their hammers out, ready to bash. Now that it's not the case they're going to make up other reasons to be upset that Apple will be losing revenue and that iTunes could be made less relevant as more content providers may take NBCs path if it's successful.
 
I'm ditching satellite TV in favor of iTunes. I've had enough of paying $100+ a month for crap. I don't watch much TV. I don't channel surf. I watch a few shows. Why should I pay upward of $1200 a year for the handful of shows I watch? It's absurd!

So, I'm ordering my shows on iTunes this season and watching them via AppleTV. I was going to order at least one NBC show, Heroes. Now I'll simply have to view it by some other means. NBC's decision not to support iTunes won't stop me from watching. It will, however, cost them my $40 season pass.
 
I do. What I think is really going on is this thread is that Apple fanboys who were convinced by the stories that NBC really wanted to charge $4.99 an episode are frustrated to see NBC offer the shows for free because they had their hammers out, ready to bash. Now that it's not the case they're going to make up other reasons to be upset that Apple will be losing revenue and that iTunes could be made less relevant as more content providers may take NBCs path if it's successful.

I think what upsets people is the fact that NBC took the iTunes choice away. Let them give away programming for free on their website like ABC does. But why prevent people from buying via iTunes too? Personally I would never watch a show on a website or on my Mac. I want to kick back in my comfy chair and watch it on a big screen with a kicking stereo. Buying from iTunes let me do this (via AppleTV).

The second thing that upsets people is the lack of iPod support. How many people are downloading shows to watch as they commute to work or fly across the country or whatever? Now these people can't buy NBC shows.

NBC should be HAPPY that so many people WANT to buy shows at $1.99 an episode. I'll gladly pay that to not have commercials. Giving away shows for free, but forcing commercials upon the viewer, isn't a bargain. I'll look elsewhere. And we all know how EASY it is to find shows elsewhere.

The only thing NBC is doing is alienating people like me who would rather be legit and pay for the programming we enjoy - but who will NOT be forced to watch commercials.
 
Bets are on

Will other networks follow? Who wants to make a bet? That's the crucial question for apple. ABC/Disney won't, but is this going to be:

"Welcome to the new era of Apple being the new middle man being cut out of the equation!"

...not that I'm happy about that, we'll see how it goes...

And I hope interoperability wins the day in the end - not looking good for that either...
 
My god, this site is brutual on complaints... Mac people are zealots and never seem to look at the broader picture. NBC is doing what best benefits themselves like any other business. Don't think Apple does not as well...
 
My god, this site is brutual on complaints... Mac people are zealots and never seem to look at the broader picture. NBC is doing what best benefits themselves like any other business. Don't think Apple does not as well...

How does taking a choice away - a choice that made NBC money - benefit NBC? If they want to offer shows for free online, or sell them, or whatever, they still can. iTunes is simply another content distribution mechanism. And there are a lot of people who use and enjoy it.

NBC isn't going to convince me to obtain content some other way. I like the iTunes/iPod/AppleTV product ecosystem. Pricing is simple. DRM restrictions are totally manageable. And it just works. Why would I go for some new media player or new DRM system that is unproven and that won't work on my iPod, iPhone, or AppleTV?

Media companies really have an exaggerated sense of their own importance. Their shows are entertainment. They're relevant today and totally irrelevant tomorrow. TV isn't like music. You don't watch the same show over and over again. You watch it once or twice and then you're on to the next thing.

Apple's system is the best thing going because it's the ONLY system that actually CARES about the consumer. The rest are all about squeezing a few more pennies out of the consumer and restricting how, where, and when content can be viewed. This is not progress.
 
You can't blame NBC for running a test to see if it can out-Apple Apple, but there's no reason it couldn't have launched NBC Direct and remained in iTunes for another year. :confused:
 
DUM NBC, never will go on their site to force me to watch a show on my PC when i can whatch something on my TV with :apple:TV
 
They would rather make nothing on their shows? Oh wait, advertising revenue.

My guess is that NBC figures that they can make more money by telling their advertisers that not only will there ads be seen on TV but all over the internet! Whoo hoo! They will use downloads to track demographics and sell specific ads offline. A lot of companies think that the internet and blogs and downloadable programs are magic buzz words that bring them money.

I can see them making more off ads than iTunes the first year or two.
 
My god, this site is brutual on complaints... Mac people are zealots and never seem to look at the broader picture. NBC is doing what best benefits themselves like any other business. Don't think Apple does not as well...

Where did all the trolls come from? I think NBC is trying to astroturf their iTunes debacle.

Lets see how they are doing what's best for NBC.

Leaving the most successful internet distribution system where they were paid for their programing to move to some vapor ware system (Hulu) only to announce they are going to compete with that by offering programing on NBC.com. Oh and they are not going to support the largest selling media player.

Don't see how that's good for NBC.
 
The record companies are coming down; TV networks will be next. Not because of the efforts of Apple, but because technology has evolved to the point where the services they provide, and the way they provide them, are simply no longer necessary.
I agree, the paradigm shift has begun.
Cds, Dvds, HD-Dvds, etc., and (if they don't get with the times) their manufacturers, distributors and retailers are all destined for the history books.
 
what is the point of this, when you can just go on nbc.com and watch the episodes for free, that's how i watch my favorite Show Heroes!...What i need to watch them on itunes for?
 
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