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Nest has the best Smoke/CO alarms? You mean one of the most expensive?

Per NFPA building code, I am required to have 9 Smoke/COs in my home. Also per NFPA, I am required to replace residential Smoke/COs every 10 years. So 9 Nest Protects at $119 comes to $1071 every 10 years, assuming they don't fail sooner (Nest Protect basic warranty is 2 years.) Or I can replace $9 wired/interconnected Kidde Smoke/Co for $81 every 10 years. I get at least 2 years out of quality Duracell 9v batteries. If I really want remote monitoring/notifications, I can add a Kidde RemoteLync (https://remotelync.kidde.com/monitor/), which monitors the Smoke/CO audible sound and is compatible with any manufacturers smokes built since 1999.

The marks (suckers) who bought into the Nest Protect scam will find out when they try to sell their home and the buyer's home inspector flags all the Nest Protects as expired. Good luck with that.

Hilarious video of NP in action.


I don’t think the Nest alarms are designed to live ten years are they? Six I think.
 
The Yale keyless lock is the only item (besides my HomePod) on my Home app so far. I like having fewer keys on my keyring. I'm looking forward to owning a Tesla Model 3, where my iPhone will be the key.

I like being able to check on the Home app whether the door is currently locked (which I can do from anywhere).

Eventually, I'll have a full suite of home automation devices, but I live in a rented home for now. Automating it doesn't make sense to me yet.

I also like Yale z-wave locks and have been using them for about five years. I run the Indgo home automation software off a dedicated Mac Mini. The nice thing about Indigo is the tremendous flexibility that goes far beyond most other HA systems, and is very robust.
 
Do the people at Nest have a brain? From their spec page:

Operating temperature: 14° to 104°F (–10° to 40°C)

It's going to be -15C in Ottawa on Saturday night, March 17. This means that for all of Canada, large parts of the US mid west and north east, this product will likely not work correctly or reliably.
If companies want people buying outdoor products, make sure they can work reliably to -40, or limit their advertising to Miami and San Diego.
 
wow no homekit in 2018? That is not good news for homekit IMO.
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Do the people at Nest have a brain? From their spec page:

Operating temperature: 14° to 104°F (–10° to 40°C)

It's going to be -15C in Ottawa on Saturday night, March 17. This means that for all of Canada, large parts of the US mid west and north east, this product will likely not work correctly or reliably.
If companies want people buying outdoor products, make sure they can work reliably to -40, or limit their advertising to Miami and San Diego.
Probably would need to be shielded from cold too much for wifi to work reliably or something like heat temps etc.
 
Call me a luddite, but surely the time and money spent researching, buying, fitting and setting up a smart lock will never be recovered by the 'convenience' of what it does!? The old one was never broke!
Future, allowing people into your house for deliveries, like groceries, packages, etc. Records entry, opens door, times them, records exit. Not a fan, however times are changing.
 
How exactly would homekit enhance this product?

You guys are expecting way too much from homekit, same for the rachio iro.

We have Ring already but are considering Nest Hello for a family member that already has an indoor Nest camera. We also prefer the Nest thermostat (we tried the EcoBee3 with Homekit, Siri never understood our commands) and I am excited to see the addition of additional thermostats but as someone else mentioned, its a bit pointless if you cannot control rooms individually. We have forced air heating (and cooling) so to get the coldest room in the house to the desired temperature the entire house's temperature is raised, same for cooling. This will negate any savings, what we really need to do is find a way to get more heat into that room.
 
Look interesting but too expensive. Nest do have best work together with Philips hue lights. I want Nest have HomeKit support but it won’t happen and I need smoke alarm work with Philips hue light so flash when alarm go off because I am Deaf and Nest only company work directly connected to Philips hue and IFTTT have too much delay something serious like smoke alarm.

I hope Nest hello doorbell will work with Philips hue too so light flash when someone by door. Again IFTTT too slow and person leave before I get to door like parcel man. At moment I have portable flash but it pain carry around with me everywhere I go house when I am alone and my family expecting parcel.

Basically Nest only product work with Philips hue light direct connection.

Glad Philips hue do have HomeKit support and I use HomeKit for that.
 



Nest has begun shipping the Hello, a smart doorbell that's capable of streaming 160 degree HD live video from your door directly to your phone.

First announced back in September, the $229 doorbell device can take a photo of a person standing on your doorstep before the bell is even rung, and also supports two-way audio so you can speak with them.

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The doorbell features a 3-megapixel camera with infrared night vision and records 1,600 × 1,200 video at 30 frames per second. The Hello also has a 160-degree field of view, and is 802.11 a/b/g/n Wi-Fi compatible. It stores up to three hours of video out of the box, with additional storage available by taking up a Nest Aware subscription.

In addition to shipping Hello orders via its online store, Nest also announced it is now shipping the $249 Nest x Yale Lock, a tamper-proof deadbolt front door lock with touchpad that connects to the Nest app. The touchpad means owners can give people they trust a passcode instead of a key for entry, and the door it's attached to can be locked and unlocked wirelessly.

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Lastly, Nest also revealed that it is now taking pre-orders for its new wireless external temperature sensors for the Nest Learning Thermostat and Thermostat E. Owners can add up to six of the battery-powered, inch-wide sensors, each of which cost $39, or $99 for a three-pack. Nest also says it plans to bundle its thermostats with the temperature sensors after they officially hit stores in April.

Nest products don't integrate with Apple's HomeKit setup, but are popular competing connected home solutions. See the Nest website for more details.

Article Link: Nest Now Shipping 'Hello' Smart Doorbell With Night-Vision Camera and Two-Way Audio
[doublepost=1521129910][/doublepost]...It's all fun and games till some thug sticks a flat tip screwdriver behind it and freaking pops it off your door frame. Great idea for not so bad neighborhoods yet.... just saying....
 
[doublepost=1521129910][/doublepost]...It's all fun and games till some thug sticks a flat tip screwdriver behind it and freaking pops it off your door frame. Great idea for not so bad neighborhoods yet.... just saying....

As one poster pointed out already, I don't think there's a huge black market for smart doorbells.
 
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Call me a luddite, but surely the time and money spent researching, buying, fitting and setting up a smart lock will never be recovered by the 'convenience' of what it does!? The old one was never broke!
The old reliable deadbolt lock with mettle key has worked fine for centuries. The new tech does not improve the security of the home.
 
Nest has the best Smoke/CO alarms? You mean one of the most expensive?

Per NFPA building code, I am required to have 9 Smoke/COs in my home. Also per NFPA, I am required to replace residential Smoke/COs every 10 years. So 9 Nest Protects at $119 comes to $1071 every 10 years, assuming they don't fail sooner (Nest Protect basic warranty is 2 years.) Or I can replace $9 wired/interconnected Kidde Smoke/Co for $81 every 10 years. I get at least 2 years out of quality Duracell 9v batteries. If I really want remote monitoring/notifications, I can add a Kidde RemoteLync (https://remotelync.kidde.com/monitor/), which monitors the Smoke/CO audible sound and is compatible with any manufacturers smokes built since 1999.

The marks (suckers) who bought into the Nest Protect scam will find out when they try to sell their home and the buyer's home inspector flags all the Nest Protects as expired. Good luck with that.

Hilarious video of NP in action.


I get what you're saying, but if we sell our home, the Nest Protects are coming with us, replaced by cheap alarms.

The other day, my wife was cooking (well, burning) something in the kitchen, and just when I noticed the smell the Nest said, "Smoke detected in the main hallway," then it basically said the alarm would sound if the smoke kept building. I opened the app, and prevented the smoke detector from sounding, then watched as the app told me the smoke was starting to dissipate.

I know it may be too expensive, but that was such a better experience than trying to tear down the old smoke alarm as it blared while also dealing with something burning in the kitchen and the pets going crazy.

The other thing I used to hate with the old smoke detectors was waking up in middle of the night to the sound of the battery warning, then trying to figure out which detector it was (the alert was short and only happened once every 2 minutes).
 
As withy other smart doorbells, Im presuming Nest covers you for theft as long as you report it and get a police statement?

Interested to hear peoples opinions on Nest in general?
We have a Nest Cam but for the price and the features, it appears to one of the weaker security cams out there
 
So wouldn't someone steal that doorbell instead? OR damage it? As for the lock, I never trust these automated/wireless locks. I mean how many things do we want on wifi? We are heading towards a future of everything being hackable from a distance.

I am all for security, but if someone is willing to learn how to develop/put technology in use to hack a lock and enter your home, what is stopping them from throwing a brick through your window to enter?
 
would any normal person connect a house/flat entrance door lock to the internet?
 
I am all for security, but if someone is willing to learn how to develop/put technology in use to hack a lock and enter your home, what is stopping them from throwing a brick through your window to enter?
The worry is the police won't believe you, so your insurance company won't pay to replace whatever was taken. No sign of forced entry? You probably just sold your stuff yourself and are now ineptly trying to defraud your insurance.
 
Do these things need security updates? Like firmware updates for some known hack that keeps you protected? Or does this solely rely that your internet router is strongly password protected and that covers it?
 
Call me a luddite, but surely the time and money spent researching, buying, fitting and setting up a smart lock will never be recovered by the 'convenience' of what it does!? The old one was never broke!
Either you enjoy tech or you don't. I'd advise a Luddite to sell their computers and buy an abacus and a pad of paper and a pencil and be done with it.
 
Do these things need security updates? Like firmware updates for some known hack that keeps you protected? Or does this solely rely that your internet router is strongly password protected and that covers it?

They definitely need to be kept updated. There was a recent wifi vulnerability called Krack that required patching devices like this.
 
Do these things need security updates? Like firmware updates for some known hack that keeps you protected? Or does this solely rely that your internet router is strongly password protected and that covers it?

They definitely need to be kept updated. There was a recent wifi vulnerability called Krack that required patching devices like this.

Nest products are automatically updated on a fairly regular basis. At least my 2nd gen thermostat has been. The app updates are fairly regular as well.
 
Think I'll be sticking with my ring door bell. Can't see an equivalent to the Ring Chime either, anyone know how this works if you are out and your family are at home - how do they hear the door bell?

Skybell HD.
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Nest has the best Smoke/CO alarms? You mean one of the most expensive?

Per NFPA building code, I am required to have 9 Smoke/COs in my home. Also per NFPA, I am required to replace residential Smoke/COs every 10 years. So 9 Nest Protects at $119 comes to $1071 every 10 years, assuming they don't fail sooner (Nest Protect basic warranty is 2 years.) Or I can replace $9 wired/interconnected Kidde Smoke/Co for $81 every 10 years. I get at least 2 years out of quality Duracell 9v batteries. If I really want remote monitoring/notifications, I can add a Kidde RemoteLync (https://remotelync.kidde.com/monitor/), which monitors the Smoke/CO audible sound and is compatible with any manufacturers smokes built since 1999.

The marks (suckers) who bought into the Nest Protect scam will find out when they try to sell their home and the buyer's home inspector flags all the Nest Protects as expired. Good luck with that.

Hilarious video of NP in action.


Except when the Nest Protect detects smoke or CO, it tells the Nest thermostat to shut down the furnace. That is an exceptional feature.
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Yep, I have had a Ring doorbell since launch. They aren't perfect and I've been through two devices due to battery failure, but Ring simply shipped out a replacement on two occasions - no quibble.

Meanwhile, I complained to Nest about my smoke alarm which kept going off and telling me my house was on fire when I was at work (and it wasn't), it took me 6 months to get a replacement device. The only way I got Nest to send the replacement, in the end, was to post a video on YouTube about how crap their product was.





I'm pretty sure Ring replace your doorbell camera if someone steals it.


Another reason to buy Ring. I don't work for them by the way but I have used their doorbell since launch and it just works (until the battery fails and you need it replaced, but they send this out for free)! :D


Had two Ring doorbells. They replaced the first one as I thought it had wifi issues. Replacement had same issue. Their wifi range is crap. Installed a Skybell HD, and it beats Ring by miles.
 
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A smart lock tied to an alarm system or an app is a great security feature. Think about how many people left there door unlock and wondering how the intruder just walked in when they were home or at work....
 
[doublepost=1521129910][/doublepost]...It's all fun and games till some thug sticks a flat tip screwdriver behind it and freaking pops it off your door frame. Great idea for not so bad neighborhoods yet.... just saying....

1. The perp is on camera.
2. Nest, like Ring and Skybell, will replace the doorbell when you provide a filed police report.
3. While a stolen doorbell can't be deactivated, it still has to "call home"...and it can be traced to a new location once reinstalled.
 
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