Archer1440
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Unfortunately for your point of view, the white ones are indeed anodized- easily provable with a multitester.
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No, 5086 is cheaper.
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Nearly two weeks later - iPhone 5 nicked all over
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Unfortunately for your point of view, the white ones are indeed anodized- easily provable with a multitester.
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No, 5086 is cheaper.
Right, and it's also what they use on Yachts, High End Bike Frames, and the plaques for the Pioneer Spacecraft (I wonder if the aliens that find it will complain of scuffing...).
Your point?
zorinlynx
macrumors G3
*tosses his black iPhone 5 on its back across a stone table without any care in the world*
I love having a case (Incase Slider). I don't have to worry about any of this bullsheeit.
ALL phones wear down cosmetically. iPhone users tend to be more upset by this, since the phones looks so "pretty" in the first place. But I'm sure all the other phones on the market also scuff and scratch with time as well.
*taps the edge of his phone on the side of the table to the beat of a good song playing*
Ahh yeah, turn it up...
Just get a case if it's such a big deal for you. And the plus side is you can change the look of your phone once in a while to keep it fresh.
I love having a case (Incase Slider). I don't have to worry about any of this bullsheeit.
ALL phones wear down cosmetically. iPhone users tend to be more upset by this, since the phones looks so "pretty" in the first place. But I'm sure all the other phones on the market also scuff and scratch with time as well.
*taps the edge of his phone on the side of the table to the beat of a good song playing*
Ahh yeah, turn it up...
Just get a case if it's such a big deal for you. And the plus side is you can change the look of your phone once in a while to keep it fresh.
Yes and no. Just the advertisng pictures are a warrant the casing is not scratched out of the box.
I think one has to parse the fragility and likelihood of scratches, which is a buying downtic, and an ironic one considering Apple self vaunted build quality narrative; vs the issue of scratches out of the box.
Lets say you were looking at ip5 vs s3. I was so here is what some of my charting was
- worldphone on vZ or sprint: objective ip5 win
- industrial design: subjective iphone 5 win
- build quality rep: subject iPhone 5 win
- resale value at one year: near certain iphone 5 win
- integration with apple ecosystem: win for people on that ecosysterm
- swipe: object s3 win
- scalable ind inexpensive memory: s3 objective win
- readability for a person over 50: slight s3 win
- ubiquity and inexpensive charging options: s3 win
- mkv playback: s3 win
- mapping: s3 win
Now those dont have to be your list, but I would say it probably is mostly representative of a number of people's lists
there is no quesiton that apple emphasizes its industrial design. there is no quesiton that it advertises the look and brand quality of its products as part of the value (its own advertising people have said this is akey emphasis). there is no question that the way the 2 year upgrade subsidies work that for a certain portion of users relative expected resale value at one year is important differentiation from say samsung.
Those values are lessened. That isnt an attack. It is just an objective statement that certain values, that some portion of buyers expect, and expect because apple emphasizes them, are lowered by the scratch susceptibility of the casing.
I bought four expecting to immediately resell two, and did. And the issues with the case didnt tip over two in our family who preferred the iphone. But to say it isnt a rational issue that goes to value is wrong. It is an issue.
again I would say the same thing. Apple advertises its relative build quality and leadership in industrial design. You pay a premium for it and it part of their intentional branding. So, respectfully customers think it is so pretty, because it is intentionally marketed as such. That that specifically touted feature is less important to you is fine, but dont say it is meaningless..
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Sir Ruben
macrumors 68000
impressive. how obsessed are you regarding keeping your device pristine with skins and screen protectors? i ask because i'm very obsessed and i ordered several products.
Either there were marks directly from the box or they have been created by you, by non-careful use of the device.
I got my first iPhone 5 with similar marks. Got a new inside and has had it with keys, dropped it on the floor at home, etc.. No marks.
I got my first iPhone 5 with similar marks. Got a new inside and has had it with keys, dropped it on the floor at home, etc.. No marks.
Lukeyy19
macrumors 6502a
The issue is that the anodised coating shows even the slightest of nicks, if i look very carefully at my iPhone 4 i can see tiny little blemishes along the steel band edge, but due to it not being coated, they are pretty much invisible, I wish they had left the metal uncoated. like on all other apple products, It would match and minor marks would be less visible.
Rocko1
macrumors 68020
Bike frames are made out of 6061-T6, a whole different animal than non-T6, which is what is used on the phone. The T6, heat treated and aged, has more than double the tinsel strength and in turn a much higher hardness.
johndallas999
macrumors 6502a
Scuffs on that table too, maybe you're just a bit rough with your stuff?? 😱
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Man this stinks. I really want an i5 when i'm eligible next month but that's friggin rediculous. What were they thinking?
In the promo Video, all Johnny Ives had to do was say, we designed the new iPhone with extreme attention to detail. The manufacturing process that we're using now has never been achieved before. In fact, we designed the chamfered edge to wear much like a fine watch, a beautiful antique, an old brass camera, or a well worn pair of jeans, so that as you make your iPhone your own, going on adventures together, it develops a beautiful patina, attesting to the incredible durability and longevity of this product. Yes, we even took into account how the iPhone 5 looks as it ages. 🙂
Personally I don't care much about the scuff issue, but I understand that some would be upset to either receive a badly scratched/dinged phone out of the box, or perhaps a bad batch of anodizing. I always use a case. But Apple does market the aesthetics and beauty of the phone. You can't go on and on about super high power cameras that photograph hundreds of glass and aluminum edges to assure a perfect fit, and then ship what must be thousands if not tens of thousands of cosmetically challenged new phones. Can't have it both ways.
This being said, anybody who is upset or returns their otherwise perfect phone because there is a miniscule, pinprick mark on the black coating, is probably being a little ridiculous. Mine had a tiny, tiny mark below the antenna gap on the side, honestly I'm pretty anal and it just didn't bother me at all. I get much more bothered by functional issues. And so far other than a Wi-Fi issue that I appear to have solved, the phone is awfully good.
You know, I'm sure a lot of people returned a perfectly good phone because of a truly tiny mark in the black coating, only to receive a replacement that had actual issues that affected function. Not a good trade in my opinion. Often times you need to pick the lesser of two evils, and recognize that nothing man-made is ever really, truly perfect.
Personally I don't care much about the scuff issue, but I understand that some would be upset to either receive a badly scratched/dinged phone out of the box, or perhaps a bad batch of anodizing. I always use a case. But Apple does market the aesthetics and beauty of the phone. You can't go on and on about super high power cameras that photograph hundreds of glass and aluminum edges to assure a perfect fit, and then ship what must be thousands if not tens of thousands of cosmetically challenged new phones. Can't have it both ways.
This being said, anybody who is upset or returns their otherwise perfect phone because there is a miniscule, pinprick mark on the black coating, is probably being a little ridiculous. Mine had a tiny, tiny mark below the antenna gap on the side, honestly I'm pretty anal and it just didn't bother me at all. I get much more bothered by functional issues. And so far other than a Wi-Fi issue that I appear to have solved, the phone is awfully good.
You know, I'm sure a lot of people returned a perfectly good phone because of a truly tiny mark in the black coating, only to receive a replacement that had actual issues that affected function. Not a good trade in my opinion. Often times you need to pick the lesser of two evils, and recognize that nothing man-made is ever really, truly perfect.
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xraydoc
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If I'm in the building at work or I'm at home, I take the case off. If I'm walking around outside, shopping, etc., I leave the case on.
bitslap47
macrumors 6502a
Rocko1
macrumors 68020
They were thinking, how can we make the most amount of money on the iphone 5? We will use lower grade aluminum, use the cheapest possible anodizing process, fire most of the QC inspectors and if we get any heat use the usual statement, " This is the first we have heard of it".
Hankster
macrumors 68020
I got my i5 on launch day. It has never had a cover and besides being on a desk/table it's in my pant pocket. I use it daily and I have zero scratches or damage to the casing.
Just in two cents. Note that I make sure to only have my i5 in my pocket and nothing else (coins, keys,etc).
Just in two cents. Note that I make sure to only have my i5 in my pocket and nothing else (coins, keys,etc).
Wicked1
macrumors 68040
Do I detect someone's nose getting longer?😛
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So you dress your iPhone for the "occasion"?😱
HeyGreggie
macrumors 65816
Just like intercourse with a pretty lady..
sure it might feel better without it.. but I rather put protection on.
sure it might feel better without it.. but I rather put protection on.
I got mine the day after launch day (white), and have not noticed the issues in normal use. It could probably pass for brand new if it were reboxed. If it's getting scratched up from normal holding (i.e. you aren't dropping it or hitting the edge against a hard surface such as a table), maybe take it in to see if you have a defective anodization. At least get the issue logged now so that when supplies stabilize perhaps you'll have a better chance of getting it addressed.
Oppressed
macrumors 65816
It's better to dare and go bare! We are still talking about phones here right? ;-)
master-ceo
macrumors 65816
VandyChem2009
macrumors 6502a
I think we'd all be a bit happier if we just enjoyed the device instead of worrying about it's resale value. If you are going to worry about that so much juts get a case and leave it in for a year. Besides that if the phone is completely open to the elements it's going to get dinged.