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Technical limitations my derrière!

AKA unnecessary dick move by Netflix :)
“For best experience we will cancel Airplay on Apple devices but carry on using Chromecast, and so on, on all the other platforms, no problem.”
 
Their excuse is crap, apple certifies all AirPlay devices. Meaning they will have the same experience on an Apple TV as any other device that official supports AirPlay. This really doesn’t make since, because all those new devices will most likely have a native Netflix app built in.
While I don’t care too much as I never AirPlay long movies or shows from my phone to a device, it would be nice to do this in hotels when traveling so that I can use my own account.
 
Their excuse is crap, apple certifies all AirPlay devices. Meaning they will have the same experience on an Apple TV as any other device that official supports AirPlay. This really doesn’t make since, because all those new devices will most likely have a native Netflix app built in.
While I don’t care too much as I never AirPlay long movies or shows from my phone to a device, it would be nice to do this in hotels when traveling so that I can use my own account.
Maybe Netflix is concerned tv manufacturers will stop including their app and just rely on chrome cast and airplay instead. (Very unlikely scenario of course). Or they’re just dicks.
 
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Not sure why one would need this anyway.. if you have an apple tv to airplay to, you might as well use the netflix app on it.
If you have a tv with integrated airplay, it is new and definitely has netflix on it.

Why would anyone use Airplay to watch Netflix? Not being snarky. Honestly curious. Seems weird.

For me I just find it easier to use my phone. My husband does too. The Apple remote is just too damn cumbersome to use sometimes and by using our phones, each of us doesn’t have to hunt for the remote. If we decide to stop watching on the TV, we can easily pause and pick right up in another room on our phones.

Additionally we have found the app experience on the Apple TV very inconsistent. First off the apps aren’t updated as often there and are often broken in some way. But secondly they all behave differently here and there. Whereas the phone apps just seem to not have these issues and are more consistent in user interface. It’s just easier to pick something with your finger than grabbing a remote, moving a cursor to an item and then clicking on it. Same with rewind or FF.
 
Black Mirror is excellent and worth checking out.... (Think "Twilight Zone" except based on a future where technology's potential dark side shows.)

But that said? It's made in the U.K. and really should be possible to obtain without Netflix.


To be honest those shows you mentioned aren’t watched by most of my friends. I guess being busy adults they don’t watch much tv, we work, go out a lot and travel when we can.

I just read Netflix updated statement which actually isn’t true either. You can differentiate between airplay devices on the network, by the device name and the icon. Apple TV literally says just that, you can also rename it to living room, bedroom or whatever you want. In addition to that it shows an icon of the type of device. As soon as Apple TV plus is launched I’m axing Netflix. I won’t give my money to those liars much longer.
[doublepost=1554607225][/doublepost]Can't say for sure, but I *bet* the real reason for this has to do with piracy of Netflix shows?
Theoretically, you could stream Netflix to "Airplay" - where the destination was just supporting the protocol to capture the decrypted audio and video stream to save it to disk?

Their excuse is crap, apple certifies all AirPlay devices. Meaning they will have the same experience on an Apple TV as any other device that official supports AirPlay. This really doesn’t make since, because all those new devices will most likely have a native Netflix app built in.
While I don’t care too much as I never AirPlay long movies or shows from my phone to a device, it would be nice to do this in hotels when traveling so that I can use my own account.
 
I only have Netflix for Better Call Saul and Brooklyn 99. They’ve gotten rid of so many movies, and now that they’re acting in such a petty way to smite Apple but also customers, I’m not sure how much longer I’ll remain one.

You can watch all of Brooklyn 99 on Hulu including the current season. That doesn’t help with Better Call Saul though.
 
They know you won’t. Netflix is like that smoking hot chick that’s into you, but she is totally ******* crazy at the same time.

The video streaming has become 100% commoditized. The barrier of entry is comically low, content holders are launching their own platforms, and Netflix original content is limited and stale.

People said the same thing about Apple Music and it just took the US market.
 
Because the device is in our offices and belongs to my employer. Or the device is in a hotel. Or the device is in a conference room. Or the device is at my friend’s house.

Just to name a few situations. The office and hotel ones actually apply to me.

I guess I just don’t understand the problem. Any Apple TV I’ve seen in a hotel includes the remote and I’ve had control over that Apple TV with said remote. No, I don’t sign into my Apple account on the hotel’s Apple TV, but I will sign into my Netflix account and be sure to sign out before I leave. Maybe I’ve just gotten lucky because the Netflix app has already been installed on every Apple TV I’ve used in a hotel — granted, there haven’t been many.

As far as the employer goes, if an employer doesn’t allow the Netflix app to be installed on their Apple TV, maybe they don’t want their employees watching Netflix at work? I can think of exactly zero instances when I’ve needed to stream Netflix to my employer’s Apple TV. Maybe I’m in the wrong line of work.

Once again, if people don’t like this change, they should vote with their wallet. The bottom line is that Netflix owns their app and they can do with it as they choose.
 
I guess I just don’t understand the problem. Any Apple TV I’ve seen in a hotel includes the remote and I’ve had control over that Apple TV with said remote. No, I don’t sign into my Apple account on the hotel’s Apple TV, but I will sign into my Netflix account and be sure to sign out before I leave. Maybe I’ve just gotten lucky because the Netflix app has already been installed on every Apple TV I’ve used in a hotel — granted, there haven’t been many.

As far as the employer goes, if an employer doesn’t allow the Netflix app to be installed on their Apple TV, maybe they don’t want their employees watching Netflix at work? I can think of exactly zero instances when I’ve needed to stream Netflix to my employer’s Apple TV. Maybe I’m in the wrong line of work.

Once again, if people don’t like this change, they should vote with their wallet. The bottom line is that Netflix owns their app and they can do with it as they choose.

Not sure why you feel the need to point out that you don’t have the same problems as some of us, but as long as you are just saying stuff:

1) “I guess i just don’t understand the problem” - the Apple TV may not have Netflix installed. I may not want to enter my Netflix credentials into someone else’s Apple TV. And, most importantly, nearly every tv manufacturer has just announced support for airplay, without using Apple TVs. These TVs may support airplay and not have the Netflix app on them. This isn’t just about apple tv’s.

2) “as far as the employer goes...” - there are legitimate reasons for showing clips from Netflix at work. I don’t even know why I should bother explaining them, but perhaps you can use your imagination and consider that people have all sorts of different jobs, and, occasionally, people also do social things in the office because they spend so much time there.

3) there is another set of situations where airplay makes the only sense. For example, people have already explained they have apple tv’s setup in vacation homes and cabins where they don’t have internet access, but do have LTE for their phones or iPads. One time we had an internet outage for 2 days at our house, and we used an iPad airplaying to the tv for entertainment. Etc.

The thing where people feel the need to chime in with “your problems aren’t real because I, personally, don’t experience them” is a cancer on the internet.
 
When Apple inks a deal for all the Star Treks I will say goodbye to Netflix and never look back.

There’s nothing on Netflix that I cannot do without after Star Trek.

Just get Hulu. All Star Trek plus a metric ass-ton of other TV shows.
 
Those are a joke compared to the content owned by companies like Disney.
Look I like both the content on Disney and the shows I mentioned... That's not what keeps me with Netflix I tend to watch serialized tv shows and they have seasons of content from the show all available. And believe me, when you have kids, Netflix can be a Miracle on trips. I'm just saying Apple doesn't have the already KNOWN content that people are still decisive about buying a subscription even today.
 
Look I like both the content on Disney and the shows I mentioned... That's not what keeps me with Netflix I tend to watch serialized tv shows and they have seasons of content from the show all available. And believe me, when you have kids, Netflix can be a Miracle on trips. I'm just saying Apple doesn't have the already KNOWN content that people are still decisive about buying a subscription even today.
The scary thing for Netflix is that Apple could literally buy any content they want. They have virtually unlimited money. Netflix doesn’t. Btw, Arrested development was originally a Fox show and I think is still licensed by Netflix, meaning Disney now owns it.
 
To be honest those shows you mentioned aren’t watched by most of my friends. I guess being busy adults they don’t watch much tv, we work, go out a lot and travel when we can.

I just read Netflix updated statement which actually isn’t true either. You can differentiate between airplay devices on the network, by the device name and the icon. Apple TV literally says just that, you can also rename it to living room, bedroom or whatever you want. In addition to that it shows an icon of the type of device. As soon as Apple TV plus is launched I’m axing Netflix. I won’t give my money to those liars much longer.
Ok I'm going to bite since I've been sitting at a hospital all day with my father and am in a mood...
Don't try to demine me with the I'm an adult and work and don't have time to watch line.
Your actually an adult when you are busy and work, go out and travel when you can. Especially when you are married, have a wife and two kids, like me, and still be able to actually manage our time to sit down and relax and watch what we want. Second, what does your friends have anything to do with what you watch. If it's not tagged on your friends facebook, you don't watch it?
 
The problem is economical. They are about to launch a mobile only plan, aka, a castrated version of Netflix. To make sure customers who subscribed to the castration with their wallet stay castrated, they have to kill AirPlay as the Apple just made AirPlay 2 available for 3rd party boxes. The cost of having AirPlay just went down significantly, and Netflix will need to have a way to upsell the newly premium branded standard version with a premium price somehow. So, AirPlay supper needed to go. It’s not technical. It’s business.
 
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This plus many other recent things Netflix has done = I’m now done with Netflix even further and have even uninstalled the app. In the UK, we now get a great selection of content choice through the TV app from all the main terrestrial broadcasters + NOW TV for sky sports, I actual feel for once the licence fee is starting to seem value for money - along with their cooperation with the apple to make the content easily available and searchable on modern devices + advert free content on BBC and ITV (latter costs a couple of quid extra a month). Why would anyone bother with Netflix now, their content has gone downhill anyway. For anything else there is iTunes and amazon (grand tour is great).

Once I signed up to the appleTV “what to watch this week” newsletter and the BBC iPlayer newsletter as well, I was surprised how much good content was available without Netflix.
 
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The problem is economical. They are about to launch a mobile only plan, aka, a castrated version of Netflix. To make sure customers who subscribed to the castration with their wallet stay castrated, they have to kill AirPlay as the Apple just made AirPlay 2 available for 3rd party boxes. The cost of having AirPlay just went down significantly, and Netflix will need to have a way to upsell the newly premium branded standard version with a premium price somehow. So, AirPlay supper needed to go. It’s not technical. It’s business.
They could easily allow airplay for the regular subscribers and disallow it for those with mobile device subs only. That would not be difficult. I don't buy your guessplanation.
 
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First time I noticed no Airplay with Netflix App, June of 2018. Called them, after some dancing around they admitted that it will not work with Airplay. Asked if they planned on fixing, not broken a feature.

We travel and where we travel limited to poor internet and LTE. Need the ability to download shows to the iPad or whatever. They need to understand, not everyone has access to highspeed internet. Most have some access so downloading during the night, that may take several hours a good option. Then stream on Airplay. Good news Amazon allows Airplay at least for now. Cancelled Netflix.

Exactly.

In Europe you may get a few Gb plan on cellular. In other countries, like India, the cellular infrastructure crawls on top of that.

A viable option is to use Infuse to store the movies on an iPhone or iPad, and also airplay to Apple TV...
 
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Feature is not needed anyway. Netflix is on everything and remembers exactly where you were in a show.
 
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If you want to make sure your members have a great Netflix experience on any device they use then enable AirPlay!

Netflix you’ve just revealed your true colours. (UK English, the original). More concerned about user tracking than making technology easier to use.
 
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