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There is no app on the device we are airplaying it to when we don’t control that device, or that device has no outside network access.

What do you mean by “when we don’t control that device”? Why would you be AirPlaying to a device that is outside of your control? Also, how frequently do you encounter AirPlay-compatible equipment that isn’t online? I think you’re grasping at straws.
 
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Cmon..apple tv+ is never going to compete with Netflix

That’s probably right. It’ll take Apple at least 5 years to reach Netflix levels, and I only give Netflix about 5 more years before they go into decline at their current rate of deficit spending, sluggish subscriber growth, and most third party content pulled back after the Fall launches of Disney, Warner Bros., and Universals streaming channels, to say nothing of CBS All Access, and smaller ventures. Between them they account for the majority of the TV and film catalogues and a large part of Netflix’ value to consumers. Netflix purchase of FRIENDS for one year at a million dollars an episode highlights the importance of the content they’re losing and the outrageous way they’re spending their borrowed money.
 
Sounds like Netflix is not playing nice here. Reminds me of when the Amazon Prime Video app for Apple TV took forever to be released.
 
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The Netflix app for iPhone and iPad no longer appears to support AirPlay, based on an updated support document found on the Netflix website.

According to Netflix, AirPlay is no longer supported on iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch due to "technical limitations." There are no details from Netflix on what those technical limitations might be.

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Several MacRumors readers have attempted to use AirPlay with the Netflix app over the course of the last few days and have run into issues doing so from the Netflix app.

AirPlay can still be initiated using the Control Center on an iOS device, but when attempting to test the feature, we were unable to get Netflix content to play and received an error message.

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It's not clear why AirPlay support has been removed from the Netflix app. The feature has been available since 2013 and it was working up until this week.

Netflix apps are available on the Apple TV, consoles, smart TVs, iOS devices, and more, so there's not a real need to use AirPlay to watch Netflix content, but there were instances where it was convenient to use.

Netflix has in recent months been making efforts to better protect its content. In December, Netflix stopped allowing customers to sign up for Netflix within the iOS app, and Netflix has never opted to participate in Apple's TV app, making it unavailable in the "Up Next" feature of Watch Now.

Netflix CEO Reed Hastings recently confirmed that Netflix had no plans to be a part of Apple's TV plans and said that Netflix isn't interested in offering its content in alternate ways. "We want to have people watch our shows on our services," he said.

Update: A Netflix spokesperson provided further explanation on the company's decision to discontinue support for AirPlay on iOS devices, attributing it to the rollout of AirPlay support on third party devices and an inability to distinguish between them:

"We want to make sure our members have a great Netflix experience on any device they use. With AirPlay support rolling out to third-party devices, there isn't a way for us to distinguish between devices (what is an Apple TV vs. what isn't) or certify these experiences. Therefore, we have decided to discontinue Netflix AirPlay support to ensure our standard of quality for viewing is being met. Members can continue to access Netflix on the built-in app across Apple TV and other devices."

Article Link: Netflix App for iOS No Longer Supports AirPlay Because of 'Technical Limitations' [Updated With Netflix Statement]
[doublepost=1554597927][/doublepost]with rising prices, and now this, it seems that they are really determined to lose customers. Not even sure why I still pay for this service, other then the few shows I watch. Started amazon prime for a bit, if Apple TV plus works out, I will def drop Netflix, its constant with them. I remember when I signed up for about 5 bucks a month, it is now 13.00 for me now.
 
I've noticed over the last 5 years that Apple is limiting how third-party hardware can access their ecosystem. Example; My Sony SRS-X77 WiFi/Bluetooth speaker will not work with Airplay2 but it did with Airplay. There are other examples that show how Apple restricts users from performing once simple photo transfers between an iPad and your OSX Photo app.

There is a huge global content "war" going between Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Netflix, Alibaba, etc. Their mission is to restrict content unless licensed and that even includes your household content. Remember to also store all of your content locally outside of any app specific format.

No, all the Netflix Marvel shows were rated 17-Mature and Disney have said their shows go no higher than PG-13 so those (now Disney owned) shows had to go away when they unvailed their own service.
disney also stated they plan to release more mature content on Hulu
 
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Man, the cable companies must be KICKING themselves for not giving the customers what they wanted; the ability to watch shows on their own schedule.

I understand that advertising money and licensing dictated all those decisions, but they really should have seen the writing on the walls and been more proactive about acquiescing to their customers demands rather than sticking around in the 1970s.

Lol huh? On Demand has been offered for, what, fifteen years now? Not to mention the ability to record something and watch it whenever.
 
Not sure why one would need this anyway.. if you have an apple tv to airplay to, you might as well use the netflix app on it.
If you have a tv with integrated airplay, it is new and definitely has netflix on it.

When you're traveling often hotels or places you stay have an apple tv on the TV. Since you don't want to login with your credentials on some random device you simply airplay your Netflix from your phone to that TV.
 
What do you mean by “when we don’t control that device”? Why would you be AirPlaying to a device that is outside of your control? Also, how frequently do you encounter AirPlay-compatible equipment that isn’t online? I think you’re grasping at straws.

Because the device is in our offices and belongs to my employer. Or the device is in a hotel. Or the device is in a conference room. Or the device is at my friend’s house.

Just to name a few situations. The office and hotel ones actually apply to me.
 
”We want to make sure our members have a great Netflix experience on any device they use. With AirPlay support rolling out to third-party devices, there isn't a way for us to distinguish between devices (what is an Apple TV vs. what isn't) or certify these experiences. Therefore, we have decided to discontinue Netflix AirPlay support to ensure our standard of quality for viewing is being met. Members can continue to access Netflix on the built-in app across Apple TV and other devices."

Simply a lie.
 
I don't know about your taste of content but Netflix owns quite a few that I like. Stranger Things, The OA, Arrested Development....

Arrested Development is not opened by Netflix, it’s licensed from Fox, which is now Disney, which is launching their own streaming network to directly compete with, and likely surpass Netflix this Fall. Netflix may have a deal, but it will come to an end soon, and when it does, Disney is not likely to renew it. As for Stranger Things and The OA, not a lot of episodes to carry an entire network in debt as they are. They do have some excellent original content, but unfortunately not the volume to really carry the network without the third party catalogue material they rely on, which they will soon lose.

When you're traveling often hotels or places you stay have an apple tv on the TV. Since you don't want to login with your credentials on some random device you simply airplay your Netflix from your phone to that TV.

Evidently they haven’t eliminated Chromecast, so that’s still an option where available. On the other hand, a friend of mine picked up a cheap fire stick specifically to get Netflix on hotel TVs which supported neither protocol. That’s likely the best option for someone who isn’t prone to forgetting items in their hotel rooms when they check out.
 
cancelled my subscription a month ago. nothing to do with airplay
better value with amazon [and It's free]

content seems to be swinging towards self-produced movies starring people I never heard of
 
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Well, un-limit it!!! This is how I stream everything. Guess I'll have to use the crappy Apple TV app for Netflix now. losers.

As it sounds like you’ve been doing this for quite some time, which TVs have you been AirPlaying Netflix, or any other streaming TV service, directly into from your iPhone/iPad?
 
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They let you connect your device to their AppleTV via AirPlay, but won’t let you install an app that doesn’t require allowing access to a stranger’s device?
Right. Most businesses or even hotels don’t give employees access to download apps to their Apple TVs. Connecting via Bluetooth is requires no password
 
Hear, hear, a blank screen is now the "standard of quality for viewing"...
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Why would anyone use Airplay to watch Netflix? Not being snarky. Honestly curious. Seems weird.

e.g. a watch-out with family, where everyone takes turns throwing their favourite stuff onto the screen
 
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Right. Most businesses or even hotels don’t give employees access to download apps to their Apple TVs. Connecting via Bluetooth is requires no password

I think this is what a lot of the doubters in this thread don't understand - you don't even need to be on the same network to AirPlay. It's been handy at hotels.

The other reason people are so grouchy is that Netflix is framing this as a technical limitation and that's most likely bs. If Netflix said, "We disabled AirPlay because we don't want people using it" or "We disabled AirPlay because it doesn't allow us to see what kind of destination device you're using," we'd at least acknowledge that that's their call. Instead, painting it as a customer experience issue grinds the gears of anyone who has had to develop or manage anything technical.
 
Arrested Development is not opened by Netflix, it’s licensed from Fox, which is now Disney, which is launching their own streaming network to directly compete with, and likely surpass Netflix this Fall. Netflix may have a deal, but it will come to an end soon, and when it does, Disney is not likely to renew it. As for Stranger Things and The OA, not a lot of episodes to carry an entire network in debt as they are. They do have some excellent original content, but unfortunately not the volume to really carry the network without the third party catalogue material they rely on, which they will soon lose.

Here is the thing though, even if let's say Netflix looses content because the content owners decided to open a streaming media service, people will be a lot more willing to pay because they are aware of the content they are getting. People don't tend to subscribe to things they don't know how well it is, like Apple going into the media business. We HEAR all this stuff they might have but have no clue if it is worth it at all and even if it is, they will be so low on content most people will see everything they have exclusive before the trial if there is one wears out and cancel. When people are paying, cable, Netflix, hulu, (Disney when they launch theirs for the kids and the Marvel fans and possibly possibly.... CBS All Access), spotify or Apple music, its going to be hard to get them to add ANOTHER subscription. Plus Spotify right now has Hulu included if you sign up or are already on their lowest sub.

Look I don't have any problem with Apple trying this and will be happy if it succeeds and probably end up spending money on the sub but logically and realistically I don't think it will be a success and will end up harming Apple in the long run.
 
Here is the thing though, even if let's say Netflix looses content because the content owners decided to open a streaming media service, people will be a lot more willing to pay because they are aware of the content they are getting. People don't tend to subscribe to things they don't know how well it is, like Apple going into the media business. We HEAR all this stuff they might have but have no clue if it is worth it at all and even if it is, they will be so low on content most people will see everything they have exclusive before the trial if there is one wears out and cancel. When people are paying, cable, Netflix, hulu, (Disney when they launch theirs for the kids and the Marvel fans and possibly possibly.... CBS All Access), spotify or Apple music, its going to be hard to get them to add ANOTHER subscription. Plus Spotify right now has Hulu included if you sign up or are already on their lowest sub.

Look I don't have any problem with Apple trying this and will be happy if it succeeds and probably end up spending money on the sub but logically and realistically I don't think it will be a success and will end up harming Apple in the long run.

Your entire concern is eliminated by a one month free trial, which, judging by apple news plus, is what will happen.
 
While many AppleTV+ shows do sound very appealing, there’s the community factor to consider. When all your friends are talking about Stranger Things, Black Mirror and Russian Doll, those without Netflix will feel left out.

That said, with a billion plus devices and a confirmed worldwide launch, I think that AppleTV+ will get wide adoption. Apple is going to price this service to sell. They don’t need to make money on it now, just build a loyal subscriber base.

I already cancelled my Netflix account but I’ll reactivate on occasion to binge on Stranger Things and Black Mirror when they come back.

To be honest those shows you mentioned aren’t watched by most of my friends. I guess being busy adults they don’t watch much tv, we work, go out a lot and travel when we can.

I just read Netflix updated statement which actually isn’t true either. You can differentiate between airplay devices on the network, by the device name and the icon. Apple TV literally says just that, you can also rename it to living room, bedroom or whatever you want. In addition to that it shows an icon of the type of device. As soon as Apple TV plus is launched I’m axing Netflix. I won’t give my money to those liars much longer.
 
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This is fine.. I already stopped using Netflix a long time ago when they stopped subscriptions via ITunes.
 
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