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Nest Debuts New Nest Protect Smoke Detector, Nest Cam Security Camera

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Google-owned Nest today held an event in San Francisco and announced several new products, including an updated Nest Protect smoke detector and the Nest Cam, a new security camera that builds on technology the company acquired from Dropcam.

The second-generation Nest Protect includes a "split spectrum sensor," letting it detect signs of smoke more quickly and allowing it to differentiate between smoke and steam. Rather than being silenced with a wave, false alarms can be turned off using the Nest app. The smoke detector itself is 11 percent smaller than the original version, and it includes a chamber that keeps dust and insects out.

Nest's new Nest Protect will continually test itself to ensure that it's functioning, including testing its alarm when no one is home.


Nest's original Nest Protect smoke detectors had several flaws, including a significant safety issue with the "Nest Wave" feature that let alarms be silenced by waving at them. This feature could be activated in error. Nest pulled the Protect from store shelves for several months because of the problem. The new Nest Protect does not include the Nest Wave feature.

The Nest Cam is a home security device that's similar to the products made by Dropcam, which Nest acquired last year. The Nest Cam includes 1080p video recording at 30 frames per second and it has a 130-degree field of vision with 20-foot infrared night vision. A built-in microphone records sound, a speaker allows for two-way communication, and an 8x zoom feature allows for closer focus on specific areas.


Nest Cam has a new look with a zinc alloy stand that makes it easier to position in a variety of locations, with a built-in tripod mount, magnet, and wall mount included. Nest Cam works with a Nest cloud subscription service called Nest Aware, with pricing that starts at $10 per month.


Nest's app will also be receiving an update, improving interactivity and functionality. For example, if the Nest Protect's smoke or carbon monoxide sensors are activated, the Nest Thermostat will shut off and alert users of the incident. A new temperature feature will also ensure a home does not get too hot or too cold, and if it does, the Thermostat go into override mode to fix the problem. A single app, rolling out today, will control the Nest Thermostat, Nest Protect, and Nest Cam.

Nest Protect is priced at $99, with pre-orders for the device available today. Nest Cam is priced at $199.99 and is available for pre-order today.

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kwikdeth

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yeah i was afraid they would continue the monthly fee garbage. no thanks.
and i really have no use for indoor cameras... would be more interested in a outdoor version.

the search for a functional, online home security suite without fees continues....
anybody got suggestions?
 
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AngerDanger

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I feel like getting the Nest Protect would tempt me to start random fires just to use it. :oops:
 
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the search for a functional, online home security suite without fees continues....
anybody got suggestions?

I've had good luck with kits from Q-See/NiteOwl. The built-in software is ATROCIOUS, but once you get it set up (which is a hassle) it does the job and there are no fees.
 
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ArtOfWarfare

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the search for a functional, online home security suite without fees continues....
anybody got suggestions?

Set one up yourself? Buy the equipment, hook it up to your computer, set up a web server on your computer to access it, and set up port forwarding on your router. Bam, you can access it from anywhere in the world, with your only monthly fee being whatever you pay for your internet connection.

If your IP changes (assume it doesn't... Comcast says mine is dynamic but it hasn't changed in 13 months), you can set up a script to automatically detect when the ip changes and do something about it (IE, you could have it email you the new ip. Or if you own a domain, you could redirect that domain to your new ip with the script.)
 
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The last thing I ever want is a webcam on my home from a company that is owned by Google. Really.
The way they read emails to target you with ads, they can now see what you are doing and send you email ads. I can just see it now, spill something on your pants while eating and two seconds later receiving a email coupon for a dry cleaners down the road.

:p:D:cool::eek::);):rolleyes:
 
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If your IP changes (assume it doesn't... Comcast says mine is dynamic but it hasn't changed in 13 months), you can set up a script to automatically detect when the ip changes and do something about it (IE, you could have it email you the new ip. Or if you own a domain, you could redirect that domain to your new ip with the script.)

I use DynDNS to get around this.
 
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H2SO4

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The last thing I ever want is a webcam on my home from a company that is owned by Google. Really.
Jesus christ, where’s the downvote? Any cloud based storage company would have this capability. Including Apple. If you think Apple don’t monetise you think again.
You are only useful to them as long as you are paying them. Count on that.
 
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bondjw07

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So what exactly is new about this Nest Protect? I have 2 in my house (purchased after the removed the wave feature) and it doesn't look like this is any different.
 
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So what exactly is new about this Nest Protect? I have 2 in my house (purchased after the removed the wave feature) and it doesn't look like this is any different.

"The second-generation Nest Protect includes a "split spectrum sensor," letting it detect signs of smoke more quickly and allowing it to differentiate between smoke and steam. Rather than being silenced with a wave, false alarms can be turned off using the Nest app. The smoke detector itself is 11 percent smaller than the original version, and it includes a chamber that keeps dust and insects out."
 
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Jesus christ, where’s the downvote? Any cloud based storage company would have this capability. Including Apple. If you think Apple don’t monetise you think again.
You are only useful to them as long as you are paying them. Count on that.
They have more and more clear about the fact that they DO NOT DO THAT! Are you just not paying attention or just are you a paid Google shrill? They must have gone out of their way a dozen times to show exactly how they protect our privacy in thier keynote last week. So your angry chastising of the other member is completely without merit.
 
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H2SO4

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They have more and more clear about the fact that they DO NOT DO THAT! Are you just not paying attention or just are you a paid Google shrill? They must have gone out of their way a dozen times to show exactly how they protect our privacy in thier keynote last week. So your angry chastising of the other member is completely without merit.

Apple make use of analytics to see what the market is doing. They DO NOT just rely on what they get from their own users, I can assure you of that, can’t prove it - but take my word for it that they do market research. A lot of market research. Some of those analytics will come from google. Trust me on this.
So what we have is a situation where Apple will be buying info that they know will have come from Google who apparently spy on your every move. How does that hypocrisy sit with you?
If you believe all of those very carefully worded half answers, (which you patently do), then I just don’t know what to tell you.

Apple have a clause in their T’s & C’s that allow them pretty much to do what they want. They refer to sharing your data with their agents and subsidiaries, (amongst other things). Man if you can’t put two and two together……….
 
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mgmusicman94

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Jesus christ, where’s the downvote? Any cloud based storage company would have this capability. Including Apple. If you think Apple don’t monetise you think again.
You are only useful to them as long as you are paying them. Count on that.

Which is why you should buy an IP camera and local storage then set it up so you can connect directly over the internet, bypassing any cloud services.
 
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nagromme

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This could enable some really great things!

That kind of camera, always-on and leveraging the image-recognition used by Google Photos (which knows people by name but also can identify objects) could know who is in each room at all times, and what they are doing. Assuming it has a mic, even conversations could be intelligently leveraged to provide value to the user.

Google could offer you truly useful notifications and automatic actions--to you AND your guests. If it sees you while you're visiting a home in another city, it could offer restaurant recommendations and travel tips. If it sees you leaving underdressed for the weather, it could warn you. If your kids are awake and active longer than they should be, it can log that for you to have a talk with them.

Even ads (which could be opt in) could be useful. For things like sleep aids when you're restless at night, divorce lawyers when domestic arguments increase beyond a certain threshold, or recipes when it sees you exploring the fridge.

It could even make judgements about your economic status and political leanings (even better than Photos alone can do), and profile you (anonymized) to help the right politicians, authors, and TV shows reach your attention.

And you could always opt out, if you want the collected data to be stored and used only in the aggregate, until you decide you want Google to use it for your specific benefit.
 
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Apple make use of analytics to see what the market is doing. They DO NOT just rely on what they get from their own users, I can assure you of that, can’t prove it - but take my word for it that they do market research. A lot of market research. Some of those analytics will come from google. Trust me on this.
So what we have is a situation where Apple will be buying info that they know will have come from Google who apparently spy on your every move. How does that hypocrisy sit with you?
If you believe all of those very carefully worded half answers, (which you patently do), then I just don’t know what to tell you.

Apple have a clause in their T’s & C’s that allow them pretty much to do what they want. They refer to sharing your data with their agents and subsidiaries, (amongst other things). Man if you can’t put two and two together……….
There is a reason Google keeps silent about what they do. Apple very openly breaks out on their website what is tracked for how long and most data is maintained on the the device and encrypted with a key they don't even have now. Downside, don't forget your password because you are on your own.
A recent article on Appleinsider took the time to go through Googles notice and it is down right crazy the amour they track everything you do, and if you are unfortunate enough to have a Google phone it extends to who you call, who you text, and email. Extend that to the free Google voice that they happily transcript your calls and for a fee they will give you a copy of. These are the things you know about. Considering they have been caught and fined more than any other company for violating privacy laws including hacking Safari to continue tracking people who opted out of tracking. They are clearly willing to cross the creepy line they claimed to respect, as long a they don't get caught and called on it.
 
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I've had good luck with kits from Q-See/NiteOwl. The built-in software is ATROCIOUS, but once you get it set up (which is a hassle) it does the job and there are no fees.
Q-See camera's are garbage. Your lucky to get a year without having an issue. Plus there not vandal-proof so anyone with a baseball bat can just go up to it and break it.
 
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H2SO4

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There is a reason Google keeps silent about what they do. Apple very openly breaks out on their website what is tracked for how long and most data is maintained on the the device and encrypted with a key they don't even have now. Downside, don't forget your password because you are on your own.
A recent article on Appleinsider took the time to go through Googles notice and it is down right crazy the amour they track everything you do, and if you are unfortunate enough to have a Google phone it extends to who you call, who you text, and email. Extend that to the free Google voice that they happily transcript your calls and for a fee they will give you a copy of. These are the things you know about. Considering they have been caught and fined more than any other company for violating privacy laws including hacking Safari to continue tracking people who opted out of tracking. They are clearly willing to cross the creepy line they claimed to respect, as long a they don't get caught and called on it.
Seriously, you’ve missed it. Being open means being exactly that. Apple are greasy, how greasy is open to debate but they are most certainly that.
You obviously missed that iPhone location tracking etc, that they did not openly break out the details of?
 
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