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I find this person's comment to be so true-
what is the point of this, when you can just go on nbc.com and watch the episodes for free, that's how i watch my favorite Show Heroes!...What i need to watch them on itunes for?
They [NBC] have to take the HD Viewing off their website if they expect to see any gain in leaving the iTMS. I also heard that they were going to charge $1 more through themselves than through the iTMS. Completely stupid move.

Piraters-mess with NBC-don't support them since they are now anti-Apple
 
Bah i download the torrents for my tv shows...

Yes i know its stealing...but why should I or anbody feel bad about any coporation who do the same to you some way somehow...

If it exist why not....Love ya torrents.

Does nbc really think anybody out there cares about paying 2-4 bucks an episode? when they already get royalties from ads etc.
how are they able to give it for free but then charge on the internet? lol
Sounds like a case of "giving my hand but instead taking the arm" type of deal.

Whatever
 
TV isn't like music. You don't watch the same show over and over again. You watch it once or twice and then you're on to the next thing.

i feel differently. i can watch some shows over and over and not get tired of it. don't want to get too far into it here, but is there some sort of superiority to music to other media in life?

but about this nbc thing, as long as they support macs, this sounds like a good thing. but then again, i don't have apple tv, and i don't really care about big hd megascreen tv. i think the people that aren't nitpicky about the latest technology aren't going to be too mad about this (expect for non windows users if this isn't mac compatible).

and i know many people (me being one of them) aren't too warmed up to paying 2 bucks for a digital copy of the show, when many of the shows will be on dvd within a year for about the same rate as you pay on itunes, so it isn't the end of the world i think if a show isn't on itunes.
 
Who cares

I find that there are no programs that I watch on NBC, CBS or ABC. For this reason this is all a non-issue for me.

For those that want a recording of a program a week would be far too short of a time. Sounds like a video recording device either tape or DVD still would do a better job. Paying for advertising TV seems to be wrong, but is now the common way for most people. Cable & satellite are both versions of paying for free TV. So paying for ad free downloads is just a new way of doing things.

Bill the TaxMan
 
Bah i download the torrents for my tv shows...

Yes i know its stealing...but why should I or anbody feel bad about any coporation who do the same to you some way somehow...

If it exist why not....Love ya torrents.

Does nbc really think anybody out there cares about paying 2-4 bucks an episode? when they already get royalties from ads etc.
how are they able to give it for free but then charge on the internet? lol
Sounds like a case of "giving my hand but instead taking the arm" type of deal.

Whatever

What would keep you from stealing? If the corporations were somehow "good?" Or does it simply come down to knowing it's insanely unlikely that you'll get caught?

I think iTunes does a pretty good job (when the networks cooperate, that is) of making it cheap and easy, which is--at least for me--a prerequisite for keeping things legit.
 
It's funny how everyone and their mom thinks that they can take down iTunes. There is no way that is going to happen anytime soon. Apple is currently doing nothing wrong with iTunes/iPod. Microsoft is the giant of computers and because of the mess known as Vista people are looking at alternatives like the Mac. Apple may be the giant of online content but again they are not messing anything up. iTunes will not fall because NBC withdrew from iTunes and is doing their own thing. We got along without them for years so why do we need them now?

Don't want to disillusion you but iTunes is very vulnerable right now ..... notice how many times News.com is reporting that such and such a network is staying on but with serious reservations etc (i.e. News Corp that says that they don't have a gripe with iTunes but that creators of content should have a say on how it's packaged and how much it's sold for; or CBS who just said that they have no intention to leave iTunes but that the iTunes distribution model barely makes a ripple in their revenue stream) ....

Steve Jobs is very aware of how iTunes is very vulnerable at this time which is why he made a polite remark about NBC with an appropriate audio selection (forget which one) at the recent iPod launch, make no mistake about it he very much wants NBC back as this defection may embolden others to do the same in the not too distant future and then who would he sell all those new video capable iPods to ?
 
Lame. I will record them for free now with eyeTV and edit out the commercials. Stupid NBC Brass. Been retarded for 50yrs now. This is why lettermen went to CBS.
 
NBC is betting on convenience. They are offering it free in hopes people will become used to using their craptastic service. Kind of like coke dealers giving the first taste free. They are about as honest as that too.

I do not think this will work. The popularity of iPods simply can't be denied. There is Zero... ZERO .... Z E R O (for those that want to live under the fantasy world idea that they will) chance that they will produce it drm free which means it will never work on iPods.

Commercials are a dying bread, and trying to market something extra with commercials is a dumb idea.

I think large companies like Broadcasters and Record companies are going to be in for a rude awakening soon.

Alot of artists and media producers are getting fed up with the market scams these companies are pulling. There are musicians who are taking a serious look at self distribution. Television producers are also looking at product placement in shows as a source of revenue to produce shows. The power of online distribution is going to really break down the current business models recording companies and broadcasters have been milking for so long.

Oh and for those comments about how producers should have a say on how their content is sold, thats ridiculous. They do not currently have a say. NBC pays companies that produce shows money for the broadcast rights. It is NBC that decide on how that content is sold. Apple is simply saying they are not willing to carry over priced products. It really is NBCs loss not Apple. iTunes will continue to be strong and I suspect as producing companies get tired of loosing money because of NBC mismanagement Apple may find themselves in the position to buy directly from the producers.
 
good, they are fighting back against the new microsoft (apple) They have obviously done a little more HW than us and our ideas about how this will ruin them are probably wrong. Competition is good. Free markets good.
 
good, they are fighting back against the new microsoft (apple) They have obviously done a little more HW than us and our ideas about how this will ruin them are probably wrong. Competition is good. Free markets good.

Thats right competition is good... keep dreaming, this is not about competition. Apple is not the new Microsoft. Apple is just smart enough to know that people are not going to pay 4.99 an episode and is not interested in participating in NBC's bundling plan. Im sorry but I have no desire to pay a dime for shows I didn't want because NBC wants me to. And yes the popular shows would be 4.99 because you would get an episode of some lame show that wasn't worth watching to begin with bundled in with the show you actually wanted. So ya cheer on NBC for trying to push their cheap shows down the throats of customers by saying "you can't buy what you want unless you buy this as well". I know Apple is not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts but in this case they are protecting the consumer from price gouging.
 
OK, apparently several people here do not presently watch episodes on the web. ABC has practiced a similar distribution method with some of its active shows. You can watch online for free, with a single sponsor (3 commercials right where the breaks are usually), and certain shows only allow you to view last week's show (so you have to make time to watch it that week). Other shows have all their episodes online. Previously the technology only allowed poor quality or small videos but now there is full screen, higher quality video. I also believe the original videos did not "support Macs" but you could still watch them.

NBC has some shows online already. Again, with commercials from a single sponsor. It is not a bad idea. Advertising revenues will make up for what they miss from iTunes plus some. Believe it or not skeptics, Apple will feel a hurt from this one combined with other new services available on the web. It might not be a death toll but there will be, or is, a certain amount of hurt.
 
Craptastic!

So...

They would rather make nothing on their shows? Oh wait, advertising revenue. You can guarantee that this new "free" service will have commercials and no way to skip them. Thanks. Just what I wanted... the need to fire up my piece of crap PC and then watch commercials.

NBC is DUM!

Neuroguy

Exactly the way they, and a lot of content providers run their websites now. They make you sit through a commercial before you can view the content. It's why paying $1.99 through iTunes is, in my opinion a good option. I love watching commercial free shows on my own time on the laptop, computer, iPod or iPhone of my choice.
 
2) Though the details are vague, the article says future versions will support Macs as well as "portable devices". Even NBC isn't stupid enough to not be compatible with the 100 million+ iPods out there. (right...?)
lol, want to bet? :)

My guess is that "portable devices" means "zune" and its WMV ilk, and not iPods. :p AFAIK, the only way to get a DRM'd show onto a iPod is via iTunes. Since DRM is required, no iTunes == no iPods.
 
I don't get it.

Okay. I come home from work and check my Tivo to see what has been on NBC. Okay, not really. Now, I do come home from work to see what is on my Mac!!!!!!! Maybe I am naive and maybe not. There are simply so many options for media that at this time if NBC's content will be in Winsuck format then I don't really care cause I wont be watching it or any advertisements that tv offers and I don't care for their lackluster content anyway. Maybe I will sleep better tonight.
 
thank god its still free. i cant still catch Heroes on tuesday. but i liked the way it was before in that you just streamed it off their website. i dont really wanna have to d/l some program...
 
Downloads are over-rated.

It's bad enough 99% of NBC shows blow, but to watch them all shrunk down with crappy sound, who needs that?
 
Seriously, I am happy the shows are free. Right way to do it unlike itunes and sj's maniac need for control.
 
Seriously, I am happy the shows are free. Right way to do it unlike itunes and sj's maniac need for control.

I'm pretty sure the videos are free if you want to stream them. You'll still have to pay for them if you want to download them, just not on a mac, and definitely not on your iPod.
I pay for shows every once in a while, but I dvr everything, so its not that often.

And the comment about steve? That's funny, I thought NBC was building their own site for control. Steve's trying to lower prices and they jump the ship. Something to think about
 
You mean I can watch NBC/Universal on my little 14" laptop PC instead of my 60" front projection Home Theater? I'm there! (rolls eyes...)

You were watching apple crappy quality videos on your 60'' frong projection home theater?.. wow!!!, some people will go to great lengths to support apple!!.
 
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