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This whole viewing over the internet **** has turned full circle.

No one wanted to spend $100 a month on their cable subscription. Now you spend $100 a month on your freaking internet based exactly same type of subscriptions. Netflix, HBO Max, Disney, Apple+ and and and adds up and keeps getting only more expensive.
Exactly. The problem is that all these streaming services are based on a multi year bait and switch business model. Using investment money to subsidize services and grow audience in an unsustainable way.

They're all based on trying to establish a monopoly or duopoly and then extract the living daylights out of the customers.

For the competing firms, that's fun. For the customers, regardless of which service wins, it's a bad deal (since they're all based on the same idea of creating a monopoly, we decide the winner, but the monopoly is the same, either Amazon has it, or Netflix, or Apple.

The investors who gave them 100s of millions knew this from day 1 - that was why they invested the millions in the first place.
 
Netflix increases US prices to pay for $2.5/month in countries like India. It’s economics. We gave up on Netflix way back. Didn’t miss a thing.
Nah. It doesn't cost them anything (except bandwidth) to be in India. No need to subsidize. Content scales infinitely, bandwidth is cheap.

They are applying the same model everywhere in the world. As soon as they can, they'll yank up the price in India, too.

Bait and switch strategy.
 
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Remember when streaming meant you could save money instead of an expensive DirecTV contract? Seems like a long time ago...
Except, it still is. You pick what you want, no contracts, and can cancel any time. I only pick up. Right now I have no active subscriptions because I’ve watched all the shows. When something exciting gets released, I’ll subscribe for a single month.


Better than $100 and a contract, and NO on demand. Lol. TV guide for you buddio.
 
This whole viewing over the internet **** has turned full circle.

No one wanted to spend $100 a month on their cable subscription. Now you spend $100 a month on your freaking internet based exactly same type of subscriptions. Netflix, HBO Max, Disney, Apple+ and and and adds up and keeps getting only more expensive.
What are you talking about? You don’t have a contract for any of these. Once your done with you favorite show, unsubscribe.
 


Netflix today updated the prices for its streaming plans, and all of its offerings are now more expensive. The Basic plan is now priced at $9.99 per month, the Standard plan is priced at $15.49 per month, and the Premium plan is priced at $19.99 per month.

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The Basic plan is $1 more expensive, up from $8.99 per month. This plan allows users to watch on just one screen at a time, and it limits quality to 480p standard definition, with no HD streaming available. The Standard plan is $1.50 more expensive, up from $13.99 per month. It allows for 1080p HD streaming and allows users to watch on two screens at a time.

The highest-end Premium plan is now $2 more expensive per month, up from $17.99. It allows users to watch on four screens at the same time and it is the only plan that provides a 4K HDR streaming option.

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Netflix says that the prices apply immediately to new members and will "gradually take effect" for all current members. Current members will get an email notification 30 days before their price changes and will have the option to change plans or cancel.

Netflix previously raised its prices in October 2020, so it's been a bit over a year since the last significant price jump. As of now, the Premium plan is $4 more expensive than it was in fall 2020.

The Basic Netflix plan is now twice as expensive as the $4.99 per month Apple TV+ subscription, and the Premium plan is four times as expensive. Netflix of course has a lot more to offer than Apple TV+ in terms of content, but it is also more expensive than most other streaming services on the market.

Hulu's basic plan starts at $6.99 per month, for example, and the no ads plan is $12.99 per month. HBO Max is $14.99 per month, Disney+ costs $7.99 per month, and Peacock Premium costs $4.99 per month.

Hulu, Apple TV+, and other services also do not charge for higher quality streaming capabilities, with even the basic plans offering 4K support.

Article Link: Netflix Again Raises Prices for All Plans, 4K Streaming Now $20 Per Month
I wouldn't mind the price hikes if the user-experience improved. Getting new shows and movies is great, but I want more GUI choices, better customization, and the ability to filter out shiite I don't want to see.
 
It's a pretty hefty hike. To negate the increase, it might be worth cancelling for a month or 2, then resubscribing. Watch some other providers for a month...cycle them around?! We tend to get caught up in multiple subscriptions without getting a lot of value.
The problem is, it's a nice feeling having everything at our fingertips. I think they all play on that.
 
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Makes be glad I don't have close to enough bandwidth to stream 4K or even HD in the evenings. Not really, but even if I did have the bandwidth I wouldn't pay N $20 a month.
 
Wondering what is really prompting these raise. Just to increase profit, having to pay local isp’s for bandwidth or other royalties.
 
people do realize $20 is less than a night at the movies for 1 and you get unlimited access to their catalogue and offline downloads for 4 devices? ....

it's a good ****ing deal

and you don't have to subject yourself to the awful crowd of movie goers these days. 77" OLEDs never looked so good
 
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In my experience, Netflix compresses far more aggressively than Apple TV+, Disney+, and HBO Max. The amount of visible compression artifact is actually pretty embarrassing.

At the very least, the Basic tier should get 720p and the Standard tier should get 1080p HDR/Dolby Vision. But I can't think of any other US-based streaming service that charges extra for higher quality streams.
this is a you problem, check your network and devices. netflix is well known for their high quality compression. the industry leader really, they've contributed tons to the open source community as well on their infrastructure.
 
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Netflix is the streaming equivalent of the generic movie section in a video store. Quantity over quality. No thanks.
Netflix didn't have to be this way. They had a number of great tv series that I liked, that ended on cliffhangers and never got a second season. I know Netflix likely has their own internal KPIs for what sort of content to develop, but I wish they could be more like Apple in that regard. Focus on a few things, and spare no expense at developing them.
 
i've actually been watching more and more netflix recently. i laughed so hard, when i was setting up my new tv and it suggested i upgrade to 4k — using this awful side-by-side comparison of how pixilated standard is. it really doesn't look bad at all. of course at this point the price difference isn't all that, but i honestly think standard looks perfectly fine.
 
Wondering what is really prompting these raise. Just to increase profit, having to pay local isp’s for bandwidth or other royalties.
The need to eventually turn a profit, like any other company. They still owe a ton of debt, IIRC. For the amount of content they are churning out, I feel the price is still quite reasonable. The quality on the other hand...?

Which brings me back to my beef with streaming services these days. I haven't been really enthused by much of Disney+ original content of late. TV+ is kinda hit and miss (enjoyed the slew of new content for a while last year, wit 6 new episodes a week, and it has hit a drought for now). Seems like YouTube premium is still worth its weight in gold.
 
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Man if broadcast TV could figure out 4k, I think everyone would just give up the 13 a la carte services and switch back.
Why do you have to have them all at once? I only have one at most but it makes sense to have some. It’s not like it’s even possible to watch everything on every channel at once anyway. Just subscribe to the ones that have what you want
 
The increase is bad enough on its own but even worse is it gives cover to all the other services to raise their rates as well. "Sure we raised them but we're still cheaper than Netflix"
Hulu is the more expensive one. The only difference is it has an ad-supported tier that costs less but the equivalent service to Netflix is 12.99
 
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