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iOS is popular with the kiddies. Go figure. This explains a lot.

"haw haw iPhone is for children amirite" was already posted about a zillion days before you got here. That's what happens when you couple predictable jokes with posters who don't bother reading threads.
 
Ok, thats a Wikipedia article on sampling. Care to elaborate on why you posted that and quoted me?

you were questioning if 5200 teens were enough, wanted to point out that all surveys are based on sampling.
 
simple minded people like simple to use things

Which is why you live in a box :rolleyes:

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That's a really good point, and one that I hope isn't lost on Apple. As someone else mentioned, flip-phones are now often perceived as the "old geezer" phones. When the teens of today hit their 40s, what innovations will Apple have that will make a new generation of youth happy to be using the same technology as their parents?

We'll know in 10-20 years :p Apple's almost 40 already, so I imagine they've already been through a couple of generational shifts!
 
I was just in Asia and the vast majority of people we saw were on the Galaxy Note II. Apple needs to step it up on the innovation curve otherwise I think there's a rocky road ahead.

Were you in China or South Korea? Because that would explain it. In fact, of the people I know with Samsung phones, almost all of them are Korean or Chinese. I don't know what it's like since Armenians don't make phones.

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Who did they survey? Just in one city or everywhere? Also, is the Microsoft tablet percentage 0 (wouldn't be surprising since nobody I know even is thinking about it)?
 
Makes sense. I would love to see a survey on college students as well (18-28 or something) because it seems like just about everyone on my campus is using some generation of iPhone. I see a few Androids here and there but Apple products are everywhere. It's the only place other than Starbucks that I also see a ton of Macbook users.

It seems that in markets like the US where the iPhone is easily accessible ($199 or less out of pocket), Apple is very strong.
 
Because their parents laughed at them when they asked for an iPad. They'll have to settle for a Kindle Fire.

They broke down the number for kindle fire separately in this chart. The number for android is strictly play store androids. not amazons tablets.
 
And I supposed 2/3 of those teens with iPhones have cracked or broken screens. I'm cheap, kids should not have smart phones, and they should have plastic phones that are cheap and easily replaceable when broken or lost because they're kids.

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Makes sense. I would love to see a survey on college students as well (18-28 or something) because it seems like just about everyone on my campus is using some generation of iPhone. I see a few Androids here and there but Apple products are everywhere. It's the only place other than Starbucks that I also see a ton of Macbook users.

It seems that in markets like the US where the iPhone is easily accessible ($199 or less out of pocket), Apple is very strong.

Some colleges have special/exclusive deals with Apple, Dell, Lenovo, or HP etc... on products for major discounts. When I was in college, the iPhone was not out yet, and people got $100 off of iPod sales, $50 off of nano sales, and I think something close to $400-500 off of MacBook sales.
 
But they are not gaining marketshare and they are not innvating. If your trying to compare the s3( a year old phone) to the new iphone 5 the gs3 is way ahead. ip5 doesnt even have nfc, google now, or s beam.

NFC is a neat technology... but I hardly expect mass adoption in the next 2 years. In other words... if you buy a phone now... you might not get a chance to really use NFC during this 2-year contract.

In the scope of this article... buying a Samsung phone with S-Beam when all your friends have iPhones won't offer much value.

Google Now is cool, I'll admit... but somehow we've survived history without it. And I'm a heavy Google user.

with more and more people preparing to switch to the gs4 apple better get it together because releaseing lookalike phones over and over with a spec bump isnt going to cut it.

Did you look at the chart?

Of those surveyed... 62% are planning to buy an iPhone.

And 48% already have an iPhone... and are probably tied to many games, apps and iTunes purchases.

Nowhere in this article does it say people are preparing to switch to the Galaxy SIV

Look at Samsung's own numbers. Samsung sold 63 million smartphone last quarter... but only 15 million of them were the Galaxy SIII

The Galaxy line is pretty small in the grand scheme of things, huh.
 
Hardly a ground breaking survey when only 5200 teens were surveyed!

Considering you only need 30 to get usable data I'd say it's fine.

What matters more is how they selected their samples.

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Show us how complicated your toilet is, please.
We need to know how a sophisticated person poops!

Actually toilets are pretty complex, especially if you consider all the physics principles that go into their function. They're simple to operate, but they really are genius in design.
 
Generally when people adopt a brand they stick with it.

Brand loyalty is one of the worst things you can do in life to deny yourself what technology has to offer.

Apple does applaude your myopic vision and taste for products.
You are their target consumer.
 
I realize this is a subset, but...I know a lot of young teen girls (13-15 y.o.) and if asked, all of them would most likely say that their next phone will definitely be an iPhone. They sincerely think that they will get one, but it is usually wishful thinking.

If they do get an iPhone, it's often a hand me down from family. Others will get a hand me down of another brand. If they are lucky, the parents may spring, yet again, for a replacement screen for their 4/5g iPod Touches.

Yes, they love Apple products and most were introduced through the iPod Touch in the last few years, but as long as they can Kik, Instagram, Skype, and access YouTube (on WiFi) they're happy and get into more than enough trouble. They don't really care which brand device they use - they just have to be able to communicate (that is, when their devices aren't taken away as a punishment which seems to happen on a fairly regular basis).
 
And do you think their parents will buy them their next Apple product?
On minimum wage, teens will see what an Apple product really costs once their are out of the house.

Just saying, I bought my very own iPhone and two iPod Touch while I was a teenager and still living with my parents. I now am 23 and live on my own and have my own apartment and get very little support from family to help me through college. They help me just enough with college to keep me away from loans.

I know their are a lot of teens, a lot more now, that actually buy their own crap. But please don't generalize all teens to be that way. Their are more young people than you think that really do work their a$$ off for everything. It just strikes me that everyone seems to think that teens these days are going to ruin lives in America everywhere because we don't know how to work or something. I'm just saying people don't actually look around and just assume the wrong things. More teenagers really do work their ass off. Yes their are still A LOT of kids who get all their crap paid for from mommy and daddy, get a crazy nice first car. But that isn't the teens fault. I'd actually blame that on their parents which goes on the generation that people seem to think will be the last great generation. Maybe that generation is actually the worst one and killing it for everyone.

Ok...HOLY CRAP! I'm very sorry about that. Don't read into that too serioiusly. That turned into a rant that it should not have turned into! Don't read into it too much! :D
 
Actually, intelligent people like to use things that are simple, elegant and well thought out.

Or they think they're smart because they can 'work' iOS and say they're experts at iOS. "Oh I changed some settings in preferences, I know iOS soooo well!" When in actuality, they're not doing anything special and just Apple tells them to do.

Android is very simple, elegant and well thought out. You can use it as given...or go beyond what Apple allows (yes allows) you to do with your device, and actually tweak it to your likings (not Google's). Or you can go all out and root it.

As Burger King once said, Have it your way. But with Apple it's, Do it our way.

No but really, you're implying that users of iOS are more intelligent because it's more simple and elegant - I think an intelligent person could go both ways. I mean they're smart right? Wow...it's scary the affect iOS and Apple have had on their users. Not saying iOS is bad. But to say what you said is just...ummm...laughable at best. The Reality Distortion Field is strong.

Oh and what would you say about the Apple Maps fiasko? Not so well "thought out" eh? And antenna gate?

:rolleyes:

People who don't know any better buy copycat products thrown together to make a buck.

Like the iPad mini. Apple pretty much copied other OEMs and brought a smaller tablet to the market. All they did was slap the :apple: on it, priced $130 more than what's it's worth, called it innovation and amazing, and people bought it. Marketing. Pure marketing. It's fine device, yea, but it isn't worth it's price. Sorry the Apple logo and aluminum doesn't justify the price. Heck it doesn't even have a retina display when the Nexus 7 does and cost LESS!

:p
 
Or they think they're smart because they can 'work' iOS and say they're experts at iOS. "Oh I changed some settings in preferences, I know iOS soooo well!" When in actuality, they're not doing anything special and just Apple tells them to do.

Android is very simple, elegant and well thought out. You can use it as given...or go beyond what Apple allows (yes allows) you to do with your device, and actually tweak it to your likings (not Google's). Or you can go all out and root it.

As Burger King once said, Have it your way. But with Apple it's, Do it our way.

No but really, you're implying that users of iOS are more intelligent because it's more simple and elegant - I think an intelligent person could go both ways. I mean they're smart right? Wow...it's scary the affect iOS and Apple have had on their users. Not saying iOS is bad. But to say what you said is just...ummm...laughable at best. The Reality Distortion Field is strong.

Oh and what would you say about the Apple Maps fiasko? Not so well "thought out" eh? And antenna gate?

:rolleyes:

Regardless of how intelligent you think people are... some people actually like iOS on a phone.

Like the iPad mini. Apple pretty much copied other OEMs and brought a smaller tablet to the market. All they did was slap the :apple: on it, priced $130 more than what's it's worth, called it innovation and amazing, and people bought it. Marketing. Pure marketing. It's fine device, yea, but it isn't worth it's price. Sorry the Apple logo and aluminum doesn't justify the price. Heck it doesn't even have a retina display when the Nexus 7 does and cost LESS!

:p

Some people actually like iOS on a tablet too.

Apple didn't just make a smaller tablet and simply slap the :apple: on it.

What separates an iPad from every other tablet on the market is iOS.

Is an iPad expensive? Considering it's the only tablet running iOS... the market can decide whether it's expensive or not.

As usual... you don't have to buy an iPad. If you just want "a tablet" and you don't care what OS or apps it uses... you can certainly save a few bucks and buy a non-Apple tablet.
 
Half of all US teens have an iPhone? I simply don't believe that. Where did he do the survey - Beverly Hills?

About 15-20% of Americans don't even have health insurance.
 
If you can't figure out why it was posted, you won't understand the content of the link. Don't worry about it.

Im not going to sit there and read an entire wikipedia article if the poster cant be bothered to explain why he posted it. Difficult to understand?

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you were questioning if 5200 teens were enough, wanted to point out that all surveys are based on sampling.

I know there based on sampling, but considering the population of the US, 5200 teens does not seem like a great amount in the scheme of things.
 
I don't see that where I live. I am looking at 30 teenagers right now and I would say 1/4 or less are iPhone. Many have feature phones and iPods though.
 
I know there based on sampling, but considering the population of the US, 5200 teens does not seem like a great amount in the scheme of things.

It's plenty. 30 is plenty. I know you don't like reading, but if you want to understand, that page should be helpful.

Don't get me wrong, the best way to increase the reliability of your data is to increase sample size. But what matters more is how the sample was chosen. 5200 teens randomly selected across the US is more meaningful than 5200 teens selected from Beverly Hills as another poster said.
 
I was just in Asia and the vast majority of people we saw were on the Galaxy Note II. Apple needs to step it up on the innovation curve otherwise I think there's a rocky road ahead.


Asia consist of 48 countries. The Galaxy Note II is made by an Asian company (South Korean), so I wouldn't be shocked if you were in Korea and saw more people with a Samsung phone rather than an Apple phone.

No way in hell do I want a tablet sized phone regardless.
 
Brand loyalty is one of the worst things you can do in life to deny yourself what technology has to offer.

Apple does applaude your myopic vision and taste for products.
You are their target consumer.

I was pointing out the psychology behind branding in the first place, don't be such a blowhard.
 
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