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I disagree about 'bling' in the past. The definition of bling has a connotation of 'characterized by vulgar or pretentious display.' While Apple users were often accused of such motivation, I don't think it was for most folks. We saw great design for reasonable prices considering the quality and productivity. I suppose there was a bit of appreciation of the good design, but I'd not call that bling. I suppose it's debatable, but I'd not consider a Porsche bling. I suppose it could be taken that way, depending on the context, but at some point it becomes obvious. IMO, Apple has crossed that line over the last few years.

Bling was probably the wrong word. I just meant their stuff looked great and had substance behind the look, now it's just about looks.
 
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Bling was probably the wrong word. I just meant their stuff looked great and had substance behind the look, now it's just about looks.

Agreed... and I purposely meant bling, with the negative connotations. :) Apple is certainly not as bad as bling gets, but they are pushing the line lately. And, I agree, the substance is sometimes lacking... and the looks aren't even as good IMO, as they are more trendy than great UI design.

Heh, but I guess we're far off-topic from new Nest products by now.
 
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I recommend the Samsung smartcam (or any good IP cam) and Security Spy software running on a Mac (bypassing Samsung's cloud based smartcam software)
Thanks for the recommendation. Googling now…...
Has anybody actually used one of these ‘proprietary’ cameras that claim to only record to their servers and tried to use something like VLC streaming server to access it?
 
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